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    There were only a few people invited to those meetings (reportedly), Rick Cain wasn't one of them. Shadid was not on the City Council at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisb View Post
    “What do you mean you weren’t in those meetings? It’s a $120 million investment, what do you mean you weren’t in those meetings?" A chat with mayoral candidate Dr. Ed Shadid (Part 2) | Red Dirt Report
    I don't know what this (your quote) is in reference to, but let me tell you something, the Red Dirt Report is nothing but a freaking shill for the Shadid campaign. I wish I had sense to screen capture the threads on that blog that have been modified and all of the comments that have been deleted.

    They (Red Dirt report) lays down innuendo (about me) and then deletes the formal response I made in the comments along with all of the other public comments posted online. Questions over streetcar route selection process leads to war of words | Red Dirt Report

    I WON'T WASTE MY TIME RESPONDING AGAIN.

    You guys at the Shadid Campaign can go F+CK YOURSELVES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Have a hunch gay Oklahomans weren't feeling the love in the tv spot's from Mick's senate campaign.
    Mick voted for the GLBT non-discrimination resolution, so what is your problem? He has promoted inclusion and diversity in OKC. Not sure what your problem is other than you're a Shadid lackey desperate for an issue that makes Shadid look good.

  4. #1404

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisb View Post
    There were only a few people invited to those meetings (reportedly), Rick Cain wasn't one of them. Shadid was not on the City Council at that point.
    "Reportedly?" WTF does that mean.

    Back on the Shadid payroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Pioneer View Post
    I don't know what this (your quote) is in reference to, but let me tell you something, the Red Dirt Report is nothing but a freaking shill for the Shadid campaign. I wish I had sense to screen capture the threads on that blog that have been modified and all of the comments that have been deleted.

    They (Red Dirt report) lays down innuendo (about me) and then deletes the formal response I made in the comments along with all of the other public comments posted online.
    That's outrageous. I wrote a lengthy comment when the article was published countering the misinformation being reported, and you're right...I just checked the website and all of the comments have been deleted. Outrageous. That's not journalism, it's propaganda. If you can't handle the criticism, don't publish the bull sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Remember when Humphreys returned from vacation and ordered the Cimarron Alliance banners removed from light poles? A mayor can indeed make a difference.
    Again, Ed is just being the adult in the room and asking the obvious questions that should have been asked in the planning phase.MAP3 wasn't ready for prime time and it angers people when Ed points it out. That's not his fault.
    I covered this controversy. Edgar, you are either misinformed or providing bad information. The mayor did not, and still can not, make this call on his own. It is true that Kirk Humphreys asked city staff to do a report on the banner policy. He called for a vote (something any council member can do). The council, and the mayor, took this action with a split majority vote. The action was later overturned by the courts.
    The mayor is a significant position. But this version of history is pure fiction.

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    I do have questions as to why Rick Cain and Russell Claus have been excluded from a lot of important consultant hires and planning decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I do have questions as to why Rick Cain and Russell Claus have been excluded from a lot of important consultant hires and planning decisions.
    I think we both know the answer to that one. It has little to do with the actions of the Mayor and Council, and everything to do with standard operating procedures of the City Manager. Quite clearly one of the primary reasons we lost Russell Claus. Your article "When Planning is Denied a Vote in Shaping the City" tells the tale. Thanks for reposting it on your blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pahdz View Post
    This empty rhetoric is getting old. No offense to anyone who voted for Obama, but it sounds like the same schtick, and it kinda scares me because so many people fell for that too.
    Offense taken. Unlike Shadid, Obama had plans and actually delivered on them, regardless of your opinion about them. Please don't screw this up by comparing Shadid to a successful politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    Offense taken. Unlike Shadid, Obama had plans and actually delivered on them, regardless of your opinion about them. Please don't screw this up by comparing Shadid to a successful politician.
    Regardless of success or not (and opinions of either), no one needs to jump down this rabbit hole on this thread. There is a "Politics" section for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisb View Post
    “What do you mean you weren’t in those meetings? It’s a $120 million investment, what do you mean you weren’t in those meetings?" reddirtreport: A chat with mayoral candidate Dr. Ed Shadid
    I wasn't in those meetings either, but instead of whining about it, I decided to work as hard as I could to try and give the voters what they voted for, what Ed even admits allowed MAPS to pass: a streetcar. Because when the city asks the voters to approve projects as a plebiscite, it removes the City Council from acting as a representative body to one that is charged with carrying out the will of the voters. To ignore their wishes is to subvert the democratic process.

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    In addition, Ed was so far removed from the MAPS political process that he didn't even bother to vote. If you don't care enough to vote, you have abdicated the right to complain about the outcome, I've always told myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betts View Post
    In addition, Ed was so far removed from the MAPS political process that he
    didn't even bother to vote. If you don't care enough to vote, you have
    abdicated the right to complain about the outcome, I've always told myself.
    When I lived in OKC I voted against the tax increase for MAPS. Yes, MAPS
    has been good but I won't vote for a tax increase for anything.

    I'm very glad that MAPS has worked out. I still wouldn't vote for a tax
    increase to support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    When I lived in OKC I voted against the tax increase for MAPS. Yes, MAPS
    has been good but I won't vote for a tax increase for anything.

