Will Rogers Development Discussion 2011

[SkyWestOKC]

They received the study. And they will pursue the central concourse plan.

Also,
http://www.flyokc.com/releases/CCTV%...%20Closure.pdf

Not sure what they are installing, but based on the filename I assume it has something to do with the CCTV system. I like how the title is misspelled too. Tehehe.

[venture]

They received the study. And they will pursue the central concourse plan.

Also,
http://www.flyokc.com/releases/CCTV%...%20Closure.pdf

Not sure what they are installing, but based on the filename I assume it has something to do with the CCTV system. I like how the title is misspelled too. Tehehe.

DOK had the story today on the Checkpoint upgrades...it is for close circuit TVs.

[SkyWestOKC]

AAR is getting an expanded 48-space parking lot, probably to be awarded a contract next Wednesday. If not the next trust meeting in September.

Concrete has started on the Shuttle/taxi-cab staging area on Amelia Earhart. I can't wait till they get that finished. The taxi cab drivers are dangerous how they park and congregate on 67th street by the control tower.

[MustangGT]

The taxi cab drivers are dangerous how they park and congregate on 67th street by the control tower.

Amen to that. I almost hit one of the foolish idiots 2 nights ago when he stepped into traffic without looking. He did not appreciate the cussing he got but he deserved it.

[SkyWestOKC]

According to the trust meeting tomorrow they are opening a Request for Proposals to tenants wishing to lease or rent the old Post Office facility on 5700 S. Portland Ave.

Also the Taxiway H realignment and reconstruction contractor will be approved.

Not really any big ticket items to note. ARINC is expanding their ramp area a little bit...not much else to report on that hasn't been covered.

Was inside the terminal today, I did notice that the amount of CCTV cameras is about on par with a casino. They are everywhere in all the parking garages, they are installing the cameras at the AAR parking lots too. Also noticed the new fixtures for more in the terminal building. Can't say I have ever seen that many in an airport before.

[Rover]

So, when will the paint the new parking garage so the garages match?

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-airp...ad_story_title

[SkyWestOKC]

The trust on Wednesday will vote to approve an Architect and Engineering contract with C.H. Guernsey & Company for $3.1 million dollars for the construction of the Consolidated Rental Car Facility. Not sure how long the A/E stage will be, but looking forward to seeing some drawings and renderings!

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/off-site-rental-ca...adlines_widget

[metro]

This is great news. Hope it passes. This is long overdue. I was in Albuquerque last week and was just thinking we need an offsite car rental facility like they have. They have a much larger airport and much better designed transit system, including at the airport level and they are smaller city with way less going for it. OKC needs to catch up with the times on the airport and transit fronts.

[Pete]

As I've stated earlier, I absolutely hate this idea.

As someone that always rents a car when flying in, being able to walk across the street and hop in a car is a fantastic convenience. Having to stand around, wait for a shuttle bus in all types of weather, hauling your luggage on and off, then being dumped into the facility with a big group of others (meaning everyone scrambles to get into line at the same time) makes this infinitely more hassle.

Plus, it sounds like I will be paying for it through a "use" tax.

We need this now, why? We've added tons more parking and airport numbers have not increased significantly in quite a while. I was just in Milwaukee which is a much bigger airport and they merely remodeled the portion of their parking garage closest to the terminal to house all the rental counters with the cars immediately adjacent.


If they are going to spend $32 million on the airport, there are much better uses, such as reworking the absurd and embarrassing greeters lounge (or lack thereof).

[SkyWestOKC]

They have started construction on relocating Taxiway H (on the east side of the airport).

I haven't seen anything on the trust meetings or otherwise, but it looks like they've started some dirt work south of Taxiway G. (Basically just south of 74th street). I don't know what they are doing, perhaps an equipment staging area for the Taxiway H reconstruction. Looks pretty big though, wonder if it might be a new hangar or something. I might have missed something in a previous trust meeting.

[BoulderSooner]

Lariat Landing .....

that is the new name of the portland development ..

this is from yesterdays airport trust meeting .... in the same meeting is a presentation on the new portland road alignment

[SkyWestOKC]

Latest OCAT meeting, Construction progress file indicates Atlantic Aviation is going to expand their ramp area, and so is ARINC.

Both come to no surprise as both have been extremely busy lately.

Taxiway H reconstruction and realignment is also underway. Haven't seen this before, but it looks like they are adding a paved airfield road around 17L/35R too.

[OUman]

^Great news. I've seen some AWACS at the west hangar of ARINC not too long ago, last month I believe. Any chance that ARINC will get some heavy jets for maintainence at OKC? A 747 or 330 would not be a bad surprise at all once in a while.

