OKC Mayor Race 2014

[Urban Pioneer]

I guess it is just all the freak out about the gay issue, the flyer, etc. I simply don't understand the hysteria. From where I stand, none of this is that big a deal because it is pretty obvious what is going on. Mick is also way up in the polls. The spitting and name calling and just being coarse and ugly, to me, just seems completely over the top. You'd think we were all going to die.

Maybe I am being too confident but you guys sound hysterical. IMO, this is going to come down to whether people are pleased with how the city is going or if they want a change. These flyers don't amount to squat. I mean, just look at them. I can't imagine taking them seriously even without knowing the back story. And people claiming someone infiltrated their stronghold sounds nutty to most voters not all caught up in it so I don't understand giving that sort of accusation more than a strawberry. Eye roll stuff.

Honestly, you guys are sounding like you are scared to death and I have NO idea why. The only thing it is doing, IMO, is cause me to wonder what I am missing because Mick's supporters are clearly freaked out. Before seeing this thread (and the other one), voting for Mick, to me, was a no brainer.

That makes sense. I think people are simply enjoying the horse race Penny. I'm not hysterical and I am confident Mick will win with decent voter turn out. For those who worked for Ed, this is simply a moment to enjoy. He had the absolute best team of political talent for the Ward 2 campaign. It is amusing to most of us to watch the stumbling around.

The saddest part (and most bittersweet) is that if he was half the man he claims to be, he might be a pretty great leader. The problem is, there is no substance there. It is simply about him.

[BrettM2]

The Mick supporter and Soonerguru playbook. Repeat whatever you want to say often, truth or not.

The good thing is, for those who have followed this thread, it is readily apparent that at least 3/4 of your posts have been without any kind of substance. You use vague generalities and try your best to paint everyone else as this mean, evil bully. Keep at it.

[mkjeeves]

Soccer fans come to mind when I read the Mick supporters on this forum, PQ. Probably a good thing Mick is going to win.

[Midtowner]

BrettM2, careful, he might sue.

[BrettM2]

Soccer fans come to mind when I read the Mick supporters on this forum, PQ. Probably a good thing Mick is going to win.

Exhibit 432a.

[BrettM2]

BrettM2, careful, he might sue.

I have two history degrees... the only thing he's going to get out of me is some student loan debt.

[Tier2City]

I'm just waiting for the lost-because-of-the-chamber conspiracy spin and then the quick pivot to the Convention Center petition - you know, the handy insurance to remain relevant through March 2015.

[Urban Pioneer]

Half of me thinks that they will trot the petition out at their DRED party... but then I heard that the language wasn't written properly and they are starting over. I have no idea which to believe.

[PennyQuilts]

I think this campaign has become extremely personal to a lot of you guys. It hasn't been that way, to me, so I suppose it is hard for me to fathom what you guys are so upset about. I'm looking at it from a different angle, kind of like - "Oh, we have an election? Glad I remembered. Okay, I'm really happy with how things have been going, haven't seen any big scandals and his opponent is sort of coming out of nowhere and I don't have much reason to change. I'll trot down, cast my vote and then go eat a breakfast burrito from Braums. I'll check the news, later, to see how things are going.

But then I see these threads.

Oh, wait = Shadid has a checkered past? yawn. Couldn't care less. Not sure why Mick's supporters are being so nasty about it - it makes them sound pretty jerky, actually. The things they are upset about just aren't that big a deal at this point. Trying to paint him as being a drug addict, into porn, etc., etc. makes the supporters look worse than Shadid. Being honest, here.

Oh, Mick allegedly spent two years in NYC? Wait, how could he do his job if he actually did that? Sounds exaggerated.

Oh, Mick liked his anonymity in NYC? Er, well, so do a lot of people. Oh wait - that's supposed to imply he is GAY???? Really? (If you aren't big in the LBGT community that kind of stuff won't even raise an eyebrow because you aren't thinking on those lines). And please, who cares, anyway? I had to come to this board to even pick up on the nuances. Or maybe, it is just paranoia.

The flyer in question looks idiotic, btw.

