Lost Lakes

[OKCisOK4me]

http://kfor.com/2017/05/19/city-coun...ncerts-a-year/

Wtf...

[Anonymous.]

I've been to like 3 shows here, and they've all been on weekends and ended @ like midnight or a little after... give me a break.

[Achilleslastand]

Don't shows at the Zoo have a cut off time like 11pm or so?

[Plutonic Panda]

"Pettis also says the types of acts coming to Lost Lakes aren't family friendly."

This is the kind of sh!t I'm talking about. Since we last had the discussion of the obsession with "family friendly" crap in Oklahoma I've seen multiple articles that have all made sure to reiterate that 'x' festival is family friendly or whatever.

I saw an article from the Oklahoman that, for the first time, made sure to include that something won't only be for kids. It was in regards to HeyDay.

But a councilman using the family friendly sh!t to try and shoot something down, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Ugh

[Achilleslastand]

"Pettis also says the types of acts coming to Lost Lakes aren't family friendly."

This is the kind of sh!t I'm talking about. Since we last had the discussion of the obsession with "family friendly" crap in Oklahoma I've seen multiple articles that have all made sure to reiterate that 'x' festival is family friendly or whatever.

I saw an article from the Oklahoman that, for the first time, made sure to include that something won't only be for kids. It was in regards to HeyDay.



But a councilman using the family friendly sh!t to try and shoot something down, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Ugh

Maybe they can reunite the Brady Bunch for the next festival and they can do its a sunshine day for an encore.

[Colbafone]

"Pettis also says the types of acts coming to Lost Lakes aren't family friendly."

This is the kind of sh!t I'm talking about. Since we last had the discussion of the obsession with "family friendly" crap in Oklahoma I've seen multiple articles that have all made sure to reiterate that 'x' festival is family friendly or whatever.

I saw an article from the Oklahoman that, for the first time, made sure to include that something won't only be for kids. It was in regards to HeyDay.

But a councilman using the family friendly sh!t to try and shoot something down, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Ugh

Dude. It's one councilman. Chill. You'll be able to go party with ICP at the Gathering just fine. This won't pass. Don't forget your Faygo.

[soonerguru]

I like Pettis but this is bunk.

[pw405]

"Pettis also says the types of acts coming to Lost Lakes aren't family friendly."

This is the kind of sh!t I'm talking about. Since we last had the discussion of the obsession with "family friendly" crap in Oklahoma I've seen multiple articles that have all made sure to reiterate that 'x' festival is family friendly or whatever.

I saw an article from the Oklahoman that, for the first time, made sure to include that something won't only be for kids. It was in regards to HeyDay.

But a councilman using the family friendly sh!t to try and shoot something down, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Ugh

I agree Panda, the obsession with making everything "family friendly" shouldn't be the responsibility of city/state/federal government. If parents want family friendly things, keep your kids at church.

[Plutonic Panda]

Dude. It's one councilman. Chill. You'll be able to go party with ICP at the Gathering just fine. This won't pass. Don't forget your Faygo.

I get more than upset than I should at this but damn man, why is almost everything so family focused in that state. . . and I really like Pettis as a councilman and what he's done for the East Side.

[OkieDave]

"Pettis also says the types of acts coming to Lost Lakes aren't family friendly."

This is the kind of sh!t I'm talking about. Since we last had the discussion of the obsession with "family friendly" crap in Oklahoma I've seen multiple articles that have all made sure to reiterate that 'x' festival is family friendly or whatever.

I saw an article from the Oklahoman that, for the first time, made sure to include that something won't only be for kids. It was in regards to HeyDay.

But a councilman using the family friendly sh!t to try and shoot something down, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Ugh

Pettis has received campaign contributions from the Chickasaws who run the Zoo amphitheater and is likely carrying water for them (or worse) as the the Lost Lakes amphitheater will compete and take business away from the Zoo. Anyone who has been to concerts at the Zoo will immediately recognize the double standard as the music from the Zoo amphitheater can be heard by the surrounding neighborhoods (not to mention the animals). Pettis is walking the City into a lawsuit. Pettis knows full well that the band he calls "not family friendly" has played multiple times in OKC (Diamond Ballroom) and in cities throughout the U.S. without incident. City attorneys are smart enough to know what Pettis is doing and will probably recommend against Pettis who only got the council to send the three concert limit idea to the planning commission.

[OKCRT]

Family friendly should not even be in discussion here. This is crazy talk. If the concert is not for kids then DON'T take KIDS. Let the grownups have their time also. Everything does not revolve around kids.

[Plutonic Panda]

Pettis has received campaign contributions from the Chickasaws who run the Zoo amphitheater and is likely carrying water for them (or worse) as the the Lost Lakes amphitheater will compete and take business away from the Zoo. Anyone who has been to concerts at the Zoo will immediately recognize the double standard as the music from the Zoo amphitheater can be heard by the surrounding neighborhoods (not to mention the animals). Pettis is walking the City into a lawsuit. Pettis knows full well that the band he calls "not family friendly" has played multiple times in OKC (Diamond Ballroom) and in cities throughout the U.S. without incident. City attorneys are smart enough to know what Pettis is doing and will probably recommend against Pettis who only got the council to send the three concert limit idea to the planning commission.

