Nba all star game (okc)

[Charlie]

Is it me or does the construction of all the hotels within the metro area, mixed with the completion of the Convention Center, Hotel, Boulevard, Scissor Tail Park in 2021 and hopefully the transformation of the Producers Co Op Oil Mill, put us in the perfect position to host the NBA All Star Game within the next 6 to 7 years?

[barrettd]

Is it me or does the construction of all the hotels within the metro area, mixed with the completion of the Convention Center, Hotel, Boulevard, Scissor Tail Park in 2021 and hopefully the transformation of the Producers Co Op Oil Mill, put us in the perfect position to host the NBA All Star Game within the next 6 to 7 years?

I was under the impression we would have to have a lot more hotel space to even be considered. Not sure if the recent and current work is getting us closer to that number. I thought I remembered Pete commenting on that a while back.

[Laramie]

The NBA requires the host city to have a minimum 5,500 hotel rooms; preferably 6,000 to host the game, and the league would like most of those to be within 1 to 1.25 miles of the host arena.

Oklahoma City will have close to 4,500+ hotel rooms come 2020:

2,770 current
__563 under construction
1,184 planned
4,517

Restaurants in the core near the arena will need to stay open until 10 p.m.--Bricktown & Midtown could accommodate that weekend.

The payoff for hosting an NBA All-Star Game is substantial. The game scores the host city about $60 million in visitor spending. The economic impact to the event generates about $100 million.

Los Angeles 2018
Charlotte 2019
Chicago 2020
Indianapolis 2021
TBD 2022, 2023, 2024

Only four current NBA franchises have never hosted an NBA All-Star Game: the Memphis Grizzlies, Oklahoma City Thunder, Portland Trail Blazers & Sacramento Kings.


Memphis

Oklahoma City

Portland

Sacramento

OKC is probably in better shape toward meeting the minimum hotel rooms by 2024 than Sacramento & Memphis.

[Laramie]

Sacramento: Kings open Golden 1 Center, eye potential All-Star bid in 2020: http://www.nba.com/article/2016/10/2...ll-star-game#/

Portland: Portland Trail Blazers All-Star Game bids denied by NBA: http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/in...denied_by.html

[Bellaboo]

Our best chance will be when we have a new state of the art arena....... over on the Cox Site. Which is many years away.

[Jersey Boss]

Goes without saying that the minimum number of hotel rooms is not static.

[dcsooner]

Is it me or does the construction of all the hotels within the metro area, mixed with the completion of the Convention Center, Hotel, Boulevard, Scissor Tail Park in 2021 and hopefully the transformation of the Producers Co Op Oil Mill, put us in the perfect position to host the NBA All Star Game within the next 6 to 7 years?

No, you must be joking! lol There is more to hosting that event than hotel rooms. What view of OKC are you seeing.? I see inadequate flights, no national cache, no venues for a African American dominated sport, OKC is light years away from hosting an event of that magnitude. Remember even DS told MC to seek the NHL, we were really lucky to even get a team due to circumstaces

[OKCRT]

No, you must be joking! lol There is more to hosting that event than hotel rooms. What view of OKC are you seeing.? I see inadequate flights, no national cache, no venues for a African American dominated sport, OKC is light years away from hosting an event of that magnitude. Remember even DS told MC to seek the NHL, we were really lucky to even get a team due to circumstaces

Build a couple nice casino/hotels and a few strip clubs on that Co-Op site and maybe just maybe

[d-usa]

I’m always curious what these “African American” venues are that we need.

[5alive]

^^^^^

[Jake]

I hear Indianapolis' huge amount of African American venues is how they landed it in 2021.

Maybe we should have a push to get them part of the next MAPS?

[dcsooner]

I’m always curious what these “African American” venues are that we need.

Ask Black People, or better yet drive through NE OKC and tell me if OKC has a vibrant Black community. That side of town just got a simple grocery store.

[d-usa]

You are talking about our lack of black venues, so feel free to share what the actual black venues are that we are missing.

No point being cryptic about it, just say “we need more X and Y”.

[jonny d]

Ask Black People, or better yet drive through NE OKC and tell me if OKC has a vibrant Black community. That side of town just got a simple grocery store.

Not one single, solitary NBA All-star would go there anyway. Not in a million years. They don't care about things like that when picking the all-star site.

[dcsooner]

I hear Indianapolis' huge amount of African American venues is how they landed it in 2021.

Maybe we should have a push to get them part of the next MAPS?

I used to live in Indianapolis, my brother still lives there. My wife. is from Indiana, Indianapolis is far ahead of OKC . Larger airport, black population. hotel count, convention center, convention center hotel, 1.000 rooms, restaurants. Indy was a boring place in 1989-1996 when I lived there, used to be called India no where and Naptown, but through great leadership at the Mayoral level revised its image. Mayors like Hudnut, established Unigov and sought to make Indy a sports mecca, which it has become and led to other growth. (see colts move, ncaa move, super bowl, indy 500, bricktown 500, now nba all star game. Oh and Indys black population is approaching 300K in the city, as many as the entire state of Oklahoma. Even with all that, Indy is not perceived as an NBA destination. see Paul George

[ABCOKC]

