BCS 2013 Discussion - One...more...year...to...go...

[ljbab728]

So for the Top 25 this week so far...

Winners:
#4 tOSU 34 Iowa 24
#10 Miami 27 NC 23
#14 Mizzou 36 #22 Florida 17
#16 TTU 37 WVU 27
#18 OU 34 KU 19
#23 NIU 38 CMU 17
#21 OKST 24 TCU 10

Losers:
#7 TAMU lost to #24 Auburn 45-41
#8 UL fell to UCF
#9 UCLA lost to #13 Stanford 24-10
#11 South Carolina lost to Tennessee 23-21
#20 Wash lost to ASU 53-24

Don't forget LSU losing to Ole Miss. It will be interesting to see how many of those 2 and 3 loss SEC teams they try to keep high in the ratings over undefeated or one loss teams. Also 3rd ranked Clemson is going down in flames to FSU.

[ThomPaine]

Don't forget LSU losing to Ole Miss. It will be interesting to see how many of those 2 and 3 loss SEC teams they try to keep high in the ratings.

Yup. Some folks would just take the SEC rankings as #1-14, and start with Oregon at 15 and Ohio State at 16...

After today, I'm thinking Alabama, Oregon and FSU are all on the same level, then there is a slight step down with Ohio State and maybe Missouri and Baylor. After that, it's a crap shoot.

[venture]

I don't really see it as a slight step down for tOSU. They have been playing close to just about everyone.

[bluedogok]

Kind of interesting how many of the pundits though the Big 12 escapees A&M and Mizzou were going to be nothing but door mats in the SEC. It shows the Big 12 wasn't as bad as they thought (back then)...of course this season, the conference is bad.

[zookeeper]

During the game today they were talking about how Baylor is one of THE teams to watch over the next few years. You think about it, it's very impressive to compete in the state of Texas from Waco. But they said they have some incredible new facilities being built, a new state-of-the-art stadium, and some top recruiting classes in Football and Men's and Women's Basketball. Set up to be a conference power if not a national player in the coming years.

[venture]

Projected BCS rankings are looking really interesting so far. The official rankings will be out later today.

BCS STANDINGS
BCS RANK	TEAM	BCS AVG	HARRIS VOTES	HARRIS PCT	COACHES VOTES	COACHES PCT	SAGARIN	COLLEY	A-H	BILLINGSLEY	MASSEY	WOLFE	CPU AVG
1	Alabama	0.9842	2589	0.9958	1545	0.9968	2	3	1	1	3	-	2
2	Florida State	0.9336	2428	0.9338	1406	0.9071	1	2	3	4	1	-	2
3	Oregon	0.9333	2501	0.9619	1485	0.9581	4	4	4	2	4	-	4
4	Ohio State	0.8497	2280	0.8769	1352	0.8723	8	5	7	3	6	-	6
5	Missouri	0.8114	2041	0.785	1089	0.7026	3	1	2	6	2	-	2.3333
6	Baylor	0.7514	2172	0.8354	1269	0.8187	14	11	8	10	12	-	11
7	Stanford	0.7441	1930	0.7423	1152	0.7432	15	6	9	5	7	-	7.3333
8	Miami (Fla.)	0.7359	2145	0.825	1234	0.7961	12	12	10	20	10	-	11.3333
9	Clemson	0.6695	1550	0.5962	1011	0.6523	13	8	5	8	5	-	7
10	Texas Tech	0.5931	1760	0.6769	882	0.569	10	10	14	14	15	-	12.6667
11	Auburn	0.4941	750	0.2885	817	0.5271	9	7	11	18	8	-	9.3333
12	LSU	0.4893	1454	0.5592	685	0.4419	19	17	13	9	13	-	14.3333
13	UCLA	0.4874	1259	0.4842	586	0.3781	11	19	6	13	9	-	11
14	Oklahoma	0.4695	1185	0.4558	836	0.5394	20	15	12	7	20	-	15.6667
15	Texas A&M	0.4224	1459	0.5612	743	0.4794	22	22	20	19	16	-	20.3333

Others of interest...Oklahoma State is #19, Texas #34, TCU is 52, West Virginia is 62, KSU is 79, Kansas is 88, ISU is 101.

[venture]

More polls are coming in before the first official poll...

OU is now projected up to #12. OSU up to 19th.

[OKCRT]

More polls are coming in before the first official poll...

OU is now projected up to #12. OSU up to 19th.