[SkyWestOKC]

I doubt it. ARINC is in the defense industry, until that contract runs out or gets cut, they will primarily be working on military stuff. They don't do typical maintenance, they specialize in aviation electronics (avionics) and things of that sort. With the size of their facility, they could no doubt change to do more maintenance type things if the military avionics upgrades got cut somehow.

This is not inside information or anything close to it, pure speculation on my part but I could see ARINC building a 3rd hangar in the next couple of years.

[SkyWestOKC]

EA Sports, Brighton, Inmotion Entertainment, Pops (West), Bricktown Square are now open. Pops (East) is still under construction. The new stores look really good, nice and bright. They are unique and not the default stores you would see. I like them.

[OUman]

We'll get more variety for sure once the East Concourse is built. Good to see some local stuff in there too.

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/will-rogers-world-...rticle/3627990

[OUman]

Say I just got to wondering abot this... an aircraft viewing area somewhere in the new development would be a plus, I would go there every chance I got. Right now, it's just basically hang around on one of the airport area roads and risk getting spotted by a policeman or security personnel. I know airports in Austin and Houston have such spotting areas, even La Guardia has one, as does DFW (the new Founders Plaza on the northwest side). Man, I miss that observation tower we had.

[warreng88]

Will Rogers World Airport expanding taxiway
By Brian Brus
Journal Record
Oklahoma City reporter - Contact: brian.brus@journalrecord.com
Posted: 07:16 PM Friday, December 30, 2011

OKLAHOMA CITY – Development on the eastern side of Will Rogers World Airport continues to drive infrastructure improvements, including the $6.4 million construction of a taxiway for heavy aircraft, airport officials said.

The work is being driven by companies such as Maryland-based ARINC Engineering Services Inc., which performs upgrades and modification work on military, commercial and corporate aircraft, airport spokeswoman Karen Carney said. That company recently expanded operations with a second, 60,000-square-foot hangar, and taxiway use has increased accordingly, she said.

The airport started reconstructing taxiway-H in October to allow for heavy aircraft running parallel to the runway. Will Rogers is designated by the Federal Aviation Administration to handle so-called Group 5 aircraft such as Boeing 747s and C-130s, planes that have wingspans of 171-214 feet. ARINC’s new hangar can accommodate three U.S. Air Force KC-135 tanker aircraft under one roof.

The taxiway needed to be moved over at least 500 feet to meet safety standards for those larger planes.

“It hadn’t really been an issue up to this point because the west runway and taxiway-A already meet that criteria for use,” she said.

“But what’s spurred this new work and made it so important is that ARINC and Atlantic Aviation have started to use that taxiway on a more regular basis.”

“The development of that east-side section becomes critical to the companies that may decide to move operations over there,” she said. “Otherwise, as it gets busier and busier, they might run into operational limitations. If they’re working on a Group 5 aircraft, they might have to wait for a Southwest Airlines plane to land before they could taxi.”

During the construction, the airport also is upgrading the pavement from asphalt to concrete. In non-aircraft work, the airport is has been relocating part of Portland Avenue and putting in new water lines. Airport Director Mark Kranenburg said earlier that plans allow for the development of about 1,000 additional acres, with an eye toward eventual retail expansion.

“We want to prepare this piece of land to make it as ready as possible for any opportunity as we market this area to bring new business to Oklahoma City,” Carney said. “We’ve proven to be a good home for them, and we want to make sure that the facilities are top-notch and allow companies such as ARINC to do their business without holdups.”

The taxiway contractor is TTK Construction Co. Airport officials expect the work to be completed by the end of summer, with allowances for severe weather.

[Just the facts]

Out of curiosity, with all this work is there any room left for a third n/s runway?

[venture]

Out of curiosity, with all this work is there any room left for a third n/s runway?

They might still have room on the east side of the airport just to the west of I-44, but it is going to be a tight fit and probably wouldn't permit simultaneous operations. However, I doubt OKC is anywhere near operating capacity to justify a 3rd n/s option right now.

[OUman]

^A few years back OKC did a 20-year masterplan, and if needed (highly doubtful like venture said), the third parallel runway will actually go west of the current west runway, 17R-35L, and south of the crosswind, 13-31. In that configuration it would allow for simultaneous ops.

[ljbab728]

^A few years back OKC did a 20-year masterplan, and if needed (highly doubtful like venture said), the third parallel runway will actually go west of the current west runway, 17R-35L, and south of the crosswind, 13-31. In that configuration it would allow for simultaneous ops.

Yes, there is plenty of room for that on the west side. It would have to be shorter than the other two main runways unless the south end of the runway was much closer to 104th street. It's certainly doable though.