City Manager didn't know there was a problem?

[BOBTHEBUILDER]

For goodness sake lump9816, PAY ATTENTION, the City Manager stated that he knew it had been condemned, and plans were in place to repair it, what he said was that the Union had never voiced any concern to him about the delay in repairs, even though they have serveral meetings about numerous issues.

Do you now understand or should we type slower.

What difference does it make whether or not the Fire Union voiced concern about this fire station. It is the City Managers job to make sure that these worksites stay open to protect the citizens in a timely fashion.
It his job and his 3 assistants jobs too make sure they are in tune with what is going on in this city. We the citizens pay this man and his assistants. Mr. City Manager dont try to pass the buck on this one. You know damn good and well that this station had been shut down for a year and half, chose to do nothing about it, and you got called on it. Maybe he thought the Hispanic community would not notice their fire station being closed or maybe he didnt care. Either way there is no excuse....

[rcjunkie]

What difference does it make whether or not the Fire Union voiced concern about this fire station. It is the City Managers job to make sure that these worksites stay open to protect the citizens in a timely fashion.
It his job and his 3 assistants jobs too make sure they are in tune with what is going on in this city. We the citizens pay this man and his assistants. Mr. City Manager dont try to pass the buck on this one. You know damn good and well that this station had been shut down for a year and half, chose to do nothing about it, and you got called on it. Maybe he thought the Hispanic community would not notice their fire station being closed or maybe he didnt care. Either way there is no excuse....

Now that everyone clearly sees that with the Fire Department IT"S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, and the citizens are tired of it, you stoop to a new low by trying to make it a racial issue. Why am I not suprized.

[iron76hd]

Now that everyone clearly sees that with the Fire Department IT"S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, and the citizens are tired of it, you stoop to a new low by trying to make it a racial issue. Why am I not suprized.

LOL. I have thoughts of the Mayor skipping through bricktown with MY TAX dollars falling out of every pocket as it's funneled through Akerman and Mcqueen. Now who's "SHOW ME THE MONEY". Feel like a sucker rc?

[rcjunkie]

LOL. I have thoughts of the Mayor skipping through bricktown with MY TAX dollars falling out of every pocket as it's funneled through Akerman and Mcqueen. Now who's "SHOW ME THE MONEY". Feel like a sucker rc?

I don't really feel like a sucker, maybe a lolipop, one of those with tootsie roll in the middle.

P.S. see you at the victory party, I'll save the last dance for you!!!

[BOBTHEBUILDER]

Now that everyone clearly sees that with the Fire Department IT"S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, and the citizens are tired of it, you stoop to a new low by trying to make it a racial issue. Why am I not suprized.

Not a racial issue, just a fact. That is the majority of people whom live in that area. It doesnt matter what the nationality of the population in that area is. The problem lies with the City Manager not addressing or knowing that there is a problem there. But thanks for trying to make it a racial issue. lol

I thought that all of the fire department ranting was about adequate levels of staffing, not raises or money. I dont know, you tell me...

[mugofbeer]

So Iron, if MAPS passes, are you putting your house up for sale and moving to Harrah or somewhere?

[jbrown84]

I don't really feel like a sucker, maybe a lolipop, one of those with tootsie roll in the middle.

[bluedogok]

I thought that all of the fire department ranting was about adequate levels of staffing, not raises or money. I dont know, you tell me...

It is about money...for the union,
higher staffing levels = more members = more dues
Whenever the union is involved in something like this it is more than likely about the union leadership desires and not the rank and file concerns.

[Mikemarsh51]

Hey bluedogok, your right about that that's why for the last three weeks, Monday thru Saturday, rank and file have shown up to go out and canvass against maps. Around 50 to 100. We have been doing this at the whim of the leadership. I believe the goal was to make contact with at least 75,000 registered voters. I could be wrong, one of you other guys help me out here!

[jbrown84]

There have been a lot more pro-MAPS volunteers than that and they don't have anyone looking over their shoulder "suggesting" they get out and campaign in favor of the union.

[barnold]

Which is why they are having to bribe the yes people with free thunder tickets or give them paid time off to go and campaign. Yea, that argument really holds water......NOT

[soonerguru]

Which is why they are having to bribe the yes people with free thunder tickets or give them paid time off to go and campaign. Yea, that argument really holds water......NOT

I didn't get paid one red cent. I did get a Maps Yes t-shirt though. You're full of it if you think the volunteers I canvassed with got paid. Sorry to interrupt your little movie.

