Quit beggin ostate sports fans

[kwash]

Quit crying o state fans i moved to oklahoma 10 yrs ago and im sick of ostate sports fans begging for love in a state that you guys will always be number #2, and according to the rest of the country when you think of oklahoma you think of sooners. I see these post about basketball lol, lets remember ou went to elite 8 last yr, and osu has not even been to a ncaa tournament since eddie sutton. You guys are going this yr but barely and we all laugh at ou terrible basketball fans who never show up to lloyd noble, but wow look how bad its gotten at gallagher iba these last 3 yrs, empty everywhere. And football lol boone pickens can keep pumpin billions of dollars into that place but ostate still aint ever ever ever gonna sniff a championship in fotball or ever compare to the tradition of ou football. Yea yea i know you guys win championships in golf and wrestlin lol, but that gets the university zero national attention, or else boone picken would be pumpin in billions to those programs. Go anywhere outside of oklahoma, east coast or west coast it dosent matter, when you say you live in oklahoma they all say "hey boomer sooner" lol that just hurts you dont it. Just like tx tech or A&M in texas, your overshadowed and will always be in this state. Quit crying about the sports animal and other madia around here not giving you love. Win a championship in a sport that actually matters in national exposure and maybe things will change, lol wait probably not lol. People will always be saying these words that were said to me this past summer in las vegas, "hey yor from oklahoma, boomer sooner". And i wasnt even wearing a ou shirt lol.

[Wambo36]

Wow, where did that come from? It must be happy hour somewhere.

[RedDirt717]

Wow, where did that come from? It must be happy hour somewhere.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere.

[ou_juris]

Yes. Five o'clock in a trailer park. That post made me embarrassed to be a University of Oklahoma graduate. I'm guessing kwash isn't!

[colest7678]

osu has not even been to a ncaa tournament since eddie sutton.

I guess last year doesn't count.

[Spartan]

I'm also embarrassed tremendously by this thread, as an OU guy. Kwash should consider actually spending time in Norman, and he'll realize that OU has a LOT of improvement to focus on, instead of trashing other schools. Improvement that's necessary to catch up to other Big 12 schools, including OSU in my opinion (case in point: I'm over OU arch, biggest mistake of my life was going to OU).

Boomer Sooner, and Go Pokes..

[Jethrol]

This thread is proof that cousins should not have children.

[SOONER8693]

Wow, where did that come from? It must be happy hour somewhere.

They're not happy in stoolwater again today.

[mikesimpsons82]

People will always be saying these words that were said to me this past summer in las vegas, "hey yor from oklahoma, boomer sooner". And i wasnt even wearing a ou shirt lol.

I'm thinking your missing teeth and mullet probably gave it away.

[OKCisOK4me]

Here we go again. Why don't you just be a Thunder fan & embrace your fellow Oklahoman regardless of the college team in which he/she roots for. Lemme guess, you must have something against KD, too, cause he played at Texas. Grow up...

[dmoor82]

Ummmmm,this thread sux!and that pic 2 post's above about made me Ralph!

[Dave Cook]

His writing skills are tremendous.

[kevinpate]

Seriously, next time skip the computer. have a brew at Sugars or just by a patch kit for the doll.

We won't be offended if you spare everyone the pain of your loneliness.

[BG918]

Improvement that's necessary to catch up to other Big 12 schools, including OSU in my opinion (case in point: I'm over OU arch, biggest mistake of my life was going to OU).

Please elaborate..

[Spartan]

Try researching for other Big 12 architecture schools located in sub-par strip malls.

[soonerfan_in_okc]

omg guys like wtf kwash has good points k rel@x let him speak his mindd. just cuz ur not as kewl as him on the interwebs doesnt mean go h8 on him k GAWSH

[soonerfan_in_okc]

I'm also embarrassed tremendously by this thread, as an OU guy. Kwash should consider actually spending time in Norman, and he'll realize that OU has a LOT of improvement to focus on, instead of trashing other schools. Improvement that's necessary to catch up to other Big 12 schools, including OSU in my opinion (case in point: I'm over OU arch, biggest mistake of my life was going to OU).

Boomer Sooner, and Go Pokes..

OSU isn't a bad school, but you really think OU has to catch up to them academically? Please explain. In certain departments? Yes, there are a few. But the majority of OU is superior to OSU in regards to academics, and there is no refuting that. I would love to see you try however.

