34 of the nicest men in the metro area, NOT...

[SoonerQueen]

34 men arrested for sexual acts at Lake Hefner park

[Dustin]

34 men arrested for sexual acts at Lake Hefner park

[CuatrodeMayo]

So a 4 day sting netted men only?

[krisb]

There must be a lot of sexual repression among gay men in this city. I have heard that lewd acts in public are a way for gays to validate their sexual desires. If our culture weren't so homophobic I doubt we would have these excessive displays.

[PennyQuilts]

There must be a lot of sexual repression among gay men in this city. I have heard that lewd acts in public are a way for gays to validate their sexual desires. If our culture weren't so homophobic I doubt we would have these excessive displays.

I used to think that but have about decided that some people just like anonymous, casual sex. If that weren't so, you wouldn't have so many prostitutes in business.

[PennyQuilts]

34 men arrested for sexual acts at Lake Hefner park

Don't know any of them.

[SoonerQueen]

Don't know any of them.

I didn't know any of them either.

[Celebrator]

There must be a lot of sexual repression among gay men in this city. I have heard that lewd acts in public are a way for gays to validate their sexual desires. If our culture weren't so homophobic I doubt we would have these excessive displays.

Oh c'mon....

[Gene]

There must be a lot of sexual repression among gay men in this city. I have heard that lewd acts in public are a way for gays to validate their sexual desires. If our culture weren't so homophobic I doubt we would have these excessive displays.

I used to think that but have about decided that some people just like anonymous, casual sex. If that weren't so, you wouldn't have so many prostitutes in business.

It's a bit of both. Gay men who seek out prostitutes are no different from straight men who do it. They both do so because they believe it will be easy, exciting, and without consequence to career and family.

Personally, I don't judge people who get entangled in these situations. While I know I'd never do it, some people see themselves as trapped and feel they can't be honest about it (I've never been in such a sorry state). Whether they are gay or straight, doesn't make any difference.

Oh, one last thing... this applies to women also, but infinitesimally by comparison.

[Bunty]

There must be a lot of sexual repression among gay men in this city. I have heard that lewd acts in public are a way for gays to validate their sexual desires. If our culture weren't so homophobic I doubt we would have these excessive displays.

It has to do with lack of sex appeal. Those miserable guys looked like women wouldn't want to touch them with a 10 ft. pole, let alone a lot of gay guys. So misery tried to love company out at Hefner Park.

[Bunty]

So a 4 day sting netted men only?

My guess is cops never arrest straight couples getting it on, other than maybe telling them they better quit and go get a room. Maybe people don't even complain about them.

[kevinpate]

So a 4 day sting netted men only?

No real surprise since it was Hobie Point. Ditto if the policia conduct a sting at DropTrou, er, Trosper Park on the south side. A sting on S. Robinson or one of the larger truck stops, and a few other places, will net mostly male/female combinations. I don't recall reading or seeing stories about female/female hotspots. Though it would not surprise me if there were one or more areas in the metro for such connections, It would surprise me if it was very common. By and large, women are more selective and tend to exercise more discretion.

[WilliamTell]

I got a joke for you - So 27 white guys, 4 blacks, and 3 mexicans walk into a bathroom and....



On a more serious note, ladies be suspicious if your husband has plans to go by mcd's on my way to the goodwill, to drop off some clothes he got from windors clothing, get his hair cut at ally cat salon, go to express personel to look for a job, then stop by castels jewelry to get you a gift, and then out to dinner with his friends at Mahogany Steak House.

[ThomPaine]

I got a joke for you - So 27 white guys, 4 blacks, and 3 mexicans walk into a bathroom and....



On a more serious note, ladies be suspicious if your husband has plans to go by mcd's on my way to the goodwill, to drop off some clothes he got from windors clothing, get his hair cut at ally cat salon, go to express personel to look for a job, then stop by castels jewelry to get you a gift, and then out to dinner with his friends at Mahogany Steak House.

Especially if their husband works for Jimmy's Egg...

[BBatesokc]

I did an brief interview with KFOR regarding the sting. 34 men busted for sex acts at OKC?s Hobie Point park | KFOR.com

A large number of these men are married. They also come from all walks of life - some were basically transient while a couple lived in $500,000+ homes.

Personally, I completely separate this sort of activity from someone simply 'being gay.' This is out-of-control deviant behavior that is very similar to the 'straight' men who go trolling around S. Robinson and/or homeless shelters looking for individuals to pay to have sex with.

Sexual urges are completely normal - its how we react to them that brings the truly deviant to light. When an individual is willing to risk (or doesn't take into consideration) their job, their marriage, their health, their reputation, etc. and instead puts that all in jeopardy for anonymous public sex with multiple strangers, then you have an individual (male, female, straight, gay) with issues that need to be addressed.

[betts]

It has to do with lack of sex appeal. Those miserable guys looked like women wouldn't want to touch them with a 10 ft. pole, let alone a lot of gay guys. So misery tried to love company out at Hefner Park.