Don't know if anyone here has watched Mizzou this season. They are a complete team. That defensive line is the best I have seen from any unit this year,3 potential NFLers. They are relentless. Their WRs are all huge and fast. They have 3 RBs that rotate in and out and all are fast as hell. This is a complete team. look at the turnovers the secondary has. I think it's tops in the nation. I just don't see a lot of weaknesses on that team. Now they bring in their backup QB and he passes for 300 yards on prob. the best defense in college football. They have it going on. It was a huge mistake by the Big XII letting Texas bully and run the conference. Look at the 4 teams that left. A&M-Mizzou-NU are all ranked with only 3 losses between them. Now look what the BigXII brought in. TCU & WVU. What a massive mistake and I seriously believe that the BigXII will not be around in a few years. Texas kiiled the old swc and it appears to me they have done it again with the BigXII. They should have been treated no better than ISU or KSU from the start and none of this would have happened.

As far as rankings go. If OU-Baylor-OSU played in the sec I seriously doubt that they would even be ranked. I watch as many games as possible and the level of play between the BigXII & sec is night and day. The sec is just so much better and it's so easy to see when watching these teams. And I am an old Big 8 Big XII guy.

[bluedogok]

In years past the SEC wasn't that much better than the Big 12, this year they are better but not as good as they have been in years past. Even Bama doesn't look as much like Bama has in previous seasons. A few years ago when the Big 12 had the offenses rolling there wasn't that much of a discrepancy, now that the SEC has some good QB play we have all seen the defenses struggle in comparison to the teams a few years ago.

In some ways I still wish the jump to the Pac 12 would have happened even though I would have preferred going to the SEC. If for anything just to dilute the power of Texas and put them back into a SWC situation again. They feel they have to rule everything much to the detriment of their "partners". I still prefer the old Big 8.

[venture]

Here are the first official rankings for the BCS this season...OU came in lower than earlier projections.

BCS		Harris Poll			USA Today			Computer Rankings
RK	TEAM	AVG	PVS	RK	PTS	%	RK	PTS	%	AVG	A&H	RB	CM	KM	JS	PW	%
1	Alabama	.9841	2	1	2615	.9962	1	1544	.9961	2	2	1	3	3	2	1	.960
2	Florida State	.9348	12	3	2401	.9147	3	1410	.9097	1	1	5	2	1	1	2	.980
3	Oregon	.9320	4	2	2520	.9600	2	1482	.9561	4	4	2	4	4	4	4	.880
4	Ohio State	.8553	NR	4	2321	.8842	4	1382	.8916	5	5	3	5	8	8	7	.790
5	Missouri	.8219	NR	6	2026	.7718	7	1184	.7639	3	3	6	1	2	3	3	.930
6	Stanford	.7414	6	8	1952	.7436	8	1117	.7206	6	6	4	6	6	15	10	.760
7	Miami (FL)	.7200	NR	7	2008	.7650	6	1186	.7652	10	8	21	12	9	12	8	.630
8	Baylor	.7120	NR	5	2038	.7764	5	1255	.8097	12	9	11	11	15	14	13	.550
9	Clemson	.6249	14	10	1616	.6156	10	913	.5890	9	10	7	8	10	13	9	.670
10	Texas Tech	.6220	NR	9	1662	.6331	9	981	.6329	11	11	14	10	12	10	11	.600
11	Auburn	.5058	NR	15	1105	.4210	17	537	.3465	7	7	17	7	5	9	6	.750
12	UCLA	.4807	17	11	1323	.5040	11	710	.4581	14	15	16	19	13	11	12	.480
13	LSU	.4552	8	12	1212	.4617	13	688	.4439	15	14	9	17	11	19	16	.460
14	Virginia Tech	.4408	NR	19	841	.3204	19	499	.3219	8	13	NR	9	7	7	5	.680
15	Oklahoma	.4204	11	14	1110	.4229	12	695	.4484	16	12	8	15	19	20	19	.390
16	Texas A&M	.3666	9	13	1177	.4484	15	622	.4013	18	22	18	22	16	22	17	.250
17	Fresno State	.3379	NR	18	920	.3505	18	532	.3432	17	16	NR	14	NR	16	14	.320
18	Northern Illinois	.3032	15	21	518	.1973	22	298	.1923	13	19	10	13	14	5	15	.520
19	Oklahoma State	.2687	NR	17	951	.3623	13	688	.4439	28	25	NR	NR	NR	NR	NR	.000
20	Louisville	.2556	21	16	1046	.3985	16	571	.3684	28	NR	15	NR	NR	NR	NR	.000
21	South Carolina	.2161	10	20	673	.2564	20	468	.3019	26	24	19	NR	22	NR	23	.090
22	Michigan	.1637	18	22	415	.1581	23	268	.1729	21	17	20	16	NR	NR	25	.160
23	UCF	.1394	NR	25	238	.0907	25	151	.0974	19	23	13	23	NR	17	18	.230
24	Nebraska	.1354	16	23	414	.1577	21	385	.2484	28	NR	NR	NR	NR	NR	NR	.000
25	Oregon State	.1042	13	NR	168	.0640	NR	91	.0587	20	NR	22	24	18	6	21	.190