[oneforone]

Kwash has one thing in common with most OSU fans..... He/she has never seen the inside of a classroom on campus at OU.

If only OU had a offered a degree in Refuse Collection, Welding, Methamphetamine Production or Oil Change & Chassis Lubrication Kwash would have been there.

[kwash]

mike how did you get a picture of me, dang it i thought no one knew who i was lol. i love stirring it up in this okc talk lol. And i dont live in a trailer park i live in a mobile home park lets be politically correct here. And attend ou lol hell no i didnt i go to metro tech fools lol. Yea im talking trash who cares, laugh at the post and respond and quit crying over it

[warreng88]

mike how did you get a picture of me, dang it i thought no one knew who i was lol. i love stirring it up in this okc talk lol. And i dont live in a trailer park i live in a mobile home park lets be politically correct here. And attend ou lol hell no i didnt i go to metro tech fools lol. Yea im talking trash who cares, laugh at the post and respond and quit crying over it

Can't wait for post #13...

[cdbthunder]

I was an OU fan who used to root for OSU unless they were going up against the Sooners. Then I started working at a place with some OSU fans, although they were in the minority they let there presence be known. They hated anything to do with OU and would revel in Sooner losses regardless of the sport. This attitude put a bad taste in my mouth towards OSU and now I just return the favor and revel in any of their misfortunes.

[oneforone]

I was an OU fan who used to root for OSU unless they were going up against the Sooners. Then I started working at a place with some OSU fans, although they were in the minority they let there presence be known. They hated anything to do with OU and would revel in Sooner losses regardless of the sport. This attitude put a bad taste in my mouth towards OSU and now I just return the favor and revel in any of their misfortunes.

The same attitude takes place on Sports Animal daily from OU fans except it is not only limted to OSU.

[Spartan]

OSU isn't a bad school, but you really think OU has to catch up to them academically? Please explain. In certain departments? Yes, there are a few. But the majority of OU is superior to OSU in regards to academics, and there is no refuting that. I would love to see you try however.

You don't strike me as someone who is familiar with OU academics. Let me help you out. You're right, there are areas where OU is superior, and areas where OSU is superior. OU is clearly superior in meteorology, and petroleum engineering, esp considering OSU doesn't even offer a petro school (the Boone Pickens equivalent is OSU's geology program).

There are a number of areas where OU is absolutely abysmal, and architecture is the one I have the most familiarity with. OU's architecture school would be a joke if it wasn't such a dire situation. OSU's architecture school is Top 20 in the nation, can't imagine a bigger difference. OU's will probably lose its accreditation eventually, and their still-craptacular recently renovated Gould Hall will be empty. OSU's arch school has an absolutely amazing facility which is going to help them expand into more graduate programs, such as city planning. OU's city planning school is kind of a joke because the reality is that undergraduate city planning degrees are irrelevant, as you should go to grad school for a good job anyway and many city planning master's students come from poli sci or other humanities backgrounds.

OU journalism is getting a lot better. It doesn't offer some of the programs OSU does, and OSU is the only j-school in the state that's always been accredited. OU's facility is absolutely amazing, thanks to The Oklahoman's money, and that's going to help OU a lot. OSU's newspaper wins awards, the OU Daily..yeah right lol.

Neither school are very strong for the arts and sciences, but OU has the edge because of the law school and the medical school. OSU has recently renovated a handful of beautiful historic buildings that host their humanities programs. A lot of OU Law and OU Medical students went to OSU, but they're in the OU system for their graduate education because of the way the state legislature has set OSU up with a speciality medical school, as opposed to a comprehensive one. OU Law is generally considered inferior in Oklahoma, especially to OCU Law which is a top law school. OU Law sort of backs up the saying that "there's a law school for everyone these days."

I think agriculture is very relevant in today's technical world, and of course OSU is a top 10 ag school--I think they've capitalized on this to build a foundation for other good science curricula, as well as engineering. Lots of engineering research is done at OSU, believe it or not. I think the two are on even footing for engineering, and both have strong programs, but OU's engineering classes for the most part take place in facilities that aren't very nice, one difference from OSU. This is starting to change though with Devon Hall and the new Engineering Practice Facility in Norman.

