Sugar Daddy Ads on I-35 targeting our young adults

[rezman]

I could do that job. But I would like to be a fly on the wall if they saw what the foot was attached to!

Well,... The foot bone's connected to the ... leg bone. The leg bone's connected to the....... ... .

[Roger S]

on edit:
Rut Rho. I posted the above and the new ad that popped up is for a site called rushmypassport

LMAO!!!! I posted my age as 44 and my ad says "Is a walk in tub right for you?".

Come on ad people! I'm a very active 44 year old.... I would have to be to consider chasing after multiple single Asian women.

[PennyQuilts]

I just got an ad for Lumpsum for your pension. About the only thing that applies would the lump.

I'm kind of surprised they didn't realize that at my age, I wouldn't have a pension.

[Mel]

All I get is ads for NFL on Direct TV. I would like a walk in tub though.

[BBatesokc]

UPDATE: Sorry to bring this back on topic, but, since the billboard was taken down (less than 24-hours after it was put targeted for removal) the outdoor advertising company who leased out the space has donated that same billboard and another electronic billboard for the use of No Boundaries Int'l and their anti-prostitution/trafficking efforts (about a $10,000 donation). A local attorney has stepped up to pay for the production of the billboards and the cost of support materials. We are designing the boards now and they should be up in about two weeks. The new board is going to spoof the original controversial ad and direct people to a domain that was just secured (NeverForSale.com). That site will have information and insights regarding the many dating sights that are thinly veiled promotions for prostitution and/or exploitation. The hope is then to make the domain name and materials available to non-profits in other cities that are faced with these public marketing attempts.

[MWCGuy]

That's awesome. It's nice to see something good came out of all this. The young men and women of our communities need to have value for themselves. The last thing they need to be is someone's good time for a little cash. There are plenty of upstanding methods to support yourself out there that won't lead to you being someone's property.

[hoya]

I'm getting ads for Walt Disney World.

The thing that disappoints me about these billboards is the women want way too much money. "Sugar daddy" apparently means more than dinner at Golden Corral, a pair of cubic zirconium earrings, and a new skirt from JC Penney's.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Anybody remember the song "Satin Sheets?" How about Moll Flanders or Jane Eyre? Each of these describes people who exchanged one sort of physical comfort for another. From what I understand, there was an arrangement between Adam and Eve along the same lines.

The point is that people will always look to trade physical attractiveness for finacial rewards, security, or any number of reasons. Its instinctual. A person who is finacially secure offers a superior chance that offspring will be able to survive. Pure natural selection.

If the younger or less wealthy party--men do this to, after all--isn't interested in procreation, the relationship provides survival benefits all the same which, in turn, provides procreative benefits given a long enough time horizen.

Promoting this basic human behavior as a business isn't prostitution unless somebody is making allegations that people are being drawn to a service under false pretenses and being tricked into actual prostitution or worse.

If that's the case, then there is a completely different issue than has been discussed thus far.

What may seem like a victory for public moralists is merely another in an age old struggle for public prudery vs. human nature. Human nature always wins in the long term.

I don't admire what this service promotes and I think the ads are crass and tasteless and I'd rather not see them. At the same time, but there seems quite a lot of prudery and selective outrage behind the effort to remove the billboards.

Everytime I see a church do some silly promotion like "Satan Hates Lifechurch" I'm offended but I wouldn't presume they shouldn't be able to purchase and use advertising.

[Of Sound Mind]

Anybody remember the song "Satin Sheets?" How about Moll Flanders or Jane Eyre? Each of these describes people who exchanged one sort of physical comfort for another. From what I understand, there was an arrangement between Adam and Eve along the same lines.

The point is that people will always look to trade physical attractiveness for finacial rewards, security, or any number of reasons. Its instinctual. A person who is finacially secure offers a superior chance that offspring will be able to survive. Pure natural selection.

If the younger or less wealthy party--men do this to, after all--isn't interested in procreation, the relationship provides survival benefits all the same which, in turn, provides procreative benefits given a long enough time horizen.

Promoting this basic human behavior as a business isn't prostitution unless somebody is making allegations that people are being drawn to a service under false pretenses and being tricked into actual prostitution or worse.

If that's the case, then there is a completely different issue than has been discussed thus far.

What may seem like a victory for public moralists is merely another in an age old struggle for public prudery vs. human nature. Human nature always wins in the long term.

