OKC Mayor Race 2014

[tomokc]

has a candidate ever run a whole hog campaign canvassing all gazillion square miles of the town? Is he the first swarthy toned person to run?

Cornett has only to let his fingers do the walking by pointing to his many accomplishments as mayor.

You're defending Ed being "swarthy toned" by saying that he's not the first? Heaven help the campaign if you're in charge of writing bumper sticker slogans!

I was about to put you on "ignore" last week, but I'm glad that I didn't.

[soonerguru]

Sure Shadid has some flaws- be interesting to see how much they impact his appeal to all the folks unrepresented by the chamber mayor. has a candidate ever run a whole hog campaign canvassing all gazillion square miles of the town? Is he the first swarthy toned person to run?

It's been a while, but the last "real" race was between Tolbert and Cornett. In order to win, Shadid needed the votes of "anti-Chamber" urbanites and right wing, anti-MAPS type voters. I think current events will make it difficult for him to pull many conservative votes.

[hoya]

Cornett has only to let his fingers do the walking by pointing to his many accomplishments as mayor.

You're defending Ed being "swarthy toned" by saying that he's not the first? Heaven help the campaign if you're in charge of writing bumper sticker slogans!

I was about to put you on "ignore" last week, but I'm glad that I didn't.

Edgar is too fun to put on ignore.

[Midtowner]

Sure Shadid has some flaws- be interesting to see how much they impact his appeal to all the folks unrepresented by the chamber mayor. has a candidate ever run a whole hog campaign canvassing all gazillion square miles of the town? Is he the first swarthy toned person to run?

What in the hell?

Just what in the hell?

"Swarthy toned"--this is just so much of the


we've all come to expect from Shadid supporters. What even the hell?

"Chamber mayor." Can you demonstrate to us how many of Shadid's bright ideas would generate revenue and not create these dastardly unfunded liabilities we keep hearing so much about? Is a Chinese company going to build a factory in OKC because we have decent bus benches? Is Devon going to not relocate to Houston because diversity? Because diversity.

Fiddlesticks.

Can you even articulate (outside of fancy bus benches and new unfunded bus routes) what Shadid is even about besides being for MAPS III before he was against it, but now he's for it again (we think?). Can you tell me how a coalition of disaffected/Tea Party/police and fire unions/liberals are going to all be very happy and not disappointed at all with Shadid as mayor? Can you explain how a mayor is going to be effective when he goes to work with a council which knows him for being a deceitful SOB (except Greiner who apparently doesn't really know what is happening and is just along for a fun ride)? Nope?

I'm not even sure why you continue to post--don't get me wrong, it's nice that you like to set up your strawman for us to knock down over and over, but I'm not sure it helps Shadid one bit to see a Normanite pledging his blind (but irrelevant!) loyalty on the internet. Concern yourself with Norman city politics. I hear that's interesting as well and I do know personally of a few colorful characters who are very active in those parts. There's plenty of fun for you at home.

[betts]

Sure Shadid has some flaws- be interesting to see how much they impact his appeal to all the folks unrepresented by the chamber mayor. has a candidate ever run a whole hog campaign canvassing all gazillion square miles of the town? Is he the first swarthy toned person to run?

Swarthy??? Let's not imply that he's somehow a minority in a city where "poor Lebanese" is an oxymoron. Flaws?? You've ignored the fact that he lies, ignored the fact that he doesn't play fair with his peers, ignored the fact that he has no plans to support his agenda. Those are excellent reasons why he shouldn't be mayor from a political standpoint so I guess it's no surprise that you see this extremely unbecoming (and illegal) behavior in a physician and human being as "flaws".

And again, I'm a fairly liberal democrat who is very happy voting for Mayor Cornett. There are some things I'm going to ask him to promote during his next term, particularly an improved transit system. But when the progressives are supporting Cornett over Shadid, you'd better take a hard look at why, if you consider yourself progressive.

[kevinpate]

Ha ha. LOL. Lets drug test them all anyway. What are you afraid of?

FWIW, without any consideration to the current OKC mayor race, it would not bother me if those running for elected office, any elected office, muni, county, state or federal had to submit to drug testing within 24 hours of filing, 24 hours of taking office, and one or two random tests each year in office.

After all, we now test a passle of poor folk sans any suspicion.

[Midtowner]

Kevin, I don't know, but I'd wager you've had a few of your clients report to ICS for a UA (you're in Cleveland County, IIRC). It is a grossly humiliating experience, although necessary to prevent devices such as the Wizzinator The Whizzinator Touch - The Most Realistic Synthetic Urine System Device by Alternative Lifestyle Systems from being used. The male or female test subject gets to drop trou, hold their shirt up so their stomach is exposed and then get the urine flowing while being observed by an observer of the appropriate gender. I for one probably wouldn't want to run because I wouldn't want to subject myself to that.