[ljbab728]

Other than the championship game this is a very unappealing scenario.

Big 12 football: Expect a downer of a Fiesta Bowl | News OK

[venture]

I love seeing the "mid majors" break into the BCS, but I was disappointed last season by NIU.

[ThomPaine]

Other than the championship game this is a very unappealing scenario.

Big 12 football: Expect a downer of a Fiesta Bowl | News OK

Blech. Any time you get a major traditional power against an upstart, the upstart has "nothing to lose" and the power has little to gain. The Oklahoma - Boise State comes to mind, and even though I consider that one of my all-time favorite games, OU was in a tough spot. The Big 12 is in trouble as far as national perception.

[venture]

I can't recall a bow bid being accepted in October before. LOL

BYU accepts Fight Hunger Bowl bid - CBSSports.com

[OKCisOK4me]

I can't recall a bow bid being accepted in October before. LOL

BYU accepts Fight Hunger Bowl bid - CBSSports.com

Well, at least they have their good cause...

[venture]

This week's top 25

BCS STANDINGS
BCS RANK	TEAM	BCS AVG	HARRIS VOTES	HARRIS PCT	COACHES VOTES	COACHES PCT	SAGARIN	COLLEY	A-H	BILLINGSLEY	MASSEY	WOLFE	CPU AVG
1	Alabama	0.9937	2590	0.9962	1542	0.9948	2	2	1	1	1	1	1.25
2	Oregon	0.9517	2492	0.9585	1483	0.9568	4	1	3	2	2	3	2.5
3	Florida State	0.9211	2386	0.9177	1419	0.9155	1	4	2	5	3	2	2.75
4	Ohio State	0.884	2301	0.885	1375	0.8871	5	3	4	3	8	4	4
5	Stanford	0.7918	2035	0.7827	1182	0.7626	6	5	6	4	4	6	5.25
6	Baylor	0.7645	2130	0.8192	1293	0.8342	9	7	10	11	12	10	10
7	Miami (Fla.)	0.756	1977	0.7604	1190	0.7677	8	6	5	15	7	9	7.5
8	Clemson	0.6687	1767	0.6796	1064	0.6865	11	11	11	7	10	8	10
9	Missouri	0.6096	1510	0.5808	834	0.5381	10	8	9	9	5	7	8.25
10	Oklahoma	0.6064	1475	0.5673	933	0.6019	13	9	7	6	11	12	9.75
11	Auburn	0.6025	1453	0.5588	804	0.5187	7	10	8	18	6	5	7.75
12	Texas A&M	0.4812	1364	0.5246	758	0.489	18	13	16	19	13	14	15.25
13	LSU	0.463	1408	0.5415	802	0.5174	20	23	20	10	15	16	17.75
14	South Carolina	0.4486	1043	0.4012	627	0.4045	16	18	12	8	9	13	12.5
15	Texas Tech	0.3749	1093	0.4204	673	0.4342	22	16	18	14	22	21	19.25
16	Fresno State	0.3669	965	0.3712	542	0.3497	14	14	13	25	29	11	16.5
17	Northern Illinois	0.3335	650	0.25	373	0.2406	3	12	17	12	14	15	13.25
18	Oklahoma State	0.3113	1081	0.4158	803	0.5181	40	33	26	28	37	36	33.5
19	Louisville	0.2599	1056	0.4062	579	0.3735	37	29	36	17	34	32	32.75
20	UCLA	0.2338	683	0.2627	432	0.2787	23	31	25	20	19	20	22
21	Michigan	0.1875	528	0.2031	309	0.1994	29	17	14	22	24	25	22
22	Michigan State	0.1811	391	0.1504	237	0.1529	17	15	23	27	18	22	20
23	UCF	0.1789	502	0.1931	300	0.1935	21	25	27	16	35	17	22.5
24	Wisconsin	0.0993	350	0.1346	253	0.1632	42	41	41	33	45	43	41.75
25	Notre Dame	0.0928	91	0.035	83	0.0535	25	21	21	13	20	23	21.25

Other Big 12 Teams...

