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    Patrick Guest

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    Well, already, 2 dozen people have expressed an interest in leasing an apartment at The Montgomery, and real renovations haven't even begun on the property. The completed complex will have 56 units.

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    "Tanenbaum tests the waters: Downtown luxury apartments to open with two dozen tenants
    by Ted Streuli
    The Journal Record
    9/3/2004



    Dick Tanenbaum is ready to show his stuff.
    Standing in the living room of a sixth-floor model apartment, the developer looked out a window that framed a view of the Oklahoma City Museum of Art and the tree-lined streets of the city beyond.

    "You'd live here, wouldn't you?" Tanenbaum said. "I would."

    So far, about two dozen people have agreed and signed leases. They'll become The Montgomery's first tenants on Oct. 15 and the newly finished models are likely to fill the balance of the 56-unit building. There are eight open floor plans for the 13 urban-luxury-feel apartments on each of the third through sixth floors.

    But Tanenbaum said Oklahoma City was a much different market than other parts of the country.

    "If you announce a project in Houston, they sign up and it's sold out before it's built," he said. "Here, they want to see it first."

    The 106 people who have expressed an interest in making the former Montgomery Ward department store their new home - but haven't signed a lease - now have a chance to see samples of the finished product. They'll find high ceilings - 14 feet on the sixth floor, 12 feet on the other floors - that are open to the building's plumbing and duct work, a design decision that makes the apartments feel like lofts.

    "The thinking that we all had was to bring a big-city feel to the apartments, a contemporary lifestyle that Oklahoma's not used to," said interior designer Karl Bertoch, who partnered with three other designers to create the models. "I think these apartments feel more urban than the majority of the apartments you find in Oklahoma."

    Bertoch said warm colors were used to foster a relaxed, casual environment and that while each residential floor offers the same layout, the building's structural components make the units unique. Among those elements are large pillars that have provided support since the structure was built in 1929.

    "The columns add a lot," Bertoch said. "They remind you that you're in an old building. You really get a sense of the building itself rather than just being in a box."

    The one- and two-bedroom layouts range from 1,000 square feet to 1,500 square feet, with large closets and still-sparkling stainless steel appliances. The carpets and walls are neutral earth tones, the counters faux granite, the cabinetry mahogany with a gray glaze. In some apartments, the bedroom is separated only by a partial wall, a classier version of something one might expect to see in an Austin Powers film; other floor plans have a more traditional - and private - arrangement.

    "You're either an empty-nester or a professional working downtown," Tanenbaum said. "It's no Bricktown - it's not for kids."

    There isn't much chance that the building's concierge will have to spend his time helping besotted college students into the elevator. The apartments are priced at $1,000 to $2,000 per month, a range of $1 per square foot to $1.33 per square foot.

    "It's about a 20 percent premium for living downtown," Tanenbaum said.

    John Maisch, a partner in Egressive Commercial Realty who lives in downtown's newest major residential project, the Deep Deuce apartments, said the success of The Montgomery would bode well for developers pursuing similar projects. Maisch said apartments in the less luxurious Deep Deuce rent for 90 cents per square foot. He agreed that living on the west side of downtown would be a much different environment than the east side's Bricktown area. Maisch said that while Bricktown housing would attract a younger audience and employees from the nearby medical center, the west side would appeal to the audience Tanenbaum is after: higher-income professionals who want to be able to walk to work and arts venues.

    "The whole brokerage community is excited and hopes Dick Tanenbaum is successful because it validates the demand for downtown living," Maisch said.

    An April 2000 report commissioned by the Oklahoma City Urban Renewal Authority estimated demand for mid-rise apartments like those in The Montgomery at 1,550 units, but that study also concluded that only 390 of those apartments would command rents of $1,000 to $1,299 per month and that there was no market at all for mid-rise housing priced at $1,300 per month or more. Tanenbaum is gambling $5 million that 56 people will be willing to pay the premium prices.

    The report didn't concern Downtown OKC Inc. president Dave Lopez. Lopez said downtown development and inflation during the past four years would be a sufficient basis to revise the numbers.

