OKC Mayor Race 2014

[yukong]

I have no idea. I think this is bad, though, because Shadid was trying to explain this away as a marijuana addiction, when it would seem he has practiced medicine while high. But I'm not convinced that's all there is to this saga. Reread yukong's post. Apparently there is more sealed than we currently know.

Reread the RDR. They even say that he refused to give them the divorce file. He just gave them the deposition that wasn't even sealed. He is still hiding something. And I would say he has not been forthcoming with the truth. He made the argument all last week that he was trying to keep his kids from learning about his MJ. But that isn't apparently what is sealed. So...there is more to this that he is trying to hide. I'm troubled that this guy is even in the picture, let alone on the council and running for mayor.

[soonerguru]

Reread the RDR. They even say that he refused to give them the divorce file. He just gave them the deposition that wasn't even sealed. He is still hiding something. And I would say he has not been forthcoming with the truth. He made the argument all last week that he was trying to keep his kids from learning about his MJ. But that isn't apparently what is sealed. So...there is more to this that he is trying to hide. I'm troubled that this guy is even in the picture, let alone on the council and running for mayor.

So you're saying the deposition, which the RDR used as the basis for its report, is something the Oklahoman already has?

[Urban Pioneer]

As I have said for some time, Ed's supporters don't know who this guy really is.

Oklahoma Gazette News: Ed Shadid's divorce records

[LakeEffect]

As I have said for some time, Ed's supporters don't know who this guy really is.

Oklahoma Gazette News: Ed Shadid's divorce records

I was about to post this link as well...

Also, of note, the Gazette really hits the Oklahoman hard on their coverage of the issue. My one question is this - they note how the Oklahoman hasn't followed up on Coyne's claim that the Mayor smokes pot at home. Does anyone really think Coyne was being serious in the first place? The Mayor just seems so... square...

[soonerguru]

kaBOOM. And this is probably not all.

[kevinpate]

... The Mayor just seems so... square...

But, but, but, isn't that still hip?

[mkjeeves]

I was about to post this link as well...

Also, of note, the Gazette really hits the Oklahoman hard on their coverage of the issue. My one question is this - they note how the Oklahoman hasn't followed up on Coyne's claim that the Mayor smokes pot at home. Does anyone really think Coyne was being serious in the first place? The Mayor just seems so... square...

Batter up. It's their turn. I wonder who Mick's barber is and where they put the clippings? I still think we need to drug test the mayor and everyone on the council.

[LakeEffect]

Batter up. It's their turn. I wonder who Mick's barber is and where they put the clippings? I still think we need to drug test the mayor and everyone on the council.

Guilty until proven innocent?

[mkjeeves]

Guilty until proven innocent?

That's not what the law says about employee drug testing. A measure was presented to the council in the past to require it. Don't think they passed it. Surprise surprise. I'm pretty sure it's required in Tulsa, at least their measure got farther than ours AFAIK.

[soonerguru]

Here is the lede:

Oklahoma City Councilman and mayoral candidate Ed Shadid snorted cocaine on two occasions, chose pornography over marital intimacy and became violent with his wife before entering an addiction treatment center, according to sealed divorce records reviewed by Oklahoma Gazette.

Oklahoma Gazette News: Ed Shadid's divorce records

[Urban Pioneer]

I must say if his commitment to continue on doesn't adequately reflect the megalomania several of us observed after the Ward 2 campaign and tried to explain, I don't know what does.


Running for office is probably one of the most selfish things any individual can do. Everybody has skeletons and makes mistakes. But when you run, be prepared for your entire family, friends, and past history to be called out. If his primary concern was his children, it is doubtful in my mind that he would have run and continue his pledge to do so.

[soonerguru]

Batter up. It's their turn. I wonder who Mick's barber is and where they put the clippings? I still think we need to drug test the mayor and everyone on the council.

Well now we know Shadid was lying on TV. Per the Gazette, Shadid was advised by his attorney not to answer questions about "marijuana OR COCAINE USE."

So Shadid was lying on TV. No surprise there.