Texas #33 - TCU # 64 - Kansas State #69 - West Virginia #73 - Kansas #92 - Iowa State #103

[venture]

BCS for the week...OSU moved up and TTU had the bottom drop out of them.

BCS STANDINGS
BCS RANK	TEAM	BCS AVG	HARRIS VOTES	HARRIS PCT	COACHES VOTES	COACHES PCT	SAGARIN	COLLEY	A-H	BILLINGSLEY	MASSEY	WOLFE	CPU AVG
1	Alabama	0.9797	2613	0.9954	1540	0.9935	2	3	3	1	2	2	2.25
2	Florida State	0.9525	2444	0.931	1436	0.9265	1	1	1	4	1	1	1
3	Oregon	0.9435	2491	0.949	1475	0.9516	3	4	2	2	3	3	2.75
4	Ohio State	0.872	2317	0.8827	1369	0.8832	5	2	4	3	8	7	4.75
5	Stanford	0.793	2102	0.8008	1222	0.7884	9	5	6	5	4	9	6.25
6	Baylor	0.7745	2167	0.8255	1299	0.8381	7	9	8	11	12	10	9.5
7	Clemson	0.7277	1890	0.72	1121	0.7232	10	7	10	6	7	4	7.5
8	Missouri	0.689	1725	0.6571	961	0.62	8	6	5	9	5	6	6.25
9	Auburn	0.6686	1672	0.637	959	0.6187	6	8	9	14	6	5	7.25
10	Oklahoma	0.6084	1572	0.5989	971	0.6265	15	10	7	7	13	14	11
11	Miami (Fla.)	0.5246	1344	0.512	747	0.4819	12	11	13	15	10	8	11.5
12	South Carolina	0.5111	1175	0.4476	722	0.4658	11	13	11	8	9	11	10.5
13	LSU	0.4525	1467	0.5589	835	0.5387	19	27	21	10	19	19	19.5
14	Oklahoma State	0.4395	1315	0.501	864	0.5574	18	20	18	18	22	24	19.5
15	Texas A&M	0.4365	1426	0.5432	800	0.5161	22	21	23	19	17	16	19.75
16	Fresno State	0.3675	989	0.3768	567	0.3658	14	14	17	25	23	12	17
17	Michigan State	0.3394	789	0.3006	446	0.2877	16	12	16	21	14	15	15.25
18	Northern Illinois	0.3169	727	0.277	409	0.2639	4	17	22	13	20	13	15.75
19	UCLA	0.2904	768	0.2926	494	0.3187	20	24	20	20	18	17	19.5
20	Louisville	0.251	1013	0.3859	569	0.3671	31	26	36	17	46	34	31.75
21	UCF	0.2151	567	0.216	340	0.2194	17	22	24	16	31	20	20.75
22	Arizona State	0.177	255	0.0971	130	0.0839	24	15	12	28	11	18	17.25
23	Notre Dame	0.1662	155	0.059	108	0.0697	23	16	15	12	15	21	16.75
24	Wisconsin	0.1288	450	0.1714	333	0.2148	26	36	34	29	44	26	31.25
25	Texas Tech	0.0986	409	0.1558	217	0.14	35	33	29	23	32	37	32.25

Other Big 12 schools...
#28 Texas
#63 Kansas State
#68 West Virginia
#76 TCU
#92 Kansas
#102 Iowa State

[venture]

New BCS...

