OKC Mayor Race 2014

[ljbab728]

Shadid did finally file and the vast majority of his money came from him.

Shadid loaned $371,000 to his campaign for Oklahoma City mayor | News OK

[PhiAlpha]

Shadid did finally file and the vast majority of his money came from him.

Shadid loaned $371,000 to his campaign for Oklahoma City mayor | News OK

Glad that went to waste...


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[David]

I don't know about waste, it's not like they piled it up and burned it. According to the article it went for office supplies, advertising, salaries, etc, a fair bit of which (all of, possibly?) were local expenses. Think of it as participating in the local economy.

[catch22]

For someone who can really relate to the people and be the people's man....that's a huge check to write. $370 grand?

I feel awful when I have to put a comma in a check.

[DoctorTaco]

Question: I always read about wealthy politicians "loaining" money to their campaigns. Do they ever get paid back?

[kevinpate]

Question: I always read about wealthy politicians "loaining" money to their campaigns. Do they ever get paid back?

If the funds arrive to retire the debt, yes.

[Jeepnokc]

If the funds arrive to retire the debt, yes.

Usually, the successful candidate will have a fundraiser after winning to retire his debt. Basically gives a chance for all those betting on the wrong horse to curry some favor with the victor.

[mkjeeves]

I wonder how much OKC United / Catalyst spent on Mick's campaign. Must have spent the whole budget since they apparently don't have the money to update their website from saying Vote March 4.

OKC United

[PhiAlpha]

I wonder how much OKC United / Catalyst spent on Mick's campaign. Must have spent the whole budget since they apparently don't have the money to update their website from saying Vote March 4.

OKC United

Don't care. Mick won, if they had a hand in helping defeat dred, then good for them.


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[Mel]

Just here flogging the dead horse.

[Plutonic Panda]

For someone who can really relate to the people and be the people's man....that's a huge check to write. $370 grand?

I feel awful when I have to put a comma in a check.

wow.... are you serious? Because he can write a check he somehow can't relate to "the people"? It's people like you that make me want to support Ed Shadid. Go and support the poor and cry about not having money and protesting the evil rich folks... what a great life to live

p.s. So this doesn't get skewed, I was a huge Mick supporter, went out and gave rides to people to vote because they didn't have one. I got around 14 people to vote for Mick(isn't much, but it's something). I love Mick and don't think Ed was the right guy for the job, but man SOME of you Mick supporters people have a serious problem.

p.p.s., Catch, I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but it seems you have a problem with the rich and maybe you ought to rethink things a bit. You stated in another thread, if you have the power to help but don't you're a bad person and that translates to "rich folks with money have an obligation to give poor people free handouts" and that kind of thinking is sickening. It is more sickening to have watched Ed being bashed in some pretty low ways on here, and you have played a pretty large part of it. People acting like Ed was the anti-christ, it was pretty pathetic and immature.

[OSUFan]

I wonder how much OKC United / Catalyst spent on Mick's campaign. Must have spent the whole budget since they apparently don't have the money to update their website from saying Vote March 4.

OKC United

Looked at the website for the first time. Why do you assume it is pro-Mick?

[mkjeeves]

Looked at the website for the first time. Why do you assume it is pro-Mick?

Not the website, the org allegedly used direct mail with their name on it and made robocalls in support of mick.

http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dir...alyst-oklahoma

[mkjeeves]

Glad that went to waste...

From the article upthread:

Shadid finished second in the March 4 election, taking 32.8 percent of the vote. Mayor Mick Cornett cruised to a fourth term with 65.7 percent.

Shadid reported raising $476,255.19 and spending $465,565.22 through March 17, the close of the latest reporting period. Shadid finished the reporting period with $10,689.97.

Cornett reported earlier this week that he raised $779,417.02 for his campaign and finished with $50,236.93 in the bank.

Nearly twice the money spent on Mick (or more, depending on what Catylist spent) and in the end, Mick got twice the vote. Since we all know the outcome was based on merit rather than money, it's hard to say who wasted the most money.

[kevinpate]

One candidate largely spent the donated funds of folks who believed in his vision.
One candidate largely spent the funds he loaned his campaign to entice people to believe in his vision.

One was elected and ended the campaign with a small surplus of funds.
One was not elected and ended the campaign with funds on hand far below the amount of loans made.

All things considered, it's probably for the best the challenger did not loan his campaign twice as much as he did.

[mkjeeves]

One candidate largely spent the donated funds of folks who believed in his vision.

Wasted, considering he didn't need to collect or spend nearly double.

[OSUFan]

Not the website, the org allegedly used direct mail with their name on it and made robocalls in support of mick.

Who or what is behind secretive group "Catalyst Oklahoma"? | Red Dirt Report

How do we know the United site and the Catalyst people are the same?

