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My wife is a Quilter and also collects quilts. So, for a Good Guy Gift I bought her an antique quilt dated 1909. She is going to enter it in the state fair this year since it is now 100 years old. I tried to do some research on it and by a stroke of luck I actually found who the quilt was made for, the names (friendship quilt) that were on it were found etc. Those people move (covered wagon) from Ohio to the Oklahoma Panhandle and then part of them moved on the La Junta, Colorado. Can you imagine doing that? The quilt was bought in an estate auction and ended up in Springer, New Mexico and then we now have it back Oklahoma....So, from Ohio to Okla. to New Mexico and back to Oklahoma quite a trip for a 100 year old quilt...Huh????
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CAN I QUOTE YOU ON THAT???? Just kidding...We've been married going on 43 years and she's the best friend I have. We have more fun just digging in the small town "Junk" stores than just about anything. Marriage has always been more than a piece of paper and a credit card to us.....Thanks....Generals64.
This may take this tread in a direction it should not go, however I could not decide where to place it if I began a new one so here we go.
The Land run of 1889 is obviously Okie. I understand 120 years is a long time but I was wondering how many people who received free land (Gov. Bailout of 1889) still have that land in their family today?
My guess would be very few.
I had an economics professor years ago state that if you took all of the wealth in America and spread it out equally that it would take a while but most of the money would find its way back home.
Meaning the Capitalist and the person willing to work and take risks would eventually own what you were given free.
I have been searching for people who still own the land their families ran for in 1889.
(if this needs to be moved to political I am sorry and feel free to move it)
Gen64 knows some people and I've know a few who still own their property.
They're capitalists!
Your economics prof was right. Not that capitalism is bad, it's just that
people are greedy and are thrilled at what they believe to be a profit!
Risk takers prosper while "get it now" doesn't.
[QUOTE=NativeOkie;210467]This may take this tread in a direction it should not go, however I could not decide where to place it if I began a new one so here we go.
The Land run of 1889 is obviously Okie. I understand 120 years is a long time but I was wondering how many people who received free land (Gov. Bailout of 1889) still have that land in their family today?
My guess would be very few.
I had an economics professor years ago state that if you took all of the wealth in America and spread it out equally that it would take
I have been searching for people who still own the land their families ran for in 1889.
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Have you any TRUE idea where the actual run of '89 took off in the central part of the state????I have asked this question many times...Some say Purcell but even they don't know exactly where...How about you???
seeing this thread (seems to be retired) I still would like to know the exact location of the land run 1889...Does anyone know?????
Here's a link to Wikipedia. Land Run of 1889
All I know is that it was in central Oklahoma and started around Guthrie, as
the north boundary.
I can look through some books I have for a better description if you need it.
Below info. from:
LAND RUN of 1889
digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/L/LA014.html - 20k
The Unassigned Lands, left vacant in the post-Civil War effort to create reservations for Plains Indians and other tribes, were considered some of the best unoccupied public land in the nation. The surrounding tribal-owned lands included the Cherokee Outlet on the north, bordering Kansas; the Iowa, Kickapoo, and Pottawatomie reservations on the east; and the Cheyenne and Arapaho Reservation on the west. These, too, would later be opened to settlement. To the south lay the Chickasaw Nation.
In the spring of 1889 the largest accumulations of would-be settlers massed in camps at the Kansas border towns, mainly at the railroad towns of Arkansas City and Caldwell. With people being restrained there by U.S. troops, the boomer camps grew larger and larger. On the south, however, long lines of white-sailed wagons wound their way up from Texas directly to the south line of the Unassigned Lands at Purcell in the Chickasaw Nation. From that point many of the settlers moved northward up the eastern line and along the main (south) branch of the Canadian River, which formed the southern boundary of the target area. On the west, clusters of drought-stricken families from the Texas Panhandle and No Man's Land flooded to the boundary near Fort Reno and west of Kingfisher stage station.
The anxious crowds at Arkansas City and Caldwell demanded and received permission to begin on April 18 their journey across the Cherokee Outlet. Following a nighttime rainstorm, U.S. troops began leading long trains of settler wagons over muddy trails across the Cherokee Outlet toward their "promised land." One memorable event during the Arkansas City exodus occurred when the contingent crossed the flooded Salt Fork of the Arkansas River. They tore boards from a nearby Santa Fe Railway station and planked the railroad bridge that spanned the river. Settlers then unhitched their teams, pulled their wagons, and led their horses across the bridge.
The Caldwell crowd, a harmonious and happy conglomeration of ten thousand farmers, cowboys, and old soldiers in buggies, wagons, and on horseback, helped one another ford the Cimarron River before making final camp at Buffalo Springs north of Kingfisher. There on the day before the opening, Easter Sunday, they played baseball, held foot races, and conducted religious services. The frontier fellowship continued that night when the old army-camp call of "Oh, Joe, here's your mule!" circulated from one bed site to another through the darkness.
Many hopeful land-seekers at Arkansas City intended to ride in on the Santa Fe Railway line that crossed the territory through the very heart of the Oklahoma Lands. Similarly, thousands crowded the station at Purcell, filling a special "boomer train" to overflowing.
Rail stations at Guthrie, Edmond, Oklahoma (City), Verbeck (Moore), and Norman, created when the line was built in 1886-87, offered high potential for townsites. Kingfisher, not then a rail town but a land office location like Guthrie, was also a site of choice for settlers and townsite companies.
Although the opening was directed principally to agricultural allotments, many who made the run were just as
There used to be Historical Markers along state highways. Not sure about that today.
I have re-read this thread and I remember so many true "OKIE" plans and things from our past. Yesterday I saw a memory still in existence on south May at what was know as "Sand Town". There is a Railroad car from the Wilson packing company that a family had moved in there a long time ago and lived in it....It's still there along with a few other houses. Some people don't ever want to be called and "OKIE" but I am extremely proud of my heritage....How about you????
People like the ones in old "Sand Town" were the backbone of this nation. They never gave up they kept plowing while others in the nation were jumping out of Business windows....The Okies from back then were there then, through the "Great War"...the second World War and through all other types of problems but, they NEVER gave up.....
I gotta tell this story. I met this guy at work and we got to talking so I ask him where's he's from and he says Texas. I then reply What! Texxasss? And he says please don't hold it against me, I came to Oklahoma as soon as I learned to swim. I LMAO. We became good friends.
Now days a "true okie" is a wetback that made it through Texass.
The markers may not be where the starting line was, but will tell you how far away the actual run started. Many historical sites are on private property.
At one time there were historical markers all around the state. Don't know if they replace them when needed or not. I have tried several times to find the original Ft. Arbuckle. It is west of I35.
My ancestral neck of the woods. My great grandfather got land in Lexington during the land run. I can show you the land. The old homestead used to be on it, now it's a sad little trailer park.
AND we did not come through Texas, came out of Kansas. GreatGrandma stayed in Kansas to deliver my Grandpa who was born Sep. 1889.
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