    "Anytime there's a new venture such as this, it's important to have a model that works," Lopez said. "We probably have a glut of Class C property downtown. The ability to turn a property like The Montgomery into upscale housing is an additional benefit. The location in the arts district will begin to give us a better mix of the live, work and play vitality that we're looking for downtown."

    Lopez said that other multifamily projects planned for the arts district - like Mike Henderson's $25 million Legacy Summit - would create a cluster of residences that could help drive demand.

    "I think the modest number of units in The Montgomery makes it a manageable project," Lopez said.

    For those willing to pay the price, they'll get city views, a parking garage connected to the second and fourth floors by indoor walkways, retail shops and restaurants on the ground floor and a 16,000-square-foot fitness center in the basement. They'll enter through a tiled rotunda, have on-site security and the services of a concierge.

    "It's not all bad," Tanenbaum said.

    And while it's Tanenbaum's first foray into residential property, Lopez said confidence in The Montgomery's success is high.

    "It's a first-in-market project and Dick's in a position to capture the demand first," he said. "There are risks and rewards that go with that. But I don't think I'd want to bet against Dick Tanenbaum."

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    Joe Schmoe Guest

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    Its great to see the polychrome scheme restored on the old Monkey Wards building. Looking good.

    Downtown living will change the basic nature of the area. Now, there may be someone downtown after 5:30.

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    Does The Montgomery have a web site?

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    Patrick Guest

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    Hey Luke,

    They don't have a website at the present time, but they do have a site on the Apartment Guide site.

    Here's the link:
    http://www.apartmentguide.com/Proper...sSFlg=&lk=ovTb

    It has the floorplans and everything.

    Hope this helps.

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    There was an article on NewsOk.com talking about the Montgomery. It said something like 350 people had inquired for about 56 aparments. This is when OKC should take advantage of the situation and show to the world what can happen here. The owners of the Montgomery should jack the prices up to an unbelievable rate since there is such high demand. Nothing would be more impressive in say the USA Today for OKC than headlines about million dollar apartments in OK going like crazy!

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    I think developers should see that people actually want to live downtown and build more housing. What other old buildings could be renovated and turned into condos? And what is the status on The Factory in Bricktown?

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    Patrick Guest

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    With such demand, why don't we consider developing the old Mercy site again??? It was supposed to be developed into an apartment community but the developer pulled out, after tearing down the old Mercy Hospital.

    The Factory is still on the drawing board. Hopefully work will start soon.
    Also, Urban Renewal is seeking bids for development of the "hill" just west of Deep Deuce. Hopefully we'll see some apartments going up there in the next couple of years or so....maybe sooner.

    BG asked for ideas for other buildings to turn into housing. Well, the First National Building downtown is only about 40% leased......why not turn part of it into a residential community? The old Banking Hall can be the central lobby and leasing office of the apartment complex.
    Maybe not though.....I guess having housing in the middle of the CBD might not be such a good idea! It's better than letting the building sit empty though.
    Last edited by Patrick; 09-21-2004 at 09:39 PM.

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    What is the low and high rent for The Montgomery? I can't find it anywhere.

    By the way, www.themontgomeryokc.com is the web site for them.

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    Patrick Guest

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    I don't believe they've posted rates yet. You'd have to call.

    Anyways, here are some new pics they have posted of the interiors. Very impressive.

    http://www.apartmentguide.com/Proper...sSFlg=&lk=phTb

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    I'll give 'em a call. Thanks.

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    Patrick Guest

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    If you find out the info. feel free to post it. I'd love to hear the rents. If you have problems reaching them let me know and I'll give it a shot.

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    OK, just made a call. They have one and two bedroom apartments available in a variety of square footages. The low end is $800 for a one bedroom apartment. The top of the line is $2050 for a two bedroom with 2000-something square feet. Two bedrooms start at $1100. The Montgomery will soon begin construction on an upscale restaurant as well as a café/deli. They are also installing a spa and a men's clothier. There is a gift shop on the second floor that has been there since before the building converted into living space.

    They began leasing November 1st and have 21 of 56 units leased. The lady sounded very pleased with the progress and encouraged me to make an appointment to come and visit. I think I will...

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    If you have to ask the price it is probably not for you, however rates are starting at around $1000.