I used to live in Indianapolis, my brother still lives there. My wife. is from Indiana, Indianapolis is far ahead of OKC . Larger airport, black population. hotel count, convention center, convention center hotel, 1.000 rooms, restaurants. Indy was a boring place in 1989-1996 when I lived there, used to be called India no where and Naptown, but through great leadership at the Mayoral level revised its image. Mayors like Hudnut, established Unigov and sought to make Indy a sports mecca, which it has become and led to other growth. (see colts move, ncaa move, super bowl, indy 500, bricktown 500, now nba all star game. Oh and Indys black population is approaching 300K in the city, as many as the entire state of Oklahoma. Even with all that, Indy is not perceived as an NBA destination. see Paul George

Can't tell if this is satire or the ramblings of a legitimately deranged, racist old man

[d-usa]

All I'm really getting out of this is that apparently black people don't care about a damn thing in Oklahoma City, and that all the black athletes in the NBA will refuse to spend a single weekend in Oklahoma City because they can't go 3 days without hanging out in their "black venues", whatever that might mean.

I don't think anybody is inclined to think that Oklahoma City is some kind of black destination city, or a beacon for interracial harmony and tolerance that the rest of the country can aim to emulate. But I'm really just trying to figure out what these "black venues" are that I keep on hearing about, even though they don't actually get named.

[dcsooner]

Listen, the point is IMO, OKC has a very long way to go to host an NBA ALL STAR game for a plethora of reasons. If you would read my entire post many of those reasons were listed.

[Urbanized]

I’ve had a difficult time imagining ever agreeing with dcsooner on two things in the same thread, but here we are. He’s completely right about two things:

1. OKC is light years away from being able to host an NBA Allstar game, and
2. Indianapolis is considerably ahead of OKC as a city

Beyond that, his take is pretty much garbage. Particularly the ridiculous racial stuff. And that’s not at all to say that OKC doesn’t have plenty of work to do to bring back the NE side or to encourage diversity in entertainment and cultural options.

But the litmus test has nothing to do with AA-focused clubs or whatever else; it’s about hotel rooms, flights, and entertainment in general. The Allstar game is moving in the direction of residing only in the largest markets, 24/7 entertainment cities. And OKC would be completely overwhelmed. It’s nothing like even the NBA Finals. It is a giant circus, with tens of thousands in town who are here just to be AROUND the game and with no plans to even go.

I’m one of the biggest OKC homer boosters on this board, but honestly with this topic would stop even being brought up here. We have zero shot. None. Thankfully.

[gopokes88]

Listen, the point is IMO, OKC has a very long way to go to host an NBA ALL STAR game for a plethora of reasons. If you would read my entire post many of those reasons were listed.

2024 is a long way away

[Bellaboo]

No, you must be joking! lol There is more to hosting that event than hotel rooms. What view of OKC are you seeing.? I see inadequate flights, no national cache, no venues for a African American dominated sport, OKC is light years away from hosting an event of that magnitude. Remember even DS told MC to seek the NHL, we were really lucky to even get a team due to circumstaces

Our African American and all other races are welcome in all venues in OKC. There are no restrictions according to race, ethnicities or any religious indifferences.

[king183]

I hear Indianapolis' huge amount of African American venues is how they landed it in 2021.

Maybe we should have a push to get them part of the next MAPS?

Hahaha. Love it.

[dankrutka]

As has been pointed, there's certainly a worthwhile discussion about whether OKC appeals to African-Americans and other groups in general (not that any group is a monolith). It's certainly important for cities to appeal to a variety of groups. For example, I am sure that Vietnamese-Americans appreciate that OKC has a thriving Asian district. There is no question that there are a lot of cities where many African Americans may feel more welcomed, honored, and represented than OKC. That's a worthwhile discussion.

Unfortunately, the ways dcsooner presented the argument pretty much guaranteed that it wouldn't be productive. For example, stating that OKC has "no venues" wasn't explained at all, but actually could have led to a good discussion with any explanation or examples.

Aside from hotels, there are a lot of events (e.g., comedy shows, concerts, parties) held around the All-Star game. OKC is moving in the right direction as it now has many more venues for such events (e.g., Jones Assembly, Tower Theater, Criterion, Brocktown Events Center). Could those venues meet help or is something else needed? That's a good discussion. The streetcar doesn't hurt either as it would connect people to more places easily. But, as others have said, I think the All-Star game city has to be appealing to people and OKC may struggle in that area despite some improvements in terms of culture, inclusiveness, highend hotel options, etc.

[Laramie]

Any city that is awarded the NBA All Star Classic can adjust and add flights for the the event based on the the airport in that city. Will Rogers World Airport is capable of handling additional flights especially charters.

NBA All Stars; these millionaires are going to seek out the best venues in any host All Star City; they don't segregate themselves to black venues.

Agree with Gopokes88; 2024 is 6 years down the road; expect OKC to submit a bid around 2021 for the 2024 event--we'll have a completely different city with MAPS 3 projects completed.

[Jake]

Like a lot have said, OKC simply doesn't have the room capacity, airport capacity, entertainment venues, etc. to warrant an All-Star Game.

Maybe in 20ish years? But at that point, who knows what the league would look like anyway. And it's not like other host cities that would compete against OKC would stop growing in that same time span.

What we need is something that's completely feasible and would make OKC stand out from the pack.....we need to build that 217-foot Native American statue by the river!!!