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  1. #1

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    Does a 15 year old have the right to tell you to get out of there room if you are going in there to let an animal out? Last I knew it was me that owned the house not them am I wrong in my thinking on this?

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    No
    No question about it.

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    My house rules: Unless you pay the bills and/or otherwise contribute to the household in a meaningful way - you are simply a temporary guest in my home. How temporary? Exert rights you perceive but don't actually have and you'll quickly find out how temporary your guest status is.

    Same rules my parents placed on me. So, me and my big britches moved out as a teen (and sorely regretted it). Same thing happened with our teen. He now admits and tells his friends - "stay at home as long as you can, the real world is a b*&ch!"

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    Sounds like a very nice and loving home you guys have there. Hope your kids will show you much more love and kindness when they get older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyW View Post
    Sounds like a very nice and loving home you guys have there. Hope your kids will show you much more love and kindness when they get older.
    Actually, its the deep appreciation of those very rules that I was raised under that gave me full confidence to raise our son under those same rules. And, as pointed out, at 23 he now very much appreciates how he was raised and expresses often he wishes he would have followed the rules that were plainly and consistently made known to him. I imagine he will instill the same in his household one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    Actually, its the deep appreciation of those very rules that I was raised under that gave me full confidence to raise our son under those same rules. And, as pointed out, at 23 he now very much appreciates how he was raised and expresses often he wishes he would have followed the rules that were plainly and consistently made known to him. I imagine he will instill the same in his household one day.
    I would not be surprised if there are times he looks back and wishes his parents would of been just a bit more approachable and nicer. He wouldn't admit it or maybe he doesn't ever think it, but just maybe it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyW View Post
    Sounds like a very nice and loving home you guys have there. Hope your kids will show you much more love and kindness when they get older.
    Sounds like you are the 15 year old in this scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMonk View Post
    Sounds like you are the 15 year old in this scenario.
    Negative. I just know that I would rather have a more loving and caring parents that were open and honest with me. It would make me much more willing to come home and see them and show them love when I got older and wiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyW View Post
    Negative. I just know that I would rather have a more loving and caring parents that were open and honest with me. It would make me much more willing to come home and see them and show them love when I got older and wiser.
    What is un-open and dishonest about making it clear that the child does not make the rules in the home? It really seems like you are reading something more into this and are being awfully judgmental.

    Do you think a 15 year old has the right to demand that their parent leaves their room in the original scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyW View Post
    Negative. I just know that I would rather have a more loving and caring parents that were open and honest with me. It would make me much more willing to come home and see them and show them love when I got older and wiser.
    I firmly believe that one of the most loving, caring and stress free homes you can create is the one where not only are the rules very clear but they are consistently enforced. Rules that are no more difficult to grasp than being honest, being respectful and doing your best.

    JohnnyW you know absolutely nothing of our rules or our household or our family dynamics - but you have zero problem making assumptions out of whole cloth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    I firmly believe that one of the most loving, caring and stress free homes you can create is the one where not only are the rules very clear but they are consistently enforced. Rules that are no more difficult to grasp than being honest, being respectful and doing your best.
    These dads can testify to that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    I firmly believe that one of the most loving, caring and stress free homes you can create is the one where not only are the rules very clear but they are consistently enforced. Rules that are no more difficult to grasp than being honest, being respectful and doing your best.

    JohnnyW you know absolutely nothing of our rules or our household or our family dynamics - but you have zero problem making assumptions out of whole cloth.
    For the logical people out there, this is what is called a "Strawman". This gentleman puts up a defense of something that I haven't said anything about. All I have stated was that I would rather come home to parents that were more loving to me and this gentlemen goes on to state that I have wrongly written out his family dynamics in this thread. If he could kindly point me to the post where I listed out his family dynamics, then we could begin a discussion but I would ask that he not take the time because he will not find said post.

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    I would think some of it depends on how you entered the room. If you just walked in without knocking I can understand them saying that but if you knocked first then they were out of line. I raised a couple girls and I always got the evil eye when I went into their room. I did knock and say it was time to let the dog out but for the most part I think that's somewhat normal for a teen that age, especially if it's a girl. This is not saying I wouldn't check the room out later to see if anything was going on

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    I hope that advancements in intelligence, technology and communication will soon triumph over tradition of old. Just like corporal punishment, just because it works does not mean it is the best way to do things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyW View Post
    I hope that advancements in intelligence, technology and communication will soon triumph over tradition of old. Just like corporal punishment, just because it works does not mean it is the best way to do things.
    There's a "Catch 22" or paradox in your statement: Technological advancements seem to be causing decreases in both intelligence and actual communication on a personal level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    There's a "Catch 22" or paradox in your statement: Technological advancements seem to be causing decreases in both intelligence and actual communication on a personal level.
    So you are saying people in the 1920s were as well informed of the politics, weather, family and friends doings? And they were also more in contact and in communication with everyone they knew even if they lived a 1000 miles away?

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    He put the cat in his room and shut his door as he was coming out of his room and I got up and opened it to let the cat out so that it wouldn't claw at the carpet around the door tearing it up. I then walked in to his room looking for the cat that is when he came up behind me telling me to get out of his room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie40 View Post
    He put the cat in his room and shut his door as he was coming out of his room and I got up and opened it to let the cat out so that it wouldn't claw at the carpet around the door tearing it up. I then walked in to his room looking for the cat that is when he came up behind me telling me to get out of his room.
    Now there is more info I would have said when you pay rent it's your room, until then it's mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    Now there is more info I would have said when you pay rent it's your room, until then it's mine.
    Couldn't have said that because that would have sent him on a tirade. that would have escalated more than it was worth. I just walked off talking under my breath, he frequently tell both his mom and me step dad to shut up and stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie40 View Post
    Couldn't have said that because that would have sent him on a tirade. that would have escalated more than it was worth. I just walked off talking under my breath, he frequently tell both his mom and me step dad to shut up and stuff like that.
    I remember as a teen back talking my step mother once. The key word is once. Never knew my dad could move that fast and I never did it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    I remember as a teen back talking my step mother once. The key word is once. Never knew my dad could move that fast and I never did it again.
    I remember "Lava" hand soap. I think I was 8 or 9 years old. "Once" was all it took for me (for talking back). Got paddled "Once," too (for walking down the wrong side of the street). Also, got whooped by my Jr. High School Principal, "Once," (for punching a kid after he slugged a girl).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie40 View Post
    Couldn't have said that because that would have sent him on a tirade. that would have escalated more than it was worth. I just walked off talking under my breath, he frequently tell both his mom and me step dad to shut up and stuff like that.
    Sounds like he's a real problem... good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie40 View Post
    Couldn't have said that because that would have sent him on a tirade. that would have escalated more than it was worth. I just walked off talking under my breath, he frequently tell both his mom and me step dad to shut up and stuff like that.
    That is a sure sign that you are not in control of your household.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie40 View Post
    He put the cat in his room and shut his door as he was coming out of his room and I got up and opened it to let the cat out so that it wouldn't claw at the carpet around the door tearing it up. I then walked in to his room looking for the cat that is when he came up behind me telling me to get out of his room.
    Then yes, he was out of line.

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    Sounds like you have already somewhat lost control of your child.

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