That's sad. I thought Pettis was a good councilman and he seems to be in a lot of ways, but reading this makes me second guess.

[Bill Robertson]

Either the Animal or the Franchise were talking one morning last week about the number of concert noise complaints from residents near Lost Lakes. Residents that lived there before the venue was built. I don't know if the report of complaints is accurate but if it's true that there have been a lot of complaints a councilman would only be doing his job in trying to remedy the situation.

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^^
Lots of speculation here - including smearing a councilman who I have nothing but respect for up to this point - but until this post nobody has mentioned the part that it think is most relevant; the Zoo Ampitheater has been operating for generations while this place has been doing shows for maybe a year. There is a completely different standard here. People who move into the neighborhood across Eastern/MLK from ZA should expect loud music. People who have lived in a quiet rural area may have a more legitimate gripe when a new venture shows up and starts blasting concert-level music.

The contempt for fellow citizens and ostensibly well-meaning public officials that emanates from this site is really off-putting at times.

[Plutonic Panda]

Urbanized, it isn't just this site, the internet is that way. A lot of the things are off putting but no one is going to give opinions that everyone will like. The obsession for walkaility on this site is off putting for me at times on here. Everyone has a right to their opinion and I even said I like Pettis.

[Ross MacLochness]

Dude. It's one councilman. Chill. You'll be able to go party with ICP at the Gathering just fine. This won't pass. Don't forget your Faygo.

Whoop Whooooop!!!

[OkiePoke]

Limiting it to 3 concerts is strange. I could see calling for no noise past 11-12 for concerts.

[catch22]

^^^^^^^
Lots of speculation here - including smearing a councilman who I have nothing but respect for up to this point - but until this post nobody has mentioned the part that it think is most relevant; the Zoo Ampitheater has been operating for generations while this place has been doing shows for maybe a year. There is a completely different standard here. People who move into the neighborhood across Eastern/MLK from ZA should expect loud music. People who have lived in a quiet rural area may have a more legitimate gripe when a new venture shows up and starts blasting concert-level music.

The contempt for fellow citizens and ostensibly well-meaning public officials that emanates from this site is really off-putting at times.

This is a good point. A new venue should not be compared to one that has been in operation for a long time.

It reminds me of the people who move next to an airport and then complain about noise - not a valid complaint. But if you live somewhere and they decide to build an airport from scratch and your property now has a bunch of noise - that's a valid complaint. I think the neighborhood Pettis is representing has a valid complaint.

[catch22]

I do agree that limiting the number of shows is strange, and a curfew time would be more appropriate. Can the city instruct a business how many times per year it can operate? I don't think so, but it can limit the hours of the day if it disturbs the peace.

^Serious question for those who know the law. Not rhetorical.

[jonny d]

I do agree that limiting the number of shows is strange, and a curfew time would be more appropriate. Can the city instruct a business how many times per year it can operate? I don't think so, but it can limit the hours of the day if it disturbs the peace.

^Serious question for those who know the law. Not rhetorical.

Isnt the city leasing the park/amphitheater to the operator? If they are, then they can tell them to jump, and they better say "how high?". If not, then they probably couldn't.

[catch22]

Isnt the city leasing the park/amphitheater to the operator? If they are, then they can tell them to jump, and they better say "how high?". If not, then they probably couldn't.

Thanks. I wasn't aware they were leasing it from the city. I had assumed this was private property.

[Jersey Boss]

Isnt the city leasing the park/amphitheater to the operator? If they are, then they can tell them to jump, and they better say "how high?". If not, then they probably couldn't.

From today in the city paper.
Most of the park is situated on property leased from the Oklahoma City Riverfront Redevelopment Authority.

Pettis has proposed limiting concerts on a section of the park owned by Lost Lakes Development LLC to three per year, and only on Fridays, Saturdays or legal holidays
(http://newsok.com/limits-to-concerts...rticle/5550046)

[Anonymous.]

So I am looking @ aerial of the location of the stage and then the nearest residences.

The neighborhood I am pretty sure the complaints are from is surrounded by the following:

Recycling plant
Concrete Mixing Plant
Oil/Natural Gas pumpsite with tank batteries
Lost Lakes grounds


I would guess they aren't exactly used to tranquil sounds of nature. I am genuinely curious about the number of complaints and who/where they are coming from.

[mkjeeves]

There's a pretty dense residential neighborhood 1/4 mile west of the amphitheater, somewhat further and less dense to the north and northeast. I'd be calling my councilman every day if someone put an amphitheater that close to my house.

[bombermwc]

like mkjeeves, if i lived that close, id probably be pretty annoyed and ask for some sort of limits on the "goings-on" there too.

Someone mentioned the Diamond Ballroom...that's great, but it's indoors so noise isn't really a factor....and no one lives near the Diamond. The closest neighbor is almost 1/2 mile as the bird flies.

Being an amphitheater makes a difference, at least for me. What type of concert goes on there, i dont care. It doesn't have to be "family friendly". Kind of like Deadpool. It's rated R but some idiot parents still took their kids. As if an R film was ever ok for a 10 year old. But if i lived near this place, i would ask that some ordinance was in place to keep the noise down by some point so i could actually sleep.