And, she isn't due anything (except the disdain I have for racists such as her).
And, she isn't due anything (except the disdain I have for racists such as her).
People who represent themselves have a bad reputation. First, it means they’re either too cheap to pay an attorney, or they think they can do a better job than an attorney. Neither of these traits endear these folks to attorneys. If they do end up hiring a lawyer, they are notoriously difficult clients, second-guessing everything their lawyer says or does and then getting angry that it costs so much, or that it isn’t like they saw on TV.
They generally don’t understand the law, but they think they do, and when a judge rules against them they get mad. They will miss any legal issue that has any degree of subtlety, and they’ve spent so much time convincing themselves that their argument is sound, that they come to the conclusion that the judge must be biased. Good luck convincing them that they blew whatever shot they had because they don’t know what they’re doing.
So, no. Nobody here is going to represent her.
Very well said.
Look Dude, I'm certainly not going to argue the merits of my cases or try to convince you of anything. I don’t know what to say if you claimed you’ve read most of my pleadings other than you have way too much time on your hands to be concerned about me. I know how long my dockets are in all 3 of my cases and I doubt very seriously if you read everything you claim. I do know I could’ve saved you a bunch of time directing you to 3-12-18 McGuire’s amended vol. 4a appendix explaining level of corruption McGuire committed beginning 4-1-15.
I had an attorneys, who are my friends, during all of my divorce who couldn't enforce Orders either; Carl was Ordered in both T.O. and Final Orders to pay for my house and my vehicle refusing to do so from the get go. I lost my son to alienation when Carl was Pro Se when I had counsel, so there's a hell of a lot more going on than meets the eye than just by looking at the docket.
Are you talking about Bret Glenn being such a bang up attorney? I paid him 3500.00 and within a month he bailed after (1) hearing in front of McGuire and (2) in front of Timmons cuz he didn’t believe me when I hired him McGuire was blocking both sets of Orders; so I’m not a big fan of him taking my money and running unable to do the job.
It’s a bit comical that you think because I’m not an attorney I’m unable to comprehend how to draft and file contempt information, set it on the docket, have Judge sign Contempt Citation and arraign Carl and have a trial. I can tell your one of those people who think Pro Se are illiterate and cannot possibly understand Statutes, case law or civil rules of procedure just because we do not hold a law degree. I promise you none of those are hard to understand; you guys don’t have some harry potter secret key code with only you guys can unlock the secrets of our Laws, Rules and procedure like some of you think you do.
Nah, I’m pretty sure Truong would sue me if it wasn’t true what I’ve said and it wouldn’t be for money either. She’s pretty upset about it and continues to this day to threaten to sue me, along with harassed me 3 times over my protest. As a sitting Judge she sat in front of the courthouse after work one day stalking me and recording me for 1 ½ hours.
You seemed to miss the point that I watched Truong and Henderson for 4 months in his court carry on like neither were married, nor Judges. Multi attorneys and courthouse people have confirmed Truong banging attorneys. Yes, there is something horribly wrong with judges screwing each other or attorneys called moral turpitude. 1. Judges take an Oath to be judicial on the bench and off. 2. Truong and Henderson were married and not to each other. 3. It affects the outcome of justice when Judges are banging attorneys who litigate in their courts.
It is my God given Right to say anything I want to about Natalie Mai or any thing else that I believe is true. So per your Oath you support my right to Freedom of Speech just as long as I don't say something you don't like, then I'm wrong? Is that about right? Mai doesn’t even live in OK CO dude, but that was ok with you that now she's one of our Judges.
If I don’t want non american born Asians controlling my government after Japanese bombed pearl harbor dragging the U.S. into WWII, where both my grandfathers fought to protect their future granddaughters rights to freedom, with one giving his life for, then guess what? They gave me the right to do that by their bravery, blood and loss of life. Also, Vietnam was a pointless senseless 19 year bull**** war we shouldn’t have even been in the middle of. Which your Oath removes your right to harass me over that I reminded you of, yet here you are still are going on about it when your comments should have ended.
Since you obviously don’t honor your Oath, then you’re also probably one of those attorneys that look at other people misery as a way to make a buck; there is a reason your profession is the only one who is the butt of every other joke made by self-inflicted reputation. Which is why I have the opinion, that although we do have some very good attorneys and wonderful courthouse people, most of you guys and most of the Courthouse people are part of the problem that contributes to the corruption in our Courts by not standing up making our Judges accountable or actually running against Judges to change things.
Further it’s not any of you guys who I‘m talking to or speaking up for in my protest that’s now on social media at [Timesup.2.StopOklahomaCountyCourtCorruption]; [Timesup.2.SOCCC] or [Givem.hell.kathy.2.0]. It’s the people of Oklahoma County who suffer under the tyranny of our Courts corruption for way too long that you guys let get that way. At the end of the day it’s just you guys jobs that you make money on when it’s our lives that are being affected.
I'd really appreciate it if this was the end of this thread about me.
Mr. Bates,
What is occurring in your life that you have nothing better to do than talk about me? Seriously dude, get a life and stop harassing me!
