Go Sooners beat the Wildcats!

[SoonerQueen]

[MonkeesFan]

I do not the see the Sooners winning this game, it is a trap game, I just have a bad feeling about this...

[dcsooner]

not really a trap game, Sooners proving to be an ok team, but not elite this year. 9-3 season at best

[venture]

I do not the see the Sooners winning this game, it is a trap game, I just have a bad feeling about this...

K State did almost lose to North Texas though, which could mean they were overlooking to OU. I am worried about having a run happy team coming to Norman though. Defense has a chance to get exposed greatly. I still think they win, but extremely close.

I think we lose in Lubbock, as usual, as they focus more on Texas. Kansas is a win. Notre Dame could get very ugly quickly for us. Iowa State is a win. Baylor is a win, as it should be. We lose in Morgantown to WVU. OSU can go either way and it will directly impact if TCU blows us up or we win.

I just don't how schools like Bama can just reload year after year and look down right nasty. Then you have OU which is always hyped but then exposed. Has Stoops lost his touch?

[Spartan]

Collin Klein.

[Bellaboo]

K State did almost lose to North Texas though, which could mean they were overlooking to OU. I am worried about having a run happy team coming to Norman though. Defense has a chance to get exposed greatly. I still think they win, but extremely close.

I think we lose in Lubbock, as usual, as they focus more on Texas. Kansas is a win. Notre Dame could get very ugly quickly for us. Iowa State is a win. Baylor is a win, as it should be. We lose in Morgantown to WVU. OSU can go either way and it will directly impact if TCU blows us up or we win.

I just don't how schools like Bama can just reload year after year and look down right nasty. Then you have OU which is always hyped but then exposed. Has Stoops lost his touch?

Yes, it's a few years past time for new blood....I've been saying for the last few years he's over paid for his production............look how bad our 'special' teams looked so un-special at UTEP.....it all starts at the top.

[adaniel]

It wouldn't be football season without at least 1 "Fire Bob Stoops" thread.

[ou48A]

If the home crowd brings it’s -A- game and if OU keeps its mistakes to a minimum the Sooners should win.

[ou48A]

Roll call: Who besides me will be attending the OU KSU game?
Right now the weather looks very good.

[Just the facts]

I just don't how schools like Bama can just reload year after year and look down right nasty. Then you have OU which is always hyped but then exposed. Has Stoops lost his touch?

You have to look how the SEC schedules their games. Most of the key matchups occur in the first 2 or 3 games of the season and they save nearly all of the powder-puff games for the last 2 or 3 games of the season. So while OU is playing OSU, Michigan is playing Ohio St, etc, Alabama is playing Western Carolina. The SEC also has a complete lack of inter-divisional play. They only play 2 conference games outside their division. This gives every team in the SEC an extra win (and removes a loss at the same time). In short, they can't lose to each other if they don't play each other.

This year Alabma plays Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and Western Carolina BUT only plays Tennessee and Missouri from the SEC East. Meanwhile, Florida plays Bowling Green, Lousiana Rajun Cajuns, Jacksonville State, and FSU, but only play LSU and Texas AM from the SEC West. In fact, Florida's last 3 games are all non-conference games. They end confernce play on Nov 3 against Missouri. Meanwhile, OU plays Baylor, West Virginia, OSU, and TCU during the same time span.

[ou48A]

I just don't how schools like Bama can just reload year after year and look down right nasty.

Alabama plays a tough schedule; their November schedule usually includes LSU and Auburn. Alabama often plays in the SEC championship and in a very tough bowl… but their secret is in how they recruit.

Alabama does a very good job of evaluating talent. They receive far friendlier local media coverage than OU. It’s almost like propaganda and as a result very few players leave the state that Alabama wants.

When most teams including OU seldom over sign the maximum of 25 scholarships, Alabama and most other SEC teams have over signed players, often over 30. After players sign’s, they run off their mistakes once they are on campus the following summer. They will also gray shirt a few players.
But this is how Alabama has reloaded in recent years.