BCS STANDINGS
BCS RANK	TEAM	BCS AVG	HARRIS VOTES	HARRIS PCT	COACHES VOTES	COACHES PCT	SAGARIN	COLLEY	A-H	BILLINGSLEY	MASSEY	WOLFE	CPU AVG
1	Alabama	0.9891	2625	1	1546	0.9974	2	2	2	1	1	2	1.75
2	Florida State	0.9686	2514	0.9577	1485	0.9581	1	1	1	3	2	1	1.25
3	Ohio State	0.8826	2373	0.904	1401	0.9039	5	4	4	4	8	7	5
4	Stanford	0.8722	2240	0.8533	1307	0.8432	3	3	3	2	3	3	3
5	Baylor	0.8618	2304	0.8777	1376	0.8877	4	5	5	7	6	6	5.5
6	Oregon	0.7565	1968	0.7497	1162	0.7497	7	8	7	5	9	4	6.75
7	Clemson	0.74	1940	0.739	1164	0.751	13	9	9	6	7	5	7.75
8	Missouri	0.7118	1855	0.7067	1083	0.6987	9	7	6	9	4	9	7.75
9	Auburn	0.7106	1843	0.7021	1069	0.6897	8	6	8	11	5	8	7.5
10	South Carolina	0.5718	1417	0.5398	830	0.5355	10	12	10	10	10	10	10
11	Texas A&M	0.534	1582	0.6027	898	0.5794	17	13	22	16	15	14	15.5
12	Oklahoma State	0.4837	1545	0.5886	965	0.6226	22	20	16	18	20	23	20
13	Fresno State	0.4317	1124	0.4282	646	0.4168	12	11	15	21	22	11	14.75
14	Michigan State	0.4151	1090	0.4152	620	0.4	23	15	14	19	12	13	15.25
15	UCLA	0.4048	1026	0.3909	641	0.4135	11	17	17	15	16	15	15.75
16	Northern Illinois	0.3405	825	0.3143	445	0.2871	6	18	21	14	18	12	15.5
17	Oklahoma	0.3393	732	0.2789	510	0.329	26	16	12	8	17	18	15.75
18	UCF	0.3211	791	0.3013	468	0.3019	16	14	19	13	25	19	17
19	Louisville	0.2806	1104	0.4206	653	0.4213	35	30	36	17	40	34	33.75
20	Arizona State	0.2767	475	0.181	262	0.169	18	10	11	23	11	16	14
21	LSU	0.2691	919	0.3501	476	0.3071	21	29	26	12	21	21	22.25
22	Wisconsin	0.2045	674	0.2568	460	0.2968	19	26	34	22	29	24	25.25
23	Miami (Fla.)	0.1804	457	0.1741	228	0.1471	27	21	18	27	13	17	20.75
24	Georgia	0.1024	102	0.0389	44	0.0284	25	22	13	24	14	20	20
25	Texas	0.0959	247	0.0941	176	0.1135	24	25	23	20	24	27	24

Honorable(?) mentions...
#35 Texas Tech
#42 Kansas State
#68 West Virginia
#77 TCU
#92 Kansas
#103 Iowa State

[Anonymous.]

That will be good for OSU that Texas will be ranked when they play.

[OKCisOK4me]

If OSU takes care of business from here on out then that's good since all our opponents are ranked...

[ljbab728]

Just as I suspected, Baylor is up to 4th and withing striking distance of Ohio State for 3rd. A victory over OSU would push them up there. All they need is an upset of one of the top two to be in the chase for the championship game.

NCAA College Football BCS Standings Week 13 - ESPN

[MWCGuy]

Traditionally this coming week is the week of upsets. I predict 2-3 of the undefeated teams will fall. When you get down to the last two games of the season the better teams start getting cocky and screw up one of the last 2-3 games. One of them likely fall to a team they were expected to beat.

[ThomPaine]

Wow...

SEC: unbelievable talk about how Auburn, with one loss in the vaunted SEC, might jump an undefeated Ohio State. Please. What happened to this league's defense?

PAC 12: a home game conference championship game, and you can't even sell out the stadium? What else could be going on in Arizona?

ACC: an FSU loss might be viewed as the biggest upset in college football history. They look really good though...

Big Ten (11): how weak is your conference when a segment of the college football geniuses think a team with zero losses in two years might get leapfrogged by a one loss SEC team? MSU will probably win so all the geniuses can say: "See?"

Big 12 (10): how's this for a Fiesta Bowl draw: Baylor vs UCF. Yay. (At least texas can start to implode now.)

Come on playoff.

If this was next year, what would the top four teams be? Probably better answered tomorrow, but if things go the way I think they will, I say: FSU, Auburn, Alabama, Baylor (or Michigan State or Stanford)

[OKCisOK4me]

Personally, I'm glad in a horrible way that my Pokes lost to OU. Reason being is that they had us playing Northern IL/Central Florida. I'd rather play someone more interesting.

Side note: OSU screwed themselves over by losing to WVU. We all know that. No tellin if, had they won that game that they would have gone undefeated the rest of the season. It is what it is. So be it. This years bowl game will be better than last year AND this last game will be more enjoyable than all of next year cause 70% of our starters are graduating...

[mugofbeer]

Don't look now but Ohio State's having some major problems with Michigan State.....tho they did just score.