Oh, there have been claims by Shadid supporters that Mick has infiltrated his campaign? Honestly, that sounds goofy. If he did, how does that help them? Why are Mick's supporters worried about that? From where I stand, accusations without proof just make Shadid's supporters sound less like liars and more kind of crazy. At least until I see how Mick's supporters are acting all mad and worried and then they ALL sound nuts.

All this business about sending Thunder back to Seattle if we like Shadid? You realize that's nuts, right?

Again, I'm just speaking as you typical voter who just wants the street sanded, the bills paid and the police/fire to show up when I need them. And I want the city to continue to shine. Again, maybe I'm being unrealistic in thinking this isn't that close a race. If Shadid wins, color me very surprised. I will get up, brave the streets and vote for Mick. That's my plan. I find myself definitely giving Shadid a second and third look after reading this craziness but I have decided to just stick with Mick.

[Laramie]

The real supporters of Mayor Mick Cornett & Dr. Ed Shadid will show up at the polls tomorrow and settle this forum fusion of a love hate relationship. Save the energy for getting to the polls safely tomorrow.

The good thing about this election is that people are more involved and engaged in selecting someone who will lead Oklahoma City; sadly it has reached the level of diversion and posters feeling as though this election is a personal attack on their egos.

Time to arm yourself:

Go Vote!

"Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty... ...as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.

[CaptDave]

I think a rising tide lifts all boats. Some boats in OKC are certainly still sitting on or scraping the ground, but I simply do not believe that is due to some nefarious plot. Every city is going to have those situations and maybe we can do better addressing some of those underlying issues, but the tide in OKC is undeniably rising. The processes that have facilitated OKC's rebirth and growth aren't perfect, but virtually no public policy or initiative ever is.

On balance though, I think we are headed the right direction and I think Mayor Cornett deserves a lot of the credit for that. While our Mayor does not wield much "hard" power, Mick excels with the soft power OKC's Mayor office provides him. He has been brilliant in that role and is clearly the best suited for it from the candidates on the ballot tomorrow.

VOTE!!

[Plutonic Panda]

I think the Fraternal Order of Police trying to throw their weight in this election really hurts their credibility. I have always been the first to support their causes but no more. Their job is to protect and serve, not try to sway an election. Of course they were against MAPS as well so this should not come as any surprise. I have had 2 robo calls from Lt, George at the police dept endorsing Ed. On another note, in the neighborhood a few blocks away the police endorsement will really scare them away from Ed.

Funny how the police would support someone with a background such as Ed's. Coke, child negligence, domestic abuse etc....

[Plutonic Panda]

In all honesty though, this thread should be shut down. The election is less than 24hrs and there is no reason to debate any further. Go out and vote - if you think Ed Shadid is the man for the job, then vote for Shadid... if you think Mick Cornett should stay, then vote for Cornett. Don't see why we have to get personal with debates(except when dealing with Edgar, someone who does nothing but lie and provoke people). Go out and vote for your guy, make sure it is who you truly believe in and don't let anyone tell you differently. Research, gather facts, and vote for who you truly think is best for the city.

[PhiAlpha]

I think this campaign has become extremely personal to a lot of you guys. It hasn't been that way, to me, so I suppose it is hard for me to fathom what you guys are so upset about. I'm looking at it from a different angle, kind of like - "Oh, we have an election? Glad I remembered. Okay, I'm really happy with how things have been going, haven't seen any big scandals and his opponent is sort of coming out of nowhere and I don't have much reason to change. I'll trot down, cast my vote and then go eat a breakfast burrito from Braums. I'll check the news, later, to see how things are going.

But then I see these threads.

Oh, wait = Shadid has a checkered past? yawn. Couldn't care less. Not sure why Mick's supporters are being so nasty about it - it makes them sound pretty jerky, actually. The things they are upset about just aren't that big a deal at this point. Trying to paint him as being a drug addict, into porn, etc., etc. makes the supporters look worse than Shadid. Being honest, here.

Oh, Mick allegedly spent two years in NYC? Wait, how could he do his job if he actually did that? Sounds exaggerated.

Oh, Mick liked his anonymity in NYC? Er, well, so do a lot of people. Oh wait - that's supposed to imply he is GAY???? Really? (If you aren't big in the LBGT community that kind of stuff won't even raise an eyebrow because you aren't thinking on those lines). And please, who cares, anyway? I had to come to this board to even pick up on the nuances. Or maybe, it is just paranoia.