While this practices has not been a technical violation of NCAA rules it’s been a violation of the spirit of the rule and enough so that the SEC was finally forced to take action. I don’t remember if it started with the last class or this class, but the SEC has passed a rule that will seriously restrict the number of over signed players... Also the NCAA is going to start being punished teams for low graduation rates. Teams with low graduation rates will have scholarships and post season play restricted. For example had these rules been in place OSU would not have been able to go to the Fiesta bowl last year.

New stricter NCAA eligibility requirements are coming. They will involve tougher high school classes and higher grades. This will make it tougher on teams who have made living with players who were poor students.
In another 2 or 3 years all of this will combine to put a pretty big dent in the run that the SEC has had.

PS: Attending a big game at Alabama is a real treat to a college football fan such as myself.
But Alabama is beatable this year.

[BoulderSooner]

Roll call: Who besides me will be attending the OU KSU game?
Right now the weather looks very good.

i will be there per always

[BoulderSooner]

You have to look how the SEC schedules their games. Most of the key matchups occur in the first 2 or 3 games of the season and they save nearly all of the powder-puff games for the last 2 or 3 games of the season. So while OU is playing OSU, Michigan is playing Ohio St, etc, Alabama is playing Western Carolina. The SEC also has a complete lack of inter-divisional play. They only play 2 conference games outside their division. This gives every team in the SEC an extra win (and removes a loss at the same time). In short, they can't lose to each other if they don't play each other.

This year Alabma plays Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and Western Carolina BUT only plays Tennessee and Missouri from the SEC East. Meanwhile, Florida plays Bowling Green, Lousiana Rajun Cajuns, Jacksonville State, and FSU, but only play LSU and Texas AM from the SEC West. In fact, Florida's last 3 games are all non-conference games. They end confernce play on Nov 3 against Missouri. Meanwhile, OU plays Baylor, West Virginia, OSU, and TCU during the same time span.

what?? wrong .. florida st is that hardest game on florida's schedule .. and bama has played no one so far

[ou48A]

In his press conference today Bob Stoops indicated that he wants a very loud crowd Saturday night.

[Just the facts]

You have to look how the SEC schedules their games. Most of the key matchups occur in the first 2 or 3 games of the season and they save nearly all of the powder-puff games for the last 2 or 3 games of the season. So while OU is playing OSU, Michigan is playing Ohio St, etc, Alabama is playing Western Carolina. The SEC also has a complete lack of inter-divisional play. They only play 2 conference games outside their division. This gives every team in the SEC an extra win (and removes a loss at the same time). In short, they can't lose to each other if they don't play each other.

This year Alabma plays Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and Western Carolina BUT only plays Tennessee and Missouri from the SEC East. Meanwhile, Florida plays Bowling Green, Lousiana Rajun Cajuns, Jacksonville State, and FSU, but only play LSU and Texas AM from the SEC West. In fact, Florida's last 3 games are all non-conference games. They end confernce play on Nov 3 against Missouri. Meanwhile, OU plays Baylor, West Virginia, OSU, and TCU during the same time span.

what?? wrong .. florida st is that hardest game on florida's schedule .. and bama has played no one so far

What exactly did I get wrong? FSU might be the best team on UFs schedule but that game comes right after UF plays Lousiana Cajuns and Jacksonville St. Besides, UF plays FSU on the same day every year, regardless of how good or bad FSU is and it isn't a conference game anyhow.

So far Alabama has played Michigan and Arkansas. OU has played UTEP and Florida A&M. OSU has played Savannah St, Arizona and Louisana Tech (or something like that).

All I am saying is that OU and OSU should have played each other the first game of the season, and then they could have played Florida A&M and Savannah St in November. It is better to lose early. How else do you explain how Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas all ended up 1, 2, 3 last year.

[MonkeesFan]

In his press conference today Bob Stoops indicated that he wants a very loud crowd Saturday night.