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    Strange to see it fill up so fast at those prices. There are some disappointments in some of the materials they chose for the property. For $2000/month, you'd expect hardwood floors or NICE carpet, not industrial berber. You'd also expect something nicer in the countertops than formica.

    I'm just not as impressed as I thought I'd be. For that money, you'd expect molding, not exposed ductwork.

    Maybe my expectations were too high?

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    That's an excellent point Midtowner, you think with Tanenbaum's expertise and for that price, they could have had classier tastes, nothing says Cheap Oklahoman's like berber carpet. The cheap countertops and molding were disappointing as well. As for the ductwork, I like it and I think its part of the intensions to keep some of the industrial original elements exposed.

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    As far as the "industrial original elements", the building was originally retail space. Typically, with retail space, you don't have exposed duct work. I'm not old enough to have ever really shopped there when it was a Monkey Wards, but if retail stores of its day were anything like those of our day, the duct work wasn't showing

    My apartment at Sycamore Square for a lot less does have berber and formica, but I get what I have for b/w 2/3 to 1/2 the price of someone at the Montgumery. The two are close enough that I consider location to be a wash.

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    Patrick Guest

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    Midtowner, I agree with you. I still think the Montgomery will be a hit, especially with more professional type people who work downtown, but for the money, I'd definitely go with Sycamore. Sure, Sycamore is an older complex, but it has been kept up very well! I'm always very impressed just how well kept it is everytime I drive by it.

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    nurfe75 Guest

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    I can understand wanting a view and being intrigued by "living downtown," but get real. This is OKC. Not Manhattan or San Francisco. I think its hysterical that people would be willing to pay 2k/month for an apartment when half that will get you a mortgage pmnt on a NICE house. Why do people throw away money on rent like this when they could buy a home? Oh well...I too am disappointed by the photos. I can't believe OKC has people willing to pay this much on rent when our property values are so low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurfe75
    I can understand wanting a view and being intrigued by "living downtown," but get real. This is OKC. Not Manhattan or San Francisco. I think its hysterical that people would be willing to pay 2k/month for an apartment when half that will get you a mortgage pmnt on a NICE house. Why do people throw away money on rent like this when they could buy a home? Oh well...I too am disappointed by the photos. I can't believe OKC has people willing to pay this much on rent when our property values are so low.
    2,000 per month a "nice" house? That is an under statement. That would probably get you around 10,000 square feet in an area like Rivendel. My parents house is near there in a similar area and is not quite that big. If they had a mortgage, it would be about 1,200 a month. Yes. I think it is stupid and a bad investment to pay for an apartment when a house costs the same or less per month... And YOU own it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurfe75
    I can understand wanting a view and being intrigued by "living downtown," but get real. This is OKC. Not Manhattan or San Francisco. I think its hysterical that people would be willing to pay 2k/month for an apartment when half that will get you a mortgage pmnt on a NICE house. Why do people throw away money on rent like this when they could buy a home? Oh well...I too am disappointed by the photos. I can't believe OKC has people willing to pay this much on rent when our property values are so low.
    My guess is that the top-dollar ones are going to be used primarily as corporate apartments and things of that nature. Nice places for consultants and such to stay while they are visiting companies here in OKC for extended periods. That would almost make sense.

    I'm just in awe that they used berber carpet. Should have just left the floors bare.

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    does anyone know what that building is just east of the Montgomery? It appears as it is an old hotel but no sign is out and it seems rather clinical and discrete??

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    Patrick Guest

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    East or West? I'm thinking you meant west. Just west of the Montgomery is the old downtown Holiday Inn.....it's some type of housing now...not sure for who, but I'd guess it's for some type of special needs people. East of the Montgomery is just that strip of shopping/restaurants.

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    yes, i stand corrected, i meant west, does anyone know what type of housing project that is? that would be a great condo or hotel site for the new revived arts district

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    I got a tour of the Montgomery yesterday. Read all about it at my blog.

    http://theoklahoman.blogspot.com

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    Excellent website info Luke. As for the Berber carpet, I just don't think it's that great an idea. I've always been a bigger fan of softer carpet. I've always felt that berber was more of an advantage to the landlord than the tenant.

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