Edge Craft BBQ

[RedDollar]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

[David]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

Oh yeah, you can always trust employers to do well for their employees and there is zero history if that relationship not working out. Brilliant minds here for sure.

[BoulderSooner]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

this is basically the entire job of the DOL wage and hour division

[FighttheGoodFight]

And I am sure they got tipped off by an employee.

[ManAboutTown]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

Maybe the man should just pay his employees in scrip that they can spend in the Edge Craft BBQ company store?

My coal-mining ancestors in Appalachia had the misfortune of working under a system like that for generations so, ummm, NO.

[SpaceGuy]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

booooo

[catcherinthewry]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

That's some real "Oldman Yells at Cloud" energy you got going there.

[Plutonic Panda]

So this is what our Federal Government has evolved into. Go stomping into some tiny business, that has 5 or 6 employees and telling the owner how to compensate his employees. Deciding who can be paid a salary and who is hourly.

I've noticed the tip can at the register. Never tipped. Why, for what ? For putting beans on my plate in an excellent way ? Just get rid of the tip can and problem solved.

This is between Zach Edge and his employees. No one is forcing anyone to work for him. Surely the DOL has bigger fish to fry, but then, I'm not sure why we need a DOL.

+1 just like able

[Plutonic Panda]

That's some real "Oldman Yells at Cloud" energy you got going there.

Sure it is not the other way around?

[bison34]

Well, then they've over stepped their bounds.

Time to get rid of them.

So employees of smaller companies like this don't deserve fair wages and treatment like those at the big companies? Got it!

[RedDollar]

So employees of smaller companies like this don't deserve fair wages and treatment like those at the big companies? Got it!

You don't know that. He could've been paying them a good wage where they don't need tips.

[goldenHurricane22]

I really don't want to get involved more in this discussion. But one point I do want to add is that there was a period of time where Edge Craft was doing mandatory tips (I would have to look back at some of my receipts to see what the percentage was, something like 10-15% automatically added at the end of each purchase), with a note posted saying it was to cover higher operating expenses. So, that could be playing a role in all this.

[RedDollar]

I really don't want to get involved more in this discussion. But one point I do want to add is that there was a period of time where Edge Craft was doing mandatory tips (I would have to look back at some of my receipts to see what the percentage was, something like 10-15% automatically added at the end of each purchase), with a note posted saying it was to cover higher operating expenses. So, that could be playing a role in all this.

I never saw that. Its just your word.

[RedDollar]

I would guess, that its really hard for him to get help.

He's open four days a week. And its 11 am until he sells out.

Maybe hourly wage is not the way for him to get help . ya think.

But hey, I know a bunch of backyard barbecue people who would work for him for free, to learn.

[goldenHurricane22]

Ah, looks like it was a 12% service fee that was automatically applied, not a tip. But looks like this would have been around 2022 based on the dates on this (hopefully attaching this works), so probably not relevant to these series of events.

Also, I no way agree with this reviewer (I think Edge Craft is the best tasting BBQ I've had in the metro), more wanting to highlight the words from the ownership.

[RedDollar]

Ah, looks like it was a 12% service fee that was automatically applied, not a tip. But looks like this would have been around 2022 based on the dates on this (hopefully attaching this works), so probably not relevant to these series of events.

Also, I no way agree with this reviewer (I think Edge Craft is the best tasting BBQ I've had in the metro), more wanting to highlight the words from the ownership.

And which employee was that suppose to go to ?

[RedDollar]

Hey people, if someone is putting prime Creekstone brisket on a 1K propane smoker, using post oak, in OKC .............then I'm gonna pay, whatever I gotta pay.

If you want cheap barbecue, go to Leo's . Or Jacks. Or Earls.

Good barbecue ain't cheap, not matter what the Federal DOL might think. Which, the DOL has no clue about good barbecue.

[Will Dearborn]

But hey, I know a bunch of backyard barbecue people who would work for him for free, to learn.

Sure, there's so much free labor out there he commits payroll violations for the hell of it.

[bison34]

You don't know that. He could've been paying them a good wage where they don't need tips.

I can GUARANTEE you it was not a paying customer who filed a complaint with the DOL...

[RedDollar]

I can GUARANTEE you it was not a paying customer who filed a complaint with the DOL...

Hey, there's plenty of cheap barbecue elsewhere. .............. so go get it .................and leave Zach alone.

[SpaceGuy]

Hey, there's plenty of cheap barbecue elsewhere. .............. so go get it .................and leave Zach alone.

bro it’s not about the barbecue it’s about the fact that he stole SEVENTY THOUSAND dollars from his employees!!!!

[Jersey Boss]

Don't get the thread shut down due to being egged on.
The ignore option works

[catcherinthewry]

Don't get the thread shut down due to being egged on.
The ignore option works

Yep

[Mballard85]

You don't know that. He could've been paying them a good wage where they don't need tips.

If only there was an orginization who could come in and look into that. Ohhhhh wait.

[Pete]

Zach Edge has been reading this thread and wanted me to post this statement on his behalf:

“Over two years ago, during our first year of operation as new business owners, we misinterpreted Department of Labor (DOL) employee wage regulations. Though our employees were making above industry standard and well over minimum wage at that time - including receiving 100% of tips - we were applying DOL regulations incorrectly. Once we understood our mistakes, we immediately took responsibility and corrected the errors. We’ve committed to a payment plan with DOL. We continue to focus on providing a great workplace for our employees and excellent, small-batch barbeque for our Edge Craft patrons.”