The flyer in question looks idiotic, btw.

Oh, there have been claims by Shadid supporters that Mick has infiltrated his campaign? Honestly, that sounds goofy. If he did, how does that help them? Why are Mick's supporters worried about that? From where I stand, accusations without proof just make Shadid's supporters sound less like liars and more kind of crazy. At least until I see how Mick's supporters are acting all mad and worried and then they ALL sound nuts.

All this business about sending Thunder back to Seattle if we like Shadid? You realize that's nuts, right?

Again, I'm just speaking as you typical voter who just wants the street sanded, the bills paid and the police/fire to show up when I need them. And I want the city to continue to shine. Again, maybe I'm being unrealistic in thinking this isn't that close a race. If Shadid wins, color me very surprised. I will get up, brave the streets and vote for Mick. That's my plan. I find myself definitely giving Shadid a second and third look after reading this craziness but I have decided to just stick with Mick.

If you're basing your vote on the "craziness" of a few people, taken out of context on an internet thread that you just started participating in 2 days ago, then that's just about as nuts as the Thunder moving back to Seattle because of Shadid. You obviously got into this too late to understand why a lot of the "craziness" is occurring. At any rate, glad you chose Mick, but if I were you, I wouldn't waste anymore time on this thread.

[kevinpate]

So is the typical Shadid supporter a troll?

Nah, but it sure seems they have a fondness for one.

[kevinpate]

Funny how the police would support someone with a background such as Ed's. Coke, child negligence, domestic abuse etc....

maybe they view such conduct as the full employment act of 2014?

[Jim Kyle]

I have had 2 robo calls from Lt, George at the police dept endorsing Ed. On another note, in the neighborhood a few blocks away the police endorsement will really scare them away from Ed.

Only two? I quit counting last night and just hung up on any Caller ID I failed to recognize... Got another just a few minutes ago.

[betts]

No one is saying the Thunder will move back to Seattle if Shadid is elected. But, his attitude is very similar to that in Seattle when they chose to continue a terrible contract with the team and not build a new arena. And Seattle is 3x the size of OKC. There is more than arena involved in keeping a team here. We can never forget that we're a small market. We can never rest on our laurels. But if someone chooses to vote for Ed because of this thread, all I've got to say is don't complain if you find out some of us are right. I was dumb enough to work for his campaign two years ago and I'm still sorry.

I'm sorry this has gotten heated. I don't have any problem with people's politics being different from mine. That's why I try very hard to stay out of the politics thread, although there is an occasional slip-up. I have friends from virtually the entire political spectrum. But I am passionate about OKC. I remember way too well the "before" days and am terrified to see us stall because of political infighting. I believe one city councilman only is voting for Ed. That's worth thinking about, as they've worked with him for 2 years, and they too are from different parts of the political spectrum.

Tomorrow I go back to being an OKC and streetcar booster. Thank God!

[Midtowner]

I think I originally made the comment about the Thunder back in Seattle. It was meant as a rhetorical question, implying that had Shadid been in Cornett's shoes during Cornett's tenure, the Supersonics would still be playing in Seattle (or maybe KC, but someplace else). Having an opportunistic, smart, engaged mayor looking to wield soft power to hit home runs like that is appealing to me compared to Shadid's history or simply trying to be a roadblock for our most ambitious pursuits.

[zookeeper]

Just voted for the re-election of Mick Cornett. No line at all where I vote.

[warreng88]

The vote it pretty simple: Do you like what has happened to the city under Cornett's watch over the last ten years as Mayor? Vote for him. You don't? Vote for one of the other three.

[OKCDrummer77]

Voted for Mick. Was #112 at my precinct.

[catch22]

Voted for Mick. Was #112 at my precinct.

What precinct are you in?

[OKCDrummer77]

What precinct are you in?

#550171 - I voted at St. Patrick's Catholic Church at NW 19th & Portland.

[warreng88]

This mailer was received by me and most of the other people on here on February 28th.

I was reading an article on Thelostogle.com about Ed's mailer and came across this link:

Oklahoma Gazette Commentary: A Republican for Shadid

Notice anything interesting about the wording of the seven points he brings up here? That was run on the Gazette website on 2/26/2014.