I suspect this is closest to the truth. And, aside from the fact that a few people sailing by saw this, which I agree isn't cool, who was harmed by this behavior? Maybe the men who were arrested who were married grew up when and where there was heavy stigma to being gay. Maybe they married to look "normal" and this is how they cope as (usually) anonymously as possible. I'm more worried about prostitutes being exploited by a pimp than their customers. The definite victims of this "crime" were the kids who inadvertently saw what was going on. Men who expect a girl (or guy) to have sex with them because they took them out and bought them a nice meal are no different. People who marry for money are no different. It is the location rather than the act that's truly a problem for society.

[BBatesokc]

I suspect this is closest to the truth. And, aside from the fact that a few people sailing by saw this, which I agree isn't cool, who was harmed by this behavior? Maybe the men who were arrested who were married grew up when and where there was heavy stigma to being gay. Maybe they married to look "normal" and this is how they cope as (usually) anonymously as possible. I'm more worried about prostitutes being exploited by a pimp than their customers. The definite victims of this "crime" were the kids who inadvertently saw what was going on. Men who expect a girl (or guy) to have sex with them because they took them out and bought them a nice meal are no different. People who marry for money are no different. It is the location rather than the act that's truly a problem for society.

I actually couldn't disagree more. Comparing taking a girl out to dinner with the hopes it will lure her into the sheets is a far cry from making the conscious decision to approach strangers in public spaces and then without even so much as an exchange of names, engaging in lewd acts with them in public. Its not even the same thing as horny 20-somethings picking each other up in some random Bricktown bar for a one-night stand. I'm sure a psychologist could more eloquently put it into perspective, but this is so far outside of social norms that to try and normalize or minimize it is simply enabling it.

[WilliamTell]

I actually couldn't disagree more.
Its not even the same thing as horny 20-somethings picking each other up in some random Bricktown bar for a one-night stand. I'm sure a psychologist could more eloquently put it into perspective, but this is so far outside of social norms that to try and normalize or minimize it is simply enabling it.

Is it really?

I know i dont pay my bills by taking pictures of johns and this cuts into your revenue stream, but...

If two grown people want to have sex, and are both very willing participants why does it matter if they know each others name or not?


(Im not touching on prostitution, because i know the whole human trafficking side of it and all the drugs, etc)

[JayhawkTransplant]

Why was their place if employment listed in the story? That seems bizarre to me.

[venture]

Why was their place if employment listed in the story? That seems bizarre to me.

That does seem a bit odd. Does every criminal, especially those like johns and such, have that disclosed publicly?

[pw405]

That does seem a bit odd. Does every criminal, especially those like johns and such, have that disclosed publicly?

I've never seen it, and I think that is really ****ty, sort of seems like an extra punishment to hopefully have these people's livelihoods, health insurance, careers upended... Why try and get somebody fired?

[pw405]

Like others have said, this is a mental health problem, in my opinion. I don't get why our society wants to publicly ruin these guys. How embarrassing.

[kevinpate]

Why was their place if employment listed in the story? That seems bizarre to me.

Not so uncommon to my recall. But I did note when looking up a similar sting from a few years ago they did not list everyone, let alone everyone's occupation.
Compare the recent article to this one from 2009
Oklahoma City park sex stings raise many questions | News OK

or this S Okc prostitution sting article from April of this year:
10 arrested in Oklahoma City prostitution sting | News OK

[betts]

I actually couldn't disagree more. Comparing taking a girl out to dinner with the hopes it will lure her into the sheets is a far cry from making the conscious decision to approach strangers in public spaces and then without even so much as an exchange of names, engaging in lewd acts with them in public. Its not even the same thing as horny 20-somethings picking each other up in some random Bricktown bar for a one-night stand. I'm sure a psychologist could more eloquently put it into perspective, but this is so far outside of social norms that to try and normalize or minimize it is simply enabling it.

It's fine to shoot a stranger, but not to have sex with them? I realize these are apples and oranges, but lets put this "crime" into perspective. I think I could sleep better after having had sex with a stranger than had I shot them, regardless of the circumstances.

[PennyQuilts]

Like others have said, this is a mental health problem, in my opinion. I don't get why our society wants to publicly ruin these guys. How embarrassing.

I don't see this as necessarily indicative of a mental health problem, whatsoever. This is common behavior all over the country and has been going on forever. Homosexuality is not a mental illness. Anonymous sex, by itself, doesn't mean you are mentally ill. Going to a public park when it is so common wouldn't rise to a mental illness, either, seems to me. This is anti social behavior flaunting the rules of standard civility. These aren't teenagers groping in the backseat of a car and it is very common for these types to be grown men who are able to afford to get a nice, private room if that is what they wanted. Meeting someone at the park, no names, no entanglements and no money is just a way of behavior outside mainstream but that doesn't mean it isn't widespread and commonplace. I think it probably is difficult for most of us to get into the head of people who would behave that way but to call it mental illness strikes me as a stretch. Personally, I think it is deviant and antisocial, particularly if it takes place in an area where people might happen upon them. That is not an accident. Lovers of any orientation meeting in the dark of the night are one thing. Strangers picking up people in public and engaging in anonymous sex near people who didn't sign on to see that sort of activity is completely different.