[David]

Holy crap, a chance at a swarthy toned mayor. My mind is changed.

[betts]

Maybe Mick should consider a spray tan.

[Dubya61]

You have a link to the article? I'll write it again.

Here's the "politics" section: http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-politics, but the whole site stinks of politics.
Here's the article itself (I think): http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dir...-shadid-issues, but I see comments on it now, and there is one in particular by phialpha31.
Sorry, if I'm late to the party.

[soonerguru]

Dubya, The big article is in the ok gazette.

[mkjeeves]

FWIW, without any consideration to the current OKC mayor race, it would not bother me if those running for elected office, any elected office, muni, county, state or federal had to submit to drug testing within 24 hours of filing, 24 hours of taking office, and one or two random tests each year in office.

After all, we now test a passle of poor folk sans any suspicion.

It's been talked about before. The city has an employee drug testing program AFAIK. Why do the employees at the top get a pass?

John Parker • Modified: January 20, 1993 at 12:00 am • Published: January 20, 1993

Proponents of drug testing for Oklahoma City Council members are donning a holier-than-thou attitude over what is basically a "few cc's of pee pee," Ward 7 Councilman Goree James said Tuesday.

The council deferred a drug-testing proposal one week after members wrangled over whether they should voluntarily submit to drug screening. Ward 3 Councilman Jack Cornett posed the idea in a resolution.

City Council Delays Drug-Testing Proposal | News OK

That was voluntary. Should be mandatory. If it's not needed because people won't take the job, maybe we need to consider the same about the rest of the city workers.

[soonerguru]

Swarthy??? Let's not imply that he's somehow a minority in a city where "poor Lebanese" is an oxymoron. Flaws?? You've ignored the fact that he lies, ignored the fact that he doesn't play fair with his peers, ignored the fact that he has no plans to support his agenda. Those are excellent reasons why he shouldn't be mayor from a political standpoint so I guess it's no surprise that you see this extremely unbecoming (and illegal) behavior in a physician and human being as "flaws".

And again, I'm a fairly liberal democrat who is very happy voting for Mayor Cornett. There are some things I'm going to ask him to promote during his next term, particularly an improved transit system. But when the progressives are supporting Cornett over Shadid, you'd better take a hard look at why, if you consider yourself progressive.

Edgar can't even vote in this election as he's not an OKC resident. His role is "astroturfing" for Shadid on here by trying to change the conversation from things that make Ed Shadid look bad, like the huge Gazette article that broke last night. He's possibly getting paid for his efforts or is a campaign volunteer.

[mkjeeves]

It does look like we got a few words from our "worldwide ambassador" for Oklahoma City as Mick called him.*

Added to the gazette story apparently sometime after the original post...

In a text to Oklahoma Gazette late Sunday night, Coyne clarified what he said: “It was just a silly remark. No I've never smoked pot with Mayor Cornett and I don't think he smokes pot. But, I think he is open minded and has progressive solutions for lower income families in OKC and perhaps he will consider the outdated marihuana laws, and their impact on our families and community in his next term.”

Doesn't change my position on a testing program for the mayor, the council and anyone else working for the city.

*What does that say about Mick's judgement?

[kevinpate]

Kevin, I don't know, but I'd wager you've had a few of your clients report to ICS for a UA (you're in Cleveland County, IIRC). It is a grossly humiliating experience, although necessary to prevent devices such as the Wizzinator The Whizzinator Touch - The Most Realistic Synthetic Urine System Device by Alternative Lifestyle Systems from being used. The male or female test subject gets to drop trou, hold their shirt up so their stomach is exposed and then get the urine flowing while being observed by an observer of the appropriate gender. I for one probably wouldn't want to run because I wouldn't want to subject myself to that.

Yes, it is Mid. And yes, it is even worse if someone is physically infirm in some manner and/or also relies on a device in their body due to a medical condition.

But then again, it is the same form of testing for someone who seeks public assistance, and for many in the public sector and in the private sector who endure pre-employment testing and subsequent random testing as a condition of continued employment. Perhaps if more politicos had a truly working up close and personal knowledge of the process so easily pressed onto a large part of the populace, a better process, or a more limited process might come into existence.

[Midtowner]

Yes, it is Mid. And yes, it is even worse if someone is physically infirm in some manner and/or also relies on a device in their body due to a medical condition.

