Mass Shootings & age of shooters

[bucktalk]

I can't seem to locate actual statistics, but it appears the age of most of the shooters is incredibly young -and all males. I would like to know from a trained psychoanalyst what's happening in these young males to tragically kill so many people. While the shootings at LGBT locations appears to be hate crimes -what about all the school shootings and the age of the shooters?

What's going inside the head/hearts of these young guys?

[BoulderSooner]

I can't seem to locate actual statistics, but it appears the age of most of the shooters is incredibly young -and all males. I would like to know from a trained psychoanalyst what's happening in these young males to tragically kill so many people. While the shootings at LGBT locations appears to be hate crimes -what about all the school shootings and the age of the shooters?

What's going inside the head/hearts of these young guys?

lack of masculinity .. and the nuclear family

[bucktalk]

lack of masculinity .. and the nuclear family

But didn't the "parents" of one of the shooters know/purchase the gun used in the shooting? But you bring up a good point to consider parental skills/involvement with some of the shooters.

[HangryHippo]

lack of masculinity .. and the nuclear family

Unreal.

[Rover]

lack of masculinity .. and the nuclear family

This has to be sarcasm.

[DowntownMan]

I can't seem to locate actual statistics, but it appears the age of most of the shooters is incredibly young -and all males. I would like to know from a trained psychoanalyst what's happening in these young males to tragically kill so many people. While the shootings at LGBT locations appears to be hate crimes -what about all the school shootings and the age of the shooters?

What's going inside the head/hearts of these young guys?

I’ve always wondered if a generation that grew up playing video games that are largely shooting people has had any impact on this.

[TheTravellers]

lack of masculinity .. and the nuclear family

[PoliSciGuy]

I’ve always wondered if a generation that grew up playing video games that are largely shooting people has had any impact on this.

No. If this were the case we'd see similar shootings in Japan and Western Europe, which play the same games at the same rates as here in the US.

It's the guns.

[bucktalk]

It's more than "it's the guns"....right? I think we have to take into account social environment along with mental health.

[Bill Robertson]

It's more than "it's the guns"....right? I think we have to take into account social environment along with mental health.

It has to be. I've thinned the herd a lot the last few years but at times I've had more than 20 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. The most I've ever shot is paper. Or cans/bottles/trash when we used to go out to the country to shoot. Yes, the gun is necessary for these violent shootings but so is a mental disorder of some kind.

[TheTravellers]

It's more than "it's the guns"....right? I think we have to take into account social environment along with mental health.

Toxic masculinity.

[Roger S]

The guns are just a convenient/effective tool.... We've been killing each other since we appeared on this planet... You just hear about it faster now.

Can it be stopped? I doubt it. We've been on this planet 300,000 years and aren't even close to figuring out how to.

[PoliSciGuy]

It's more than "it's the guns"....right? I think we have to take into account social environment along with mental health.

Not really. Most other developed democracies have the same mental health issues we do, a similar social environment, play the same video games, listen to the same kind of music, have similar rates of divorce/broken families, etc. We are the only developed democracy on earth with the massively high level of mass shootings that we experience.

It's the guns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/w...a-britain.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...rnational.html

[Jersey Boss]

The guns are just a convenient/effective tool.... We've been killing each other since we appeared on this planet... You just hear about it faster now.

Can it be stopped? I doubt it. We've been on this planet 300,000 years and aren't even close to figuring out how to.

It would appear that Austrailia has indeed figured it out.
These are significant numbers and to argue 2A does nothing to refute the cause in our country.

Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted. - Vox
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

[BoulderSooner]

It would appear that Austrailia has indeed figured it out.
These are significant numbers and to argue 2A does nothing to refute the cause in our country.

Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted. - Vox
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

ok so amend the constitution and then we can use that solution ..

[PhiAlpha]

It would appear that Austrailia has indeed figured it out.
These are significant numbers and to argue 2A does nothing to refute the cause in our country.

Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted. - Vox
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

The mass shooting number differences are hard to argue with but it doesn’t say anything about mass homicides in general after that time period which I think would’ve been important to include in the article. That article also doesn’t discuss much about the murder and suicide trends in the 20-30 year time prior to the gun buy backs going into effect which I think is fairly important in determining a cause and effect relationship (ie was this the beginning of the trend or was it already in a fairly significant decline beforehand). They should’ve further broken it down into murders and suicides by gun and by other methods. I guess my point being, if that article is trying to convince anyone other than the people who already agree with them that guns are the problem, it isn’t very convincing and has a bunch of holes that could’ve easily been filled if they’d either done more research or chosen to include the additional statistics.

Also something that none of the anti-gun posters have addressed. We’ve always had a ton of guns but why the uptick in large scale mass shootings, school shootings in particular, after the late 1980s?

[Roger S]

It would appear that Austrailia has indeed figured it out.

No... No they haven't... They may have lessened the problem by removing an effective tool but they have not solved the problem.

As I said. We have been killing each other for 300,000 years.... Or if you are a Christian a little over 2000 years ago when Cain killed Able. Regardless a long time before guns were invented.

Humans have put a lot of time and thought into better ways to kill each other over the centuries... If only we could have put all that time and effort into how to get along without violence... Maybe we could have found the answer by now.

[Bullbear]

I mean I can't speak for everyone else, but I would welcome " lessening the problem" . it might not fix it completely but if it saves some lives seems worth it.

[Jersey Boss]

No... No they haven't... They may have lessened the problem by removing an effective tool but they have not solved the problem.

As I said. We have been killing each other for 300,000 years.... Or if you are a Christian a little over 2000 years ago when Cain killed Able. Regardless a long time before guns were invented.

Humans have put a lot of time and thought into better ways to kill each other over the centuries... If only we could have put all that time and effort into how to get along without violence... Maybe we could have found the answer by now.

It seems you are saying good is the enemy of perfect.

[Jersey Boss]

The mass shooting number differences are hard to argue with but it doesn’t say anything about mass homicides in general after that time period which I think would’ve been important to include in the article. That article also doesn’t discuss much about the murder and suicide trends in the 20-30 year time prior to the gun buy backs going into effect which I think is fairly important in determining a cause and effect relationship (ie was this the beginning of the trend or was it already in a fairly significant decline beforehand). They should’ve further broken it down into murders and suicides by gun and by other methods. I guess my point being, if that article is trying to convince anyone other than the people who already agree with them that guns are the problem, it isn’t very convincing and has a bunch of holes that could’ve easily been filled if they’d either done more research or chosen to include the additional statistics.

Also something that none of the anti-gun posters have addressed. We’ve always had a ton of guns but why the uptick in large scale mass shootings, school shootings in particular, after the late 1980s?

While we had "tons of guns" prior to the last 30 years, the proliferation of more carry guns everywhere with no limits is a recent phenomana.

[PhiAlpha]

I mean I can't speak for everyone else, but I would welcome " lessening the problem" . it might not fix it completely but if it saves some lives seems worth it.

Short of banning or taking guns, I’m all for adding well thought out regulations that actually have been researched and stand a reasonable chance of helping.

[PhiAlpha]

While we had "tons of guns" prior to the last 30 years, the proliferation of more carry guns everywhere with no limits is a recent phenomana.

What limitations were placed on “carry guns” before that have been removed and led to all the mass shootings?

Also what do you consider a carry gun?

[Roger S]

I mean I can't speak for everyone else, but I would welcome " lessening the problem" . it might not fix it completely but if it saves some lives seems worth it.

I'm not against lessening it either because I don't believe it can ever be stopped.

The human brain is the most dangerous weapon on this planet though. Once it is set on murder. There are a myriad of ways to accomplish it..... Timothy McVeigh is one of the best examples.

[David]

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

[Roger S]

It seems you are saying good is the enemy of perfect.

No... I'm saying good probably won't be good enough.