2024 Oklahoma City Aviation Thread

[LakeEffect]

Interesting. My flight to Atlanta has been changed from a B717 to a B757 which I have never seen in OKC.
Could it be that ? I’m on the 215pm today

That particular aircraft was in Bogota, Columbia yesterday before ATL, then on to OKC. It's coming in from ATL today and turning right back around to ATL before heading to Miami. Very interesting to see a 757 on a regular turn in OKC...

[amocore]

Thank you for telling this not the one which broke down on the way to Houston !

I fly regularly and I have never seen a 757 scheduled in OKC. It has to be the biggest passenger with some A321 in higher density configuration like at Frontier.

[CaptDave]

I think Delta is retiring their B717 fleet. Maybe the 757 will be an OKC regular; certainly the largest passenger aircraft I've ever seen here.

[Jeepnokc]

Not sure of what got switched but my wife's flight the next morning was 830 am-ish and the 530am flight had not departed yet.

[kukblue1]

https://www-griceconnect-com.cdn.amp...-as-39-9562123. Were they doing that poorly that they left OKC. They stayed in Wichita they stayed in Tulsa

[Richard at Remax]

https://flyokc.com/sites/default/fil...nplanement.pdf

Sept Numbers

[BG918]

https://www-griceconnect-com.cdn.amp...-as-39-9562123. Were they doing that poorly that they left OKC. They stayed in Wichita they stayed in Tulsa

Allegiant has a fairly robust route network out of nearby XNA. Likely due to not having to compete with Southwest and higher disposable income in NWA which drives leisure travel.

[The]

Those numbers kinda suck.

[gopokes88]

AA and United killed it. Not sure what the rest were doing.

[s00nr1]

United: Regional Fleet to Become Smaller Part of Airline


https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/10/18/...B2Koc3CJLYSfvg

"Moving forward, he said, United’s regional strategy will involve larger aircraft and fewer frequencies with subsequently lower unit costs."

[shai2022]

Top 50 Unserved Markets in the US. OKC makes the list 3 times... (OKC-San Fran, OKC-BOS, OKC-SD). Can't believe we still haven't gotten OKC-SFO back yet.

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/top...-united-states

[bison34]

Top 50 Unserved Markets in the US. OKC makes the list 3 times... (OKC-San Fran, OKC-BOS, OKC-SD). Can't believe we still haven't gotten OKC-SFO back yet.

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/top...-united-states

Any publicity is good publicity, right?

Sucks that we are on there 3 times.

[Bits_Of_Real_Panther]

Sunday morning I went through a canine screening section before getting to the TSA scanner.

How long have there been canine screenings at Will Roger's Airport?

[HOT ROD]

very surprising there's no Los Angeles connection to Milwaukee. MKE must be the most underserved large city (with OKC #2) since they also missing SFO. At least OKC has Los Angeles and has for a very long time.

Other than MKE-LAX, MKE-SFO and OKC-SFO, none of the others are a surprise given the market size (well, OKC-BOS and OKC-SAN are large). Hopefully OKC can regain SFO (come on United) and strengthen its existing route offering.

[Swake]

very surprising there's no Los Angeles connection to Milwaukee. MKE must be the most underserved large city (with OKC #2) since they also missing SFO. At least OKC has Los Angeles and has for a very long time.

Other than MKE-LAX, MKE-SFO and OKC-SFO, none of the others are a surprise given the market size (well, OKC-BOS and OKC-SAN are large). Hopefully OKC can regain SFO (come on United) and strengthen its existing route offering.

Milwaukee's issue is the airport is only 70 miles from O'Hare.

[BG918]

Not surprised by that list. The two listed for Tulsa (SFO and SEA) are the two highest priority routes the airport is currently working on and will likely use incentives. From the Tulsa World:

The Oklahoma Aerospace and Aeronautics Commission on Wednesday made the award from the Progressing Rural Economic Prosperity Fund. The $2 million, plus $500,000 from the Tulsa Community Foundation, will be used to guarantee a minimum level of revenue for each nonstop flight.

Tulsa International Airport officials hope the funding will help secure a contract with an airline to create a nonstop route to San Francisco, Seattle, San Diego, Boston or Cancun.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/bu...d4c99c28d.html

[bison34]

Not surprised by that list. The two listed for Tulsa (SFO and SEA) are the two highest priority routes the airport is currently working on and will likely use incentives. From the Tulsa World:



https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/bu...d4c99c28d.html

I wonder if OKC is getting any of these funds for incentives.

[VeggieMeat]

I wonder if OKC is getting any of these funds for incentives.

$2M grant to OKC for new commercial service for one or more new routes including San Francisco, San Diego, Washington Dulles, Boston, or a destination in Mexico

[bison34]

$2M grant to OKC for new commercial service for one or more new routes including San Francisco, San Diego, Washington Dulles, Boston, or a destination in Mexico

Good deal!

[brianinok]

Anyone in the industry have an inkling if United is done adding routes for summer 2025, or if we could still get SFO added by then? Seem to me it's just a matter of time. The rates people pay likely support it, and we know the route was successful before from a load perspective. If United doesn't feel they have a RJ available it might have to wait until they get more mainline delivered to shuffle around aircraft.

[BG918]

Southwest is adding a nonstop from Colorado Springs to Cancun this spring. Hopefully this is the beginning of Southwest doing more P2P flying from secondary markets like OKC and TUL to CUN, PVR and SJD.

[bison34]

Ouch. The disrespect is real.

[Celebrator]

Ouch. The disrespect is real.

No, the numbers in COS are real. Now, I can't tell if you're joking with these posts or you just don't get it.

COS got the flights to CUN probably because they have the numbers to make it go and likely got incentives from the local or state gov'ts to make it happen as well. The Front Range has over 5 million in population, so if their DEN-CUN numbers have plenty of COS connecting pax already, then they know it will work out of COS nonstop and those folks now don't have to make that drive up I-25 or that absurdly short flight to connect in DEN. There is big Mexico leisure traffic from the Front Range--people love to go down and warm up during those Colorado winters.

It's not disrespect for OKC, man, c'mon. Do you really think that's how a major airline route planning team does their work--based on respect and disrespect for markets?

[Richard at Remax]

It's also once a week on a Saturday. Something I would expect to be similar to what OKC gets in the future.

[BG918]

It's also once a week on a Saturday. Something I would expect to be similar to what OKC gets in the future.

Agree that is likely where an international leisure flight to Mexico starts. The fact that Southwest is starting this flight gives hope that they will look a similar secondary markets for international routes in the next few years.