But then again, it is the same form of testing for someone who seeks public assistance, and for many in the public sector and in the private sector who endure pre-employment testing and subsequent random testing as a condition of continued employment. Perhaps if more politicos had a truly working up close and personal knowledge of the process so easily pressed onto a large part of the populace, a better process, or a more limited process might come into existence.

Thing is, ICS and SOS (and the Courthouse lab) are pretty solid collection centers. Others? Not so much. I did take a UA one time around 15 years ago for a retail job. I took my cup into the bathroom and that was that. No trouble at all. Some of these more criminal justice inclined sites though...well, your mileage may vary. We'll just leave it at that.

Drug testing for any reason other than child custody or as part of a rehab program or criminal case type reasons is just unnecessary.

[tomokc]

Drug testing for any reason other than child custody or as part of a rehab program or criminal case type reasons is just unnecessary.

Pilot? (My apologies if I took your remark out of context.)

[Midtowner]

Pilot? (My apologies if I took your remark out of context.)

Amended:

Ok. Drug testing for any reason other than child custody or as part of a rehab program or criminal case or public safety type reasons is just unnecessary.

[Dubya61]

I know I'm veering off topic, but I'd like to see drug testing for politicians (and almost anybody who draws a check from the government on any level) for an ulterior motive. I don't think that marijuana (pot, weed, herb -- choose how you wish to sound cool about the substance) is anything worse than alcohol and should be legalized. Maybe if there were the threat of more detection it would come closer to legalization. Also, maybe if it was more expensive to test for marijuana in addition to drugs that we can agree are more dangerous, it would be in the public interest to legalize marijuana.

[Bellaboo]

It does look like we got a few words from our "worldwide ambassador" for Oklahoma City as Mick called him.*

Added to the gazette story apparently sometime after the original post...

In a text to Oklahoma Gazette late Sunday night, Coyne clarified what he said: “It was just a silly remark. No I've never smoked pot with Mayor Cornett and I don't think he smokes pot. But, I think he is open minded and has progressive solutions for lower income families in OKC and perhaps he will consider the outdated marihuana laws, and their impact on our families and community in his next term.”

Doesn't change my position on a testing program for the mayor, the council and anyone else working for the city.

*What does that say about Mick's judgement?

And to think you were taking Coyne's word as a blood oath on this ? LOL

[Steve]

Midtowner, question for you (being an attorney and definitely not a shrill for The Oklahoman): Would the sealing of testimony concerning a doctor's use of narcotics while in practice prevent those suing him for malpractice from discovering this information as part of their lawsuits?

[mkjeeves]

And to think you were taking Coyne's word as a blood oath on this ? LOL

Cite? I never said it was correct or that I believed it. In fact at one point I said the opposite, he was too nerdy to be a pot smoker.

I always said it should have been followed up on, particularly by some of the press who still haven't mentioned it, The Daily Oklahoman, who makes a point of targeting who they are politically against, and at the same time have a hand off approach to Mick in particular and their other buddies.

Seems like you rarely care for the topic or facts and more about the people who post. At least that's the way you direct your comments. Got anything to say on the topic?

More to the point, do you think this Ed hunt and kill was all done from a place of 100% pure journalistic integrity?

[onthestrip]

FWIW, without any consideration to the current OKC mayor race, it would not bother me if those running for elected office, any elected office, muni, county, state or federal had to submit to drug testing within 24 hours of filing, 24 hours of taking office, and one or two random tests each year in office.

After all, we now test a passle of poor folk sans any suspicion.

During the drug test welfare recipients debate at the capitol one Dem proposed the idea that if you test welfare recipients then it only makes sense to test lawmakers as well and maybe they suggested testing anyone who receives any government assistance or even a tax credit. I thought it was a good idea, not sure why we ask more from the poor than other people who benefit off of govt.

[soonerguru]

It is funny that Shadid himself brought up Coyne's comments as if they were credible. Hilarious, actually.

[Bellaboo]

Cite? I never said it was correct or that I believed it. In fact at one point I said the opposite, he was too nerdy to be a pot smoker.

I always said it should have been followed up on, particularly by some of the press who still haven't mentioned it, The Daily Oklahoman, who makes a point of targeting who they are politically against, and at the same time have a hand off approach to Mick in particular and their other buddies.

Seems like you rarely care for the topic or facts and more about the people who post. At least that's the way you direct your comments. Got anything to say on the topic?

I've posted plenty on the topic, but when people like you that have a vendatta against the DOK, keep your own attacks up then it gets out of hand. I post about a lot of the idiotic comments coming from the Ed campaign....

Go re-read your post about your insinuation of Mayor Mick smoking pot.....? It's out there in the previous 10 pages or so.
Your evidence was something WC said at a news years eve party...