[betts]

Wow. I just read the story on the McCarville Report. He's finished. He should drop out of the race tomorrow. Period.

Betts, I would normally agree with you about not caring what's in his past, records, etc. But - he lied. Just like he lied about finishing MAPS. I really think he'll drop out of the race. Covering-up personal crap in politics these days is just stupid - it's going to get out. He's just a joke now (even more so than before).

He's actually lied or at least embroidered the truth multiple times. If I had any skeletons in my closet, I'd stay out of politics. Or at least, I wouldn't run for office. It all comes out nowadays. But I'd heard a bunch of this before from some of his more distant relatives. I just had no proof so didn't say anything.

[mkjeeves]

Apparently. You abuse your wife, do cocaine, and try very hard to cover up your past, you get a pass. Or rather, you just deflect and claim the Mayor must have a past too (absent any evidence).

Who gave him a pass? He just struck out.

Next batter. Don't you think one of these ace reporters should actually stick a mic in mick and waynes mugs and ask them about the elephant in the room?

Better. Drug test the mayor and council on a regular basis. What are you afraid of?

[mkjeeves]

It's all good. I thought you were out defending him.

No matter. He's probably done now and we can move on to debating subjects we both care about again.

On no we don't. We need an answer on the mick and wayne controversy. What are you afraid of?

[mkjeeves]

Ed tried to laugh it all off too.

[yukong]

Well...we now know he lied. He said it was all about marihuana. Well, that...and cocaine, domestic violence, (in front of the kids) pornography addiction, and doing rounds at the hospital while high. He was operating on patients...neuro surgery nonetheless, while addicted to marihuana and dabbling in cocaine. Wow...what a guy. Talk about severe judgment issues. I'm glad he got help, and I hope he is sober and stays that way. But, I would never go to him for spinal surgery. And I don't want someone who has demonstrated such a lack of judgment leading my great city.

And...as to Mick and the Wayne C...I wouldn't ask anyone to respond to something that clown spouted at a concert. Probably while high himself. A real source of solid information. LOL.

[mkjeeves]

Ha ha. LOL. Lets drug test them all anyway. What are you afraid of?

[yukong]

Ha ha. LOL. Lets drug test them all anyway. What are you afraid of?

Nothing. Go for it. But I'll bet I can safely say that if Mick did/has/does MJ, I'll bet he didn't do it while performing spinal surgeries. To me, this issue isn't about someone doing MJ occasionally. It's about the judgment involved in doing drugs while engaging in jobs where you are placing others lives at risk. That is horrible judgment. It's not a stretch to ask...were any patients adversely effected by his drug addiction? In fact...it's a question I hope gets asked.

[soonerguru]

While we are at it, I think we should ask all the people who have seen UFO's lately if they've seen our Mayor doing pot. You know, just in case they can shed some light on the subject.

Back in the real world, the question is, will Ed 1) leave the race? 2) Leave his seat voluntarily? 3) Get recalled? (successfully or unsuccessfully) or 4) Stay and be electable at the next term?

Prediction, knowing Ed quite well.

1) He will stay in the race, 2) He will not leave his seat voluntarily, 3) the threshold for recall is very high in OKC, and 4) he will run again and will not be electable.

Another question: Will the FOP withdraw their support? Are they cool with a guy who admits he flew to vegas and did blow? Who just lied to everyone on OKC on television?

[zookeeper]

Prediction, knowing Ed quite well.

1) He will stay in the race, 2) He will not leave his seat voluntarily, 3) the threshold for recall is very high in OKC, and 4) he will run again and will not be electable.

I agree with this 100% unless he gets serious pressure from certain family members.

[yukong]

+1

[mkjeeves]

Okay man! I know who I'm not inviting to the party. LOL. Goodnight!

[soonerguru]

Again, is there any chance the FOP will withdraw their endorsement?

[LakeEffect]

Again, is there any chance the FOP will withdraw their endorsement?

That's a very interesting question. My guess is no - they might campaign less, but they'll probably issue a statement that he's been through treatment, it works, and they support things like that...