I don't admire what this service promotes and I think the ads are crass and tasteless and I'd rather not see them. At the same time, but there seems quite a lot of prudery and selective outrage behind the effort to remove the billboards.

Everytime I see a church do some silly promotion like "Satan Hates Lifechurch" I'm offended but I wouldn't presume they shouldn't be able to purchase and use advertising.

I'm offended that you're offended by that.

[hoya]

What may seem like a victory for public moralists is merely another in an age old struggle for public prudery vs. human nature. Human nature always wins in the long term.

Not necessarily public prudery. I could just as easily argue that those "prudes" are really just seeking competitive advantage in the breeding arena. If I'm a woman who is not as hot, or a man who is not as rich, this service takes away a certain number of available breeding partners. Where is my 20 year old slutty girl with a big rack? Off with Ebenezer Scrooge, apparently. How can woman in her mid 30s with a great personality and two kids meet that wealthy older man when he's off with Tifani Easylay? The people against these services are not the rich old men or the slutty young tramps.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Prudery is just a mask behind which people hide any number of things, envy, shame, fear, lust, etc.

[jerrywall]

Hell, evidently there are folks that think we should hang billboards outside of middle schools telling girls not to bother with school.. that they can make the real money as a porn star.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Yes, that's exactly the issue.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Who thinks middle schoolers should quit school for porn? Probably the same ones behind "seduction of the innocent."

[Bunty]

That's awesome. It's nice to see something good came out of all this. The young men and women of our communities need to have value for themselves. The last thing they need to be is someone's good time for a little cash. There are plenty of upstanding methods to support yourself out there that won't lead to you being someone's property.

Well, when those young women get in a guy's face and tell him he looks like an abortion that lived, I'm not surprised that such guys would end up thinking their best hope for female company is to resort to try paying for it. The women who make guys feel like they are untouchable piles of human scum need to be faulted, too.

[BBatesokc]

Well, when those young women get in a guy's face and tell him he looks like an abortion that lived, I'm not surprised that such guys would end up thinking their best hope for female company is to resort to try paying for it. The women who make guys feel like they are untouchable piles of human scum need to be faulted, too.

WTH? Are you having a flashback moment or something? I've been around 43 years and I've never heard a girl tell a guy he looks like an abortion that lived.

If you have (either first or second hand) then I'd suggest tailoring my potential mates to something with a bit more class. And this is coming from a guy whose looks are constantly criticized by TLO but has never had a hard time dating attractive women. And by 'attractive' I mean inside and out.

I can't imagine any girl I'd find attractive that would use such colorful language.

Personally, to me, this billboard topic has little to do with prostitution in general - To me it primarily has to do with the specific targeting of young girls at Oklahoma City University. And secondary is the concern over what this sort of blatant public advertising does to the first impression and overall image of the city.

I remember when there were strip club ads along that same stretch of I-40. I personally thought they were in poor taste, but they weren't stating "Hey single teen moms and students, come be stripper for extra cash." They were targeting male customers who have to be at least 21 to enter the establishment to begin with.

[mugofbeer]

And secondary is the concern over what this sort of blatant public advertising does to the first impression and overall image of the city.

I think this is a very good point.

[Edmond_Outsider]

These ads are in ever major metro area in the country. So getting rid of them just reinforces our image as a backwoods outlier. Of course, that's what lots of people want whether they know it or not.

[BBatesokc]

These ads are in ever major metro area in the country. So getting rid of them just reinforces our image as a backwoods outlier. Of course, that's what lots of people want whether they know it or not.

What ads? ArrangementFinders? Not hardly. They've only appeared in a handful of cities and we've been the only city so far to be able to get rid of them so quickly. Chicago and Philly both had very public outcries against them. Even the mayor's office got involved in trying to get them down.

No city where they've appeared has the city turned a blind eye.

The only thing 'backwoods' is being okay with pimping out your daughter.

[mugofbeer]

These ads are in ever major metro area in the country. So getting rid of them just reinforces our image as a backwoods outlier. Of course, that's what lots of people want whether they know it or not.

Funny you say that. I heard a guy just the other day tell another guy that OKC is a hick, backwoods, Lizard-lick Towing, country gravy cow town because it doesn't have billboards advertising prostitution. Forbes rated us way down on their list of Best Cities In Which To Do Business in because we lack a sufficient number of men's clubs per capita.

[Edmond_Outsider]

I never knew where street prostitution exists in Oklahoma county until the public moralists began advertising it in opposition to it.