He is worried about a loud crowd instead of the game?

[ou48A]

He is worried about a loud crowd instead of the game?

No, Stoops is worried about the game.

[wallbreaker]

Also the NCAA is going to start being punished teams for low graduation rates. Teams with low graduation rates will have scholarships and post season play restricted. For example had these rules been in place OSU would not have been able to go to the Fiesta bowl last year.

Curious here. What would the cutoff be? While OSU's graduation rates aren't the best in the big 12, they're not the bottom, nor near the bottom. They've been in the middle to the top. Are you saying that with these new rules, OU and Texas would be kept out of the post season? Cause I can't see that happening.

[dankrutka]

He is worried about a loud crowd instead of the game?

Why on earth would this be an either/or situation?!? And a more accurate description would probably be that he hopes for a good crowd and spends all his time preparing for the game.

I'm not trying to be insulting, but are you really young? Your posts remind of a middle schoolers... Which is finhair that's how old you are... Just curious.

[ou48A]

Alabama plays a tough schedule; their November schedule usually includes LSU and Auburn. Alabama often plays in the SEC championship and in a very tough bowl… but their secret is in how they recruit.

Alabama does a very good job of evaluating talent. They receive far friendlier local media coverage than OU. It’s almost like propaganda and as a result very few players leave the state that Alabama wants.

When most teams including OU seldom over sign the maximum of 25 scholarships, Alabama and most other SEC teams have over signed players, often over 30. After players sign’s, they run off their mistakes once they are on campus the following summer. They will also gray shirt a few players.
But this is how Alabama has reloaded in recent years.

While this practices has not been a technical violation of NCAA rules it’s been a violation of the spirit of the rule and enough so that the SEC was finally forced to take action. I don’t remember if it started with the last class or this class, but the SEC has passed a rule that will seriously restrict the number of over signed players... Also the NCAA is going to start being punished teams for low graduation rates. Teams with low graduation rates will have scholarships and post season play restricted. For example had these rules been in place OSU would not have been able to go to the Fiesta bowl last year.

New stricter NCAA eligibility requirements are coming. They will involve tougher high school classes and higher grades. This will make it tougher on teams who have made living with players who were poor students.
In another 2 or 3 years all of this will combine to put a pretty big dent in the run that the SEC has had.

PS: Attending a big game at Alabama is a real treat to a college football fan such as myself.
But Alabama is beatable this year.

I now believe the part of this^ post about OSU not being able to go to the Fiesta bowl because of low graduation rates on their football team is a mistake on my part. I apologize.

[Snowman]

If these colleges football team graduation rates are unacceptable we might as well cancel the NCAA Basketball Tournament right now.

[bluedogok]

They have to change the "graduation rate" formula from what it has been, I know there has been talk of it over the years as much of the criteria was unfair. I know that it used to be a player had to graduate from their first school within 5 or 6 years. If a player transferred it counted the same as if someone flunked out or quit school. A player like Ryan Humphrey who transferred from OU to Notre Dame in good standing (he was always considered an excellent student) counted as a negative against OU even though he graduated from Notre Dame within the required time period. It seems to me if a player in good academic standing leaves the school whether to transfer, go pro or just to go to work it shouldn't be counted the same as a guy flunking out.

[CuatrodeMayo]

Here is some good general information on Academic Progress Rates:

Academic Progress Rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[MonkeesFan]

Why on earth would this be an either/or situation?!? And a more accurate description would probably be that he hopes for a good crowd and spends all his time preparing for the game.

I'm not trying to be insulting, but are you really young? Your posts remind of a middle schoolers... Which is finhair that's how old you are... Just curious.

Okay then

I am about to be 32 in 2 days

[ou48A]

Here is some good general information on Academic Progress Rates:

Academic Progress Rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks


I really don’t think that an athlete who leaves school early to make millions should be counted against the university’s graduation rates. Players who die, suffer from serious injury, disease or serious family hardship should also not necessarily count against the graduation rates.