    I'm very glad that MAPS has worked out. I still wouldn't vote for a tax
    increase to support it.
    That's fine. Enjoy your life in spite of how you vote knowing that you are against things that are beneficial for others even if it might benefit you without you knowing it. I regularly vote in favor of school issues even though I haven't had a child in public schools for 14 years. It's not always about me like some people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    When I lived in OKC I voted against the tax increase for MAPS. Yes, MAPS
    has been good but I won't vote for a tax increase for anything.

    I'm very glad that MAPS has worked out. I still wouldn't vote for a tax
    increase to support it.
    Shocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    When I lived in OKC I voted against the tax increase for MAPS. Yes, MAPS
    has been good but I won't vote for a tax increase for anything.

    I'm very glad that MAPS has worked out. I still wouldn't vote for a tax
    increase to support it.
    It's not a tax increase, it's a continuation of an existing tax, but I imagine that's difficult for your tea-addled brain to comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    It's not a tax increase, it's a continuation of an existing tax, but I imagine that's difficult for your tea-addled brain to comprehend.
    sg, at least now we know that someone with such a confused mind won't be voting against an OKC issue now since he doesn't live in OKC. All of us OKC residents are grateful. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    It's not a tax increase, it's a continuation of an existing tax, but I imagine that's difficult for your tea-addled brain to comprehend.
    In fairness, he may have been speaking about the original vote. Unless I am completely mistaken it actually was a new tax.

    Not that I agree with Prune's stance, but let's not make up reasons to disagree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I covered this controversy. Edgar, you are either misinformed or providing bad information. The mayor did not, and still can not, make this call on his own. It is true that Kirk Humphreys asked city staff to do a report on the banner policy. He called for a vote (something any council member can do). The council, and the mayor, took this action with a split majority vote. The action was later overturned by the courts.
    The mayor is a significant position. But this version of history is pure fiction.
    Goes to the point of Ok having a real image issue with tolerance of diversity. Humphreys had a conniption when he returned from vacation and saw gay pride banners flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    No, I really don't. If they exist, surely you could provide a link?

    My own search came up dry on any commercial. I did find something attributed to a "GossipBoy" website which no longer exists citing some anonymous source in 2008 that the mayor was in talks with Steve Kern about advocating any books in public libraries containing gay themes be purged... and no named source will say that. Sounds like some wishful thinking.
    They aired- there was some churchy imagry and some solemn words about the sanctity of marriage, this was before he dumped his wife, definately blowing the pavlov whistle to get the attention of the religious bigots.

  21. #1421

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    Quote Originally Posted by boscorama View Post
    Sign stealing is so overrated. Why pick up the opponent's litter? Nothing says "I'm a dickhead" like 400 campaign signs at any given intersection.

    Period.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wambo36 View Post
    I'll bet I know considerably more firemen than you do and I don't know even one who stole any signs. Your "personal" friend is apparently a POS and that says more about you and the company you keep than it does about firemen in general. And by the way, if anyone ever calls asking for money for firemen, you're probably being scammed. So you'll have to find some other threat. We couldn't care less about who you give your money to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Pioneer View Post
    I don't know what this (your quote) is in reference to, but let me tell you something, the Red Dirt Report is nothing but a freaking shill for the Shadid campaign. I wish I had sense to screen capture the threads on that blog that have been modified and all of the comments that have been deleted.

    They (Red Dirt report) lays down innuendo (about me) and then deletes the formal response I made in the comments along with all of the other public comments posted online. Questions over streetcar route selection process leads to war of words | Red Dirt Report

    I WON'T WASTE MY TIME RESPONDING AGAIN.

    You guys at the Shadid Campaign can go F+CK YOURSELVES.
    It's about time to close this thread isn't it?

  22. #1422

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    They aired- there was some churchy imagry and some solemn words about the sanctity of marriage, this was before he dumped his wife, definately blowing the pavlov whistle to get the attention of the religious bigots.
    Surely you can come up with a link? This wouldn't be the first time your charges were not 100% accurate. I don't doubt a Republican candidate for the Senate attempted to go after the religious anti-tolerance folks, but doing so as you suggest, your word ain't exactly solid gold around here.

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    that hurts Mid, really stings.

  24. #1424

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    Still no link? When I search for him, I find him doing a lot of things Shadid would probably never do--talking to the media about how OKC's investment in itself has paid off, talking about how we're the most entrepreneurial city in the country, telling others how they can replicate our success, etc. While Cornett is out there being a leader and telling America how great we are, Shadid would prefer to remain here embroiled in politics and intrigue. No one's going to look at him as a leader. He probably doesn't even see himself as a leader--more a crusader going up against the powers that be for honor and glory.

    I don't think there's anything malevolent about the intent of the OKC Alliance. I will agree with Ed that it's unfortunate they can't be a little more transparent, but I certainly can't argue with the results.

  25. #1425

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    that hurts Mid, really stings.
    He didn't even run for Senate. He ran for the House seat now occupied by Lankford. If you're concerned about bigots, go after him, not Cornett.

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