[kevinpate]

Wasted, considering he didn't need to collect or spend nearly double.

One might opine that his supporters did not consider making a donation a waste of funds at the time they made a go/no-go decision to put pen to check. Once donated for the purpose of the 2014 mayoral election, not using the funds for the intended purpose would seem an ill-advised move. Same with the funds the challenger loaned to himself when donations were not forthcoming. He could have elected to run a less expensive campaign. He thought it worthwhile to do otherwise. I may not have agreed with his ideas and attitudes and methods, but he either believed in himself enough to carry the load himself, or perhaps gambled that if there was a win the debt could be retired by further fundraising.

[mkjeeves]

How do we know the United site and the Catalyst people are the same?

From the bottom of the site:

Paid for by OKC United, a project of Catalyst Oklahoma

http://okcunited.org/

[bradh]

Jesus...let it die

[mkjeeves]

My thoughts as well, what...9 pages of posts since the election?

[Bellaboo]

Not the website, the org allegedly used direct mail with their name on it and made robocalls in support of mick.

Who or what is behind secretive group "Catalyst Oklahoma"? | Red Dirt Report

This is all I need to know - Red Dirt Report = Garbage.

[soonerguru]

wow.... are you serious? Because he can write a check he somehow can't relate to "the people"? It's people like you that make me want to support Ed Shadid. Go and support the poor and cry about not having money and protesting the evil rich folks... what a great life to live

p.s. So this doesn't get skewed, I was a huge Mick supporter, went out and gave rides to people to vote because they didn't have one. I got around 14 people to vote for Mick(isn't much, but it's something). I love Mick and don't think Ed was the right guy for the job, but man SOME of you Mick supporters people have a serious problem.

p.p.s., Catch, I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but it seems you have a problem with the rich and maybe you ought to rethink things a bit. You stated in another thread, if you have the power to help but don't you're a bad person and that translates to "rich folks with money have an obligation to give poor people free handouts" and that kind of thinking is sickening. It is more sickening to have watched Ed being bashed in some pretty low ways on here, and you have played a pretty large part of it. People acting like Ed was the anti-christ, it was pretty pathetic and immature.

I don't believe that is what catch22 was trying to convey. He was pointing out the essential hypocrisy of a man running an ostensible class warfare, "I'm for the poor union guy and people who need buses" campaign who can effortlessly strike a check for nearly $400 grand.

Ed made this a "the rich guys are screwing you" election, not catch22. C22's comment about his personal ability to compete in this marketplace of ideas with his own personal scratch is a contrast showcasing the difficulty of the average working stiff, like himself, to have a voice, and the inherent irony of a candidate like Shadid who can participate financially to such an absurd degree acting like he can understand and empathize with the average working stiff. The context is clear, the irony is obvious, and catch22 has said nothing to earn such scorn.

[trousers]

So when is this election?

[catch22]

wow.... are you serious? Because he can write a check he somehow can't relate to "the people"? It's people like you that make me want to support Ed Shadid. Go and support the poor and cry about not having money and protesting the evil rich folks... what a great life to live

p.s. So this doesn't get skewed, I was a huge Mick supporter, went out and gave rides to people to vote because they didn't have one. I got around 14 people to vote for Mick(isn't much, but it's something). I love Mick and don't think Ed was the right guy for the job, but man SOME of you Mick supporters people have a serious problem.

p.p.s., Catch, I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but it seems you have a problem with the rich and maybe you ought to rethink things a bit. You stated in another thread, if you have the power to help but don't you're a bad person and that translates to "rich folks with money have an obligation to give poor people free handouts" and that kind of thinking is sickening. It is more sickening to have watched Ed being bashed in some pretty low ways on here, and you have played a pretty large part of it. People acting like Ed was the anti-christ, it was pretty pathetic and immature.

Okay. Thank you for your insight. Allow me to defend myself from your reaction based off of your seemingly inability to comprehend writing.

Ed Shadid made a big stink over "wealthy people deciding the future of our city". Larry Nichols, etc.

I was correctly pointing out that, despite his efforts to portray himself as a man for the middle class. That he understands and feels the pain of the lower and middle class. It's only fair to point out that he is an upper class citizen, who probably doesn't truly relate to the lower and middle class. He just tells them what they want to hear to gain votes.

Also you are incorrect regarding my opinion of the wealthy. I would consider myself a wealthy person. Not Ed Shadid or Plutonic Panda wealthy. But I have my own personal wealth I have worked hard for. My family also has some wealth. But, I stand by my completely sickening and offensive comment that those who have the power to help those in need, should. It's for the better of society. You have twisted and distorted that statement to mean giving all your wealth away to the poor. That is incorrect. Last year I voluntarily donated about 5% of my checks to various causes. That's not a lot. But it is what I can afford.

I guess I sicken you, and that doesn't bother me one bit. Go be sick.