As for business, OU is much superior although OSU has some very dynamic business graduate programs. I think overall OSU is a much better grad school (ironic when you compare their "missions") because of the narrowness and small number of programs OU offers. It's also worth noting that a friend of mine in OSU arch showed me some impressive new designs recently for OSU's new business school that they're building. I like OU's better because they did a beautiful restoration of a historic building, but that's just me. It has more of an Ivy League-caliber feel to it.

As far as college towns go, obviously Norman is a better college town. It's much classier. I don't think Norman is on quite the "upward trajectory" that Stillwater is (being the state's fastest-growing small town and all), but I think Stillwater is too sprawled out and suburban. Downtown Norman and Campus Corner have immaculate streetscapes, and Boyd Street is just a very classy, elegant "scene" altogether. Of course it's more influenced by the Greek scene at OU, whereas OSU is more GDI--and the result in my opinion is that Norman is just head and shoulders classier. Fiji represent. It's also indicative of the arts scene that's alive and well in Norman, as opposed to the arts scene that's undergrand and badly fostered in Stillwater. OU's dance school, music school, drama school, art program, etc etc.. people would be very shocked to see how top-notch these programs are. OU also has the top university arts museum. OSU's offerings here are just not as good, but I suspect a new arts campus with a new PAC and a new art museum are on the way--I've been to Mesa Vista, TX before and seen T. Boone's art collection, which is reportedly the largest private collection of American art in the world (larger than the largest public collection at the Gilcrease in Tulsa).

I think from a campus residential life perspective though, Norman is beyond inferior to Stillwater. OU's dorms suck. The worst dorms at OSU are still a lot nicer than the typical OU dorm. I had to live in Walker and I HATED it, and sleeping in was impossible because they were doing renovations on the residential commie blocks that always started promptly at 8 am.. OSU dorms come in different varieties, unlike OU dorms. You can chose from several historic, renovated, upscale halls, you can chose cheepo commie blocks, or you can chose brand-new urban townhome-style units, or brand-new suburban apartment-style units. Off-campus most of the old rental houses are well-cared for and not falling apart like in Nompton. Norman does offer more stylish "urban living" options for high-end students, such as downtown lofts and the new condos going up on Boyd Street, but Stillwater already has something very very similar to the 401 Lofts project.

And athletically, we all have our own spin on the Sooners v. the Cowboys. But I will say this: My post isn't intended as, "I was a Sooner, I have experience here, I hated it, here's why you should all be against OU." This post is intended as, "I was a Sooner, I always will be a Sooner, and guys, we have some work to do." Take it as Berry Switzer's statements he made after touring Stillwater's amazing new athletic facilities, where he said it should strike fear deep in the heart of every Sooner. Do you think he's turning against us and rooting for the Pokes? Of course not! But he has seen first-hand that OSU is really getting their act together. OSU's gargantuan alumni giving (esp compared to OU alumni giving) has given OSU something it hasn't had in a long time thanks to the biased legislature, and that's money. They've got a strong vision, a strong leader in Burns Hargis, and all I have to say is watch out..

OU also has a strong leader in David Boren, but he will probably only be around another 5 years. Do we really want to give our school to Brad Henry?? NO!! If we let Brad Henry become the new president, the Norman campus had might as well just become OSU-Nompton or UNT-OK.

[mugofbeer]

Hey, T Bone Pickens is supposedly giving OSU another $100 million for academics. No matter how you slice it, thats a pretty good chunk of change and could make a significant difference in the quality of academics at OSU. Money draws better profs and better profs draw higher achieving students.

As an OU grad I applaud this action and hope OSU can improve its academics just like I hope OU continues to do the same. Oklahoma deserves two great research universities and these types of monetary gifts can do a huge amount.

[Spartan]

I believe T. Boone's total gift to OSU is now almost $600 mil, most of which actually went to academics.

Earlier this month Baylor even got a $200 million gift from an anonymous alumni donor.
Baylor to use alum's $200M gift to study old people | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

A few years ago UT-Austin got a $245 million gift, also mentioned in the Baylor story.

Where is OU's benefactor? When is OU going to pull a fundraising home-run like this? OU keeps talking about how small gifts from more people is worth more than large gifts from a few, but that doesn't cut it because it's not like OSU, Baylor, and UT's everyday alums aren't giving back what they can either. I would even say everyday OU alums are stingier than OSU and especially Baylor's (which has an incredibly large endowment for a small private school).