Opposition = advertising = promotion of the activity which is opposed. That is an interesting concept.

Even more interesting is that I neither patronize those prostitutes, make my living promoting them or pimp my daughter in the neighborhoods promoted by those who do.

However, I am very much guilty of having the opinion that opposing the billboards doesn't change anybody's behavior or really care much that the ads exist here or any other place.

Nor is my ego such that I consider anybody who disagrees with me guilty of any baseless accusation I can invent against them.

[Prunepicker]

Funny you say that. I heard a guy just the other day tell another guy
that OKC is a hick, backwoods, Lizard-lick...

Obviously that person has never been to northern New York or Vermont.

[BBatesokc]

I never knew where street prostitution exists in Oklahoma county until the public moralists began advertising it in opposition to it.

Opposition = advertising = promotion of the activity which is opposed. That is an interesting concept.

Even more interesting is that I neither patronize those prostitutes, make my living promoting them or pimp my daughter in the neighborhoods promoted by those who do.

However, I am very much guilty of having the opinion that opposing the billboards doesn't change anybody's behavior or really care much that the ads exist here or any other place.

Nor is my ego such that I consider anybody who disagrees with me guilty of any baseless accusation I can invent against them.

Yeah, its so much better to live in denial and uninformed about the world around us. Heck, since YOU didn't know 12 year olds were being sold on Robinson then by all means nobody should do anything to make it a priority within our law enforcement and DA's office.

Exactly how long is your list of things that should never be reported or exposed simply because YOU didn't know about it? Probably shouldn't report on bank robberies - might clue someone in they have money in them there banks. Don't report on rapes or murders - hell we back woods hicks might just start running rampant.

Do I think taking the billboard down will change the behavior of individuals dead set to participate in it - no. Does that in anyway mean the billboards should remain up? Absolutely not. It isn't rocket science that by turning a blind eye to such things that it begins to normalize them. I'm one that doesn't think the pornification of our youth should be normalized. You don't have to like it, I'm just comforted that you apparently have zero impact on it beyond some anonymous rants.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Thinking sugar billboards are irrelevant is exactly the same thing as abolishing all criminal law. Making them a publicized victory for public morality and what that means to people outside Oklahoma is exactly the same thing as advocating child molestation, rape, murder, and whatever else extreme things others need to invent in order to feel their point of view is the only legitimate one.

Goodness knows that nobody would know anything if there weren't people video taping it and profiting from that activity. This is not meant as a criticism. I'm a capitalist. If people pay for a service then the financial transaction legitimizes it. Everybody wins! There is a huge irony in this, however.

Since I've been cast as naïve, I wonder if prostitution has been around prior to 1970? Why else would it be called the worlds oldest profession? I don't know. I'm naive. I've always thought marketing is the oldest profession because without it, prostitutes wouldn't be able to sell.

I neither market, sell, or purchase prostitutes but thankfully if I want to, I know where to look to find the precise locations of this activity, how much they charge, and the best ways to avoid getting caught.

Of course, youtube is merely the latest way vice is marketed via expose. I recall back in the '70s first learning of Tulsa's most popular call girl service by reading an expose in the Tulsa World about it. I never used that service either but I still remember the phone number since the world included in the coverage how the service used a mnemonic device to publicize the number.

[Bunty]

Yeah, its so much better to live in denial and uninformed about the world around us. Heck, since YOU didn't know 12 year olds were being sold on Robinson then by all means nobody should do anything to make it a priority within our law enforcement and DA's office.

Exactly how long is your list of things that should never be reported or exposed simply because YOU didn't know about it? Probably shouldn't report on bank robberies - might clue someone in they have money in them there banks. Don't report on rapes or murders - hell we back woods hicks might just start running rampant.

Do I think taking the billboard down will change the behavior of individuals dead set to participate in it - no. Does that in anyway mean the billboards should remain up? Absolutely not. It isn't rocket science that by turning a blind eye to such things that it begins to normalize them. I'm one that doesn't think the pornification of our youth should be normalized. You don't have to like it, I'm just comforted that you apparently have zero impact on it beyond some anonymous rants.

Gee, he surely wasn't talking about crimes done against the will of the people and against children. Typically, a person does not feel like a victim and calls the cops after doing business with a prostitute. Neither does the prostitute. I also think he thinks the media making big news stories about these provocative services and their ads makes it known and draws some people into it.