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    No 'bama? Wow

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    Always thought Notre Dame was the pinnacle of college football/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackmoreRulz View Post
    Always thought Notre Dame was the pinnacle of college football/.

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    1 | Ohio State | 1,510,482,000
    2 | Texas | 1,243,124,000
    3 | Oklahoma | 1,001,967,000
    4 | Alabama | 930,001,000
    5 | LSU | 910,927,000
    6 | Michigan | 892,951,000
    7 | Notre Dame | 856,938,000
    8 | Georgia | 822,310,000
    9 | Tennessee | 745,640,000
    10 | Auburn | 724,191,000
    11 | Florida | 682,031,000
    12 | Penn State | 549,497,000
    13 | Texas A & M | 522,863,000
    14 | Nebraska | 507,679,000
    15 | South Carolina | 484,757,000
    16 | Iowa | 483,564,000
    17 | Arkansas | 456,153,000
    18 | Wisconsin | 439,379,000
    19 | Washington | 434,313,000
    20 | Florida State | 385,339,000
    21 | Oregon | 368,529,000
    22 | Michigan State | 336,794,000
    23 | Mississippi | 330,503,000
    24 | Clemson | 328,411,000
    25 | Southern California | 324,195,000
    26 | Arizona State | 315,412,000
    27 | UCLA | 314,436,000
    28 | Kentucky | 287,589,000
    29 | Oklahoma State | 285,293,000
    30 | Kansas State | 277,203,000
    31 | Virginia Tech | 269,883,000
    32 | Minnesota | 260,264,000
    33 | Miami of Florida | 254,502,000
    34 | Texas Tech | 246,871,000
    35 | Miss State | 230,655,000
    36 | Stanford | 225,479,000
    37 | California Berkely | 220,017,000
    38 | Georgia Tech | 212,068,000
    39 | Utah | 206,365,000
    40 | Colorado | 203,533,000
    41 | Iowa State | 196,973,000
    42 | North Carolina State | 191,813,000
    43 | Kansas | 183,031,000
    44 | Indiana | 178,168,000
    45 | Virginia | 168,534,000
    46 | Northwestern | 163,315,000
    47 | Louisville | 160,899,000
    48 | Texas Christian | 153,631,000
    49 | Maryland | 147,608,000
    50 | North Carolina | 147,179,000
    51 | Arizona | 146,153,000
    52 | Oregon State | 144,713,000
    53 | Illinois | 143,318,000
    54 | Wash State | 142,052,000
    55 | Purdue | 135,021,000
    56 | Missouri | 126,219,000
    57 | Syracuse | 120,903,000
    58 | Pittsburgh | 114,468,000
    59 | Baylor | 103,591,000
    60 | BYU | 98,924,000
    61 | Central Florida | 82,302,000
    62 | Boston College | 82,241,000
    63 | Boise State | 77,981,000
    64 | Vanderbilt | 73,991,000
    65 | Rutgers | 72,441,000
    66 | West Virginia | 72,049,000
    67 | South Florida | 70,189,000
    68 | Duke | 64,195,000
    69 | Connecticut | 59,776,000
    70 | Wake Forest | 52,940,000
    71 | Houston | 41,386,000
    72 | Temple | 40,669,000
    73 | Army | 38,048,000
    74 | Southern Methodist | 36,047,000
    75 | Wyoming | 34,554,000
    76 | Memphis | 32,290,000
    77 | Cincinnati | 30,230,000
    78 | Colorado State | 30,221,000
    79 | Fresno State | 29,325,000
    80 | North Texas | 29,266,000
    81 | East Carolina | 28,408,000
    82 | San Diego State | 27,716,000
    83 | Hawaii | 26,284,000
    84 | Florida International | 24,145,000
    85 | Ohio | 22,302,000
    86 | UNLV | 21,772,000
    87 | Marshall | 21,483,000
    88 | Rice | 21,453,000
    89 | San Jose State | 21,370,000
    90 | Akron | 20,235,000
    91 | UTEP | 19,344,000
    92 | Middle Tennessee | 19,322,000
    93 | Toledo | 18,736,000
    94 | Utah State | 18,305,000
    95 | Nevada | 17,478,000
    96 | Western Michigan | 17,134,000
    97 | Western Kentucky | 16,532,000
    98 | Northern Illinois | 16,141,000
    99 | Buffalo | 16,090,000
    100 | New Mexico | 15,380,000
    101 | Southern Miss | 15,037,000
    102 | Troy | 14,879,000
    103 | Central Michigan | 14,350,000
    104 | Florida Atlantic | 13,221,000
    105 | Ball State | 12,701,000
    106 | Miami - Ohio | 12,187,000
    107 | Louisiana Lafayette | 11,829,000
    108 | Eastern Michigan | 11,563,000
    109 | Kent State | 11,060,000
    110 | Louisiana Tech | 10,836,000
    111 | Idaho | 10,513,000
    112 | New Mexico State | 10,180,000
    113 | Bowling Green | 9,915,000
    114 | Arkansas State | 8,787,000
    115 | Louisiana Monroe | 6,792,000

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    Why is Tulsa excluded from the list?