Oh, and welcome to the board. I see you're working the troll night shift. This is comical to watch.

[betts]

They're not "bribing" volunteers. I volunteered and used my own ticket. But, since the volunteers work during halftime as well, if they don't have a ticket to the game, they're sitting around doing very little while the game is going on. It's nice for them to be able to go in and watch the game between the start of the game and halftime.

I got a slice of pizza when I was assembling signs, if we need to make full disclosure, though.

[barnold]

Troll shift it is then,
I couldn't sleep after puking up my guts after the Mayor's last commercial of lies....and thought I'd give my hand a try a pissing off "OKC's self proclaimed most educated minds". So the offers of paid time off and free thunder tickets to walk the streets for the yes initiative are untrue?

[betts]

I did both for free, that's all I know. I'm becoming rather inured to the attempts to piss us off. After Tuesday, you'll all be gone regardless.

[barnold]

Nah, you won't be rid of many of us until well after city council and mayoral elections. Glad you did it for free though. Me too!

[betts]

I doubt it. You all will probably die of boredom when we return to discussing restoration of downtown buildings, Project 180, Whole Foods rumors and the like. Which is fine by me.

[barnold]

While you do bore me at times, it's better than what I've read in the daily disappointment sans the comics. I've been a long time follower of these blogs but only a recent contributor due to the level of pure ineptness being displayed by the likes of your tribe.

[JustTheFactsPlease]

Which is why they are having to bribe the yes people with free thunder tickets or give them paid time off to go and campaign. Yea, that argument really holds water......NOT

I was quite put off when I went to the Thunder VS Celtics game on Friday and had rude pro MAPS3 people harassing me and trying to shove stuff in my hands - the SEATS even had these crappy pitches on paper for MAPS3 poked into the tops of all the seats and the MAPS3 people were everywhere.

I went to see the Thunder - not get a political point of view shoved down my throat.

That was so wrong in so many ways and I am calling my Thunder Sales Executive on Monday to tell her of my poor experience due to the MAPS3 people.

[rcjunkie]

I was quite put off when I went to the Thunder VS Celtics game on Friday and had rude pro MAPS3 people harassing me and trying to shove stuff in my hands - the SEATS even had these crappy pitches on paper for MAPS3 poked into the tops of all the seats and the MAPS3 people were everywhere.

I went to see the Thunder - not get a political point of view shoved down my throat.

That was so wrong in so many ways and I am calling my Thunder Sales Executive on Monday to tell her of my poor experience due to the MAPS3 people.

And how is that different then the NOT THIS MAPS supporters showing up at shopping malls/stores on black Friday, shoving their pamplets in the faces of Christmas shoppers.

[barnold]

Rc, you make no sense in trying to correlate the two. Did you pay for season tickets or even a single ticket to stand in line during black fri? The NTM folks were handing out coffee and donuts along with their literature to anyone that wanted it. Even gave coffee to those poor cold souls that are die hard yes'ers. You were free to take it or leave it. If you went to the game, it was there for you to throw on the floor. If this isn't a show of private enterprise in a for profit venture I don't know what is.

[rcjunkie]

Rc, you make no sense in trying to correlate the two. Did you pay for season tickets or even a single ticket to stand in line during black fri? The NTM folks were handing out coffee and donuts along with their literature to anyone that wanted it. Even gave coffee to those poor cold souls that are die hard yes'ers. You were free to take it or leave it. If you went to the game, it was there for you to throw on the floor. If this isn't a show of private enterprise in a for profit venture I don't know what is.

When I'm spending time with my family, no matter the location, I don't want to be bothered, just as you ddn't like it the basketball game.

P.S. I have court side, season tickets, and will as long as I'm alive and able to go.

[barnold]

So the yes folks at the game are not a harassment to those that have a different opinion? If the NTM are that much of a bother then perhaps you would be better to stay at home in peace and tranquility or treat all of them as the Hari Krishna's were in the original airplane.

[tehvipir]

its not a last ditch campiagn effort. i do believe that couch didnt know. just like the mayor doesnt know that the city will be safer without as many fireifhgter an okc is no unsafe. I do beleive that they are told by the people under them and maybe they didnt tell them. But nothing changed. we have been wating 10 year for 2 fire stations to be built. its funny that teh city released the moeny to build one just a couple months back though now didnt it.

[jbrown84]

Pretty ridiculous that someone with THUNDER SEASON TICKETS is against MAPS to the point that they complain about some fliers being handed out.