You’re just missing the point all the way around that I’m going to say one more time. Unless you got your license outta of a cracker jack box, which I’m thinking you did. You took an Oath to support, obey and defend our Constitutions. Which means by your Oath you must support my Right to Freedom of Speech, which also means you don’t get to harass me about my Freedom of speech or anything else for that matter; harassment is a crime.
You have absolutely no right to pass judgment upon me when you’ve obviously a jerk and shows what kind of a sorry excuse for a man you are and an attorney you are.
You have the nerve to call me racist, when you’re harassing me making snide comments that I lost my SUV when per your Oath as an Attorney you’re supposed to obey Court Orders; guess you don’t know that rule either [5O.S.Ch.1§3]. Yes, I get it’s not you actually failing to enforce them, but just the fact alone that you just disregard Orders I’ve had since 2012 my house and car are paid for I can’t get enforced and instead of bringing you pause, you’re making fun of it like a spoiled little brat is plain stupid, especially when I haven’t done jack to you.
Maybe your one of those Attorney’s banging Truong and why you’re taking such offense?
You can have disdain for racist if that’s what you think about me, but I have disdain for stupid people because you can’t fix stupid.
Just who were you spreading your words of wisdom for? Your other attorney friends who don’t need to hear your Pro Se opinons? Or was it for me cause you know I read the crap you’ve been writing about me? I think for me, which again is harassment.
For you to think any person would want to be Pro Se instead of having an attorney represent them in our corrupt Courts because “they are too cheap to pay an attorney” or “think they can do a better job than an attorney” “or isn’t like on TV” is just plain stupid.
It is fricking hard to be Pro Se and although it’s our Right to be Pro Se, our Courts are Pro Se prejudice; just as you just proved with your stupidity.
It’s also stupid that you think Pro Se have a bad reputation; your profession is the only one who is the butt of every other joke with your self-inflicted reputation and the only profession who make money off other people’s misery.
Why would you even flatter yourself in thinking or saying that I would even want you to represent me?
Let me enlighten your stupidity; people are forced to exercise their Pro Se rights because they don’t have the money to pay what you guys charge; a person can save their life with a doctor cheaper than hiring an attorney.
Further, we don’t have the privilege of going to any attorney who is a good Attorney because unfortunately searching for a good attorney is the proverbial needle in a haystack.
Instead we are plagued mostly by every Tom, Dick and Harry throwing up a shingle just cause they managed to pass law school who aren’t worth a damn as an attorney; we have so many bad attorneys the courts blame the people for having multiple attorneys when if we were just simply are afforded all good attorneys to pick from, then we wouldn’t be forced to have multiple attorneys.
I’m doing a page for our good Attorneys of people’s referrals so people can know before they mortgage their home or their first born child they are getting a good attorney.
Since you don’t honor your oath you’re obviously not a good attorney; let me enlighten you and tell you what makes a good Attorney.
(1) They Honor their Oath;
(2) They comply with the Rules of Professional Conduct and Code of Judicial Conduct;
(3) They are ethical;
(4) They are skilled;
(5) They truly want to help people in their time of crisis; they don't look at other people’s misery as a payday.
(6) They keep our Judges checked.
You are definitely not going on my “Good Attorney Club” page. You’ve already shown you’re a bad attorney unable to honor your own Oath and are too busy harassing me. Instead you’re going to be on the page of “our Attorneys who are nothing more than paid whores-people paid to screw others”.
I’m sure you’re one of our bad attorneys that are all friendly during the honeymoon phase before you get paid, but as soon you are paid, your clients can’t get a hold of them to save their life and you probably not only bill them for all the missed calls, you probably charge them when they do finally get a hold of you to ask why you’re not doing your job in representing them you bill them for that call too! There’s a list a mile long of bad attorney traits that I’m sure you fit the bill on all of them.
You’re also probably one of those bad attorneys that talk people into doing blind pleas just to clear your case load.
So far you’ve just been a minor distraction, but keep it up with your harassing remarks like I lost my vehicle and your continued harassment of me you’re gonna have my full attention; I’m pretty sure if I was to start researching you that I wouldn’t have to look far to find your skeletons. If I’ve taken on 30 out of our 35 Judges we had in 2018, I can certainly take on you.
You keep harassing me and I will begin by filing a bar complaint on you and then we’ll see how comical you think this all is.
Leave me alone, do not say another word about me; you don’t have my consent to harass me. Kathy Box Doyle 1-26-19
Here's a tip lunatic Kathy Doyle - File a bar complaint against me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Oh, and how are the GoFundMe efforts going?
You’re going to “enlighten his stupidity?” You’re calling someone else stupid??? You sit on your butt all day in front of the courthouse with your hoard of signs and make the street look like trash. I honestly don’t know how you can afford to sit around all day and be so lazy. Maybe if you were actually doing something productive instead of blabbering on and on here and sitting around the courthouse like an idiot, you’d still have a car. I always thought you were a nut based on visual evidence but after reading through your responses here...holy crap. You are on another level.
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