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    I think my Jayhawks might be way over-valued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    Why is Tulsa excluded from the list?
    Lol

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    I'd have to imagine that, even given its small size, Tulsa would be valued more than at least New Mexico State and Buffalo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    Why is Tulsa excluded from the list?
    Apparently not worth anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    I'd have to imagine that, even given its small size, Tulsa would be valued more than at least New Mexico State and Buffalo.
    Is it because they are a private university and don't have available numbers for people to look at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    I'd have to imagine that, even given its small size, Tulsa would be valued more than at least New Mexico State and Buffalo.
    I believe Tulsa is the one of the smallest, if not the smallest based on student population. Who supports universities? Allum. Who doesn't have very many? Tulsa...

    That's probably the answer more than anything since Tulsa really doesn't stand out particularly in the marketable sports.

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    Tulsa is small, but why would they stop the rankings at 115 and leave off the final 10 or so programs? That doesn't make sense. Other private schools are included, but maybe TU just didn't provide the necessary information...

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    Does anyone have the criteria for which these programs were evaluated, weighted & graded?

    It's obvious that stadiums weren't apart of the evaluations, because Tulsa's Chapman Stadium recently underwent a $25 million renovation.

    "Tulsa set to debut new-look stadium against Lobos" - http://newsok.com/article/3299214

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    Not to mention Tulsa has had way more success than many of those schools, especially in recent years. Since 2000 they have at least one conference championship, several division championships, they have played in multiple bowls (with a winning record in bowls since 2000, I think), and they have been nationally ranked. There must be an oversight or information discrepancy somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    Does anyone have the criteria for which these programs were evaluated, weighted & graded?
    IIRC, it was originally a Wall Street Journal article, but I didn't link that because it was behind a pay wall. I don't know if they revealed the methodology in that article or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    Not to mention Tulsa has had way more success than many of those schools, especially in recent years. Since 2000 they have at least one conference championship, several division championships, they have played in multiple bowls (with a winning record in bowls since 2000, I think), and they have been nationally ranked. There must be an oversight or information discrepancy somewhere.
    It's a valuation. Sure W-L and championships goes into it, but that's not the only thing. Just look at the Dallas Cowboys. Until last year they'd been a solid 8-8 team for about a decade yet they were always one of the top 5 valued professional sports teams in the world. I think Dallas was ranked #1 this year worth about $4.5 Billion.

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    ^^^^^^^^
    Doesn't change the fact that Tulsa is historically more successful than a number of those programs by pretty much every metric. There is a reason why only a very few schools were excluded from the list, and it has to be due to a lack of data or something like that. I'm certainly no Tulsa alum/fan/homer; just stating the very obvious.

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    But I think this list was more of a "business success" measure than an on the field measure. I mean, Texas A&M is near the top of the list, so....

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    ^^^^^^
    Well again, by what measure? Tulsa's average attendance is around 20K and nearly twice of Northern Illinois, for instance (ranked 98/115). Many of the schools at the bottom of that list are MAC schools, and their numbers are abysmal: http://www.crainscleveland.com/artic...west-among-fbs

    SPOILER: the ENTIRE CONFERENCE averages around 16K.

    Seriously, there is a reason some schools are not included and I'm assuming the simple answer is that there was data missing for their programs, for whatever reason.

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    From that article:

    In fact, of the 128 FBS programs, the MAC accounted for four of the bottom six and nine of the bottom 20 in attendance. Ball State was last in the FBS with a norm of 7,789, and Northern Illinois (down 21% to 11,019), Kent State (down 13% to 10,898) and Akron (down 43% to 10,337) ranked 123rd, 124th and 125th, respectively.

    Also in the bottom 20: Eastern Michigan (109th), Buffalo (110th, at 17,493), Central Michigan (111th), Miami (113th) and Bowling Green (117th, at 15,140).

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    Again I ask, if you are tossing out on-the-field results over the past 20 years, AND you are tossing out attendance, AND you are talking about schools that for the most part don't have historic relevance or tradition (which a school like - for instance - Army DOES have), what metric do you have left? Do more people buy Bowling Green team gear than buy Tulsa team gear? Is that the measuring stick?

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    Urbanized, I am sure you're correct that they just didn't have the data for Tulsa, which would surely be ranked above a number of schools on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    Again I ask, if you are tossing out on-the-field results over the past 20 years, AND you are tossing out attendance, AND you are talking about schools that for the most part don't have historic relevance or tradition (which a school like - for instance - Army DOES have), what metric do you have left? Do more people buy Bowling Green team gear than buy Tulsa team gear? Is that the measuring stick?
    Probably yes. Per your example, Bowling Green has enrollment north of 15,000, while Tulsa is still south of 5,000. For Tulsa (in particular) it really is a numbers game. And in this particular circumstance, it doesn't help bring in the revenue. That and they are in a state where a healthy portion of the population is either wearing crimson and cream or orange and black. Bowling Green is in a small town too (31k) yet still draws nearly 20k a contest. There is obviously some interest in that school, and headcount does matter.

    And you can't really say that results don't have any bearing. Alabama isn't up there without it's recent success. But they have been able to monetize on the field success.

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    OSU is in a small town (Stillwater) with a population of 50,000; their program ranks 29 | Oklahoma State | 285,293,000 behind 28 Kentucky & 27 UCLA; yet ahead of Kansas State, Virginia Tech, Minnesota & some notable programs like Miami (FL), Colorado & Missouri.

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