Scissortail Park

[Pete]

What's the timeline for closing off and removing the intersectional streets?

In a presentation to City Council yesterday, they said construction on Phase I (basic park) would be Summer 2013; so less than a year from now.

They also said they will soon begin acquiring land for the park south of the interstate. I was under the impression the south park was not part of MAPS 3, so I don't understand why this would be part of what they are doing now and they seem to plan on spending MAPS 3 funds to do it.

[G.Walker]

In a presentation to City Council yesterday, they said construction on Phase I (basic park) would be Summer 2013; so less than a year from now.

They also said they will soon begin acquiring land for the park south of the interstate. I was under the impression the south park was not part of MAPS 3, so I don't understand why this would be part of what they are doing now and they seem to plan on spending MAPS 3 funds to do it.

The south park is part of MAPS3:

Budget

Upper Section Land Acquisition and Site Prep $18,432,000
Upper Section Phase 1 A&E/Design/Testing/Admin $1,431,000
Upper Section Phase 1 Construction and FF&E $8,374,000
Upper Section Phase 1 Project Contingency $539,000
Upper Section Phase 2 A&E/Design/Testing/Admin $10,393,000
Upper Section Phase 2 Construction and FF&E $57,652,000
Upper Section Phase 2 Project Contingency $3,710,000
Lower Section Land Acquisition and Site Prep $13,470,000
Lower Section A&E/Design/Testing/Admin $3,105,000
Lower Section Construction and FF&E $14,151,000
Lower Section Project Contingency $911,000

Total $132,168,000

[Pete]

Thanks for the info.

It's good we are doing this so far in advance. The C2S stuff will only take shape with these parks largely in place.

[metro]

Just tossing this out there for an idea for our park. I absolutely love this.


https://plus.google.com/photos/10348...62498457951298

Barry will be implementing those mandatory in his 2nd term, but seriously those are cool!

[kevinpate]

political barf cleanup on aisle three please. barf cleanup on aisle three please.



back on topic .. last time I was in OKC I drove around the upper park area. Aside from Union Station, it's got no where to go but up. I look forward to taking the next generation there for playtime in a few years.

[architect5311]

I was in Overland Park Kansas this past weekend attending one of my daughter's soccer tournaments. They have a world class soccer complex there. OKC and the proposed new Central Park could benefit from having a venue like this. It would be a great draw and revenue generating facility. Hosting regional tournaments and local soccer club activities year round...

Link Overland Park Soccer Complex...

About the Soccer Complex – City of Overland Park

[Just the facts]

I was in Overland Park Kansas this past weekend attending one of my daughter's soccer tournaments. They have a world class soccer complex there. OKC and the proposed new Central Park could benefit from having a venue like this. It would be a great draw and revenue generating facility. Hosting regional tournaments and local soccer club activities year round...

That is what is proposed (or atleast was at one time) for Prominade Park that will be on the south side of I-40 (connected by the I-40 pedestrian bridge).

[OKCisOK4me]

That is what is proposed (or atleast was at one time) for Prominade Park that will be on the south side of I-40 (connected by the I-40 pedestrian bridge).

Could you refresh my memory with old renderings if they are at your disposal? Thanks.

[Just the facts]

Could you refresh my memory with old renderings if they are at your disposal? Thanks.

You can see it here. Sorry, it is a big file. The northwest part of the park has 6 soccer fields. There are also 4 baseball fields adjacent and 2 tennis courts and 2 basketball courts near by. You can see them on Pg 48 of the PDF file.

http://www.okc.gov/planning/coretosh...ePlan_2008.pdf

[catcherinthewry]

I was in Overland Park Kansas this past weekend attending one of my daughter's soccer tournaments. They have a world class soccer complex there. OKC and the proposed new Central Park could benefit from having a venue like this. It would be a great draw and revenue generating facility. Hosting regional tournaments and local soccer club activities year round...

Link Overland Park Soccer Complex...

About the Soccer Complex – City of Overland Park

We already have that at South Lakes Park. City of Oklahoma City | South Lakes Park

[catcherinthewry]

It is such a beautiful park! It's just too bad it is in Texas.

I can see where it can be confusing but South Lakes is at SW 119th & Meridian.

[Bellaboo]

It is such a beautiful park! It's just too bad it is in Texas.

It's just south of Will Rogers airport a few miles.

[ethansisson]

It is such a beautiful park! It's just too bad it is in Texas.

Don't worry, Sid. I got the joke.

[Larry OKC]

WOW. We have had this since 2004???

[Just the facts]

I was going to ask too if there was a stop for it on the Amtrak line. But wasn't sure enough people even knew we had one of those. ;-)

If we did it would take 9 hours to get there.

All joking aside, this is where the really large parks should be going, but you shouldn't have to drive your car to it. If anything, this park is way to small. It should be at least 10X to 20X as big as it is and connected to the urban core via an interurban line.

[BoulderSooner]

I was going to ask too if there was a stop for it on the Amtrak line. But wasn't sure enough people even knew we had one of those. ;-)

yes lots of soccer teams are going to walk to a game ...

[Just the facts]

yes lots of soccer teams are going to walk to a game ...

They do in Europe (and the rest of the world for that matter). Maybe that is why their soccer teams are better than ours.

[BoulderSooner]

So you are telling me I didn't walk to the soccer games in Seattle? Or simply that you wouldn't?

i'm telling you that in a soccer complex with 16 fields is going to have lots of people drive to the game no matter where you locate it

[BoulderSooner]

So you are telling me I didn't walk to the soccer games in Seattle? Or simply that you wouldn't?

show me where i said that ..... ? do you think that you are in the majority or minority?

[jedicurt]

So you are telling me I didn't walk to the soccer games in Seattle? Or simply that you wouldn't?

Yes, i am telling you that... you skipped merrily... you did not walk!

[ethansisson]

show me where i said that ..... ? do you think that you are in the majority or minority?

There's nothing special about majority or minority. Heck, our government system is even designed to protect the interests of minorities in the face of oppression by majorities (this is why we have a Republican Democracy). The fact that a majority of people currently prefer to drive does not mean we should continue to mindlessly perpetuate and prefer one mode of transportation to the detriment of others. And the fact that a majority of people prefer to drive is made even less meaningful when you consider that many of them would take up walking if provided the appropriate environment and infrastructure.

[BoulderSooner]

There's nothing special about majority or minority. Heck, our government system is even designed to protect the interests of minorities in the face of oppression by majorities (this is why we have a Republican Democracy). The fact that a majority of people currently prefer to drive does not mean we should continue to mindlessly perpetuate and prefer one mode of transportation to the detriment of others. And the fact that a majority of people prefer to drive is made even less meaningful when you consider that many of them would take up walking if provided the appropriate environment and infrastructure.

show me where to build a 16 field soccer complex that has games all day long where 0 people would have to drive to the games???

[Just the facts]

show me where to build a 16 field soccer complex that has games all day long where 0 people would have to drive to the games???

I guess step 1 would be to not build 16 soccer fields in one location. I did a quick search around the world and I can't find any place outside the US that have more than 4 soccer fields in one place.

[ethansisson]

show me where to build a 16 field soccer complex that has games all day long where 0 people would have to drive to the games???

So now you've gone from a majority of people driving to zero people driving? It's helpful to not only think in black-and-white. Like Sid said, the vast majority of our city is dedicated to driving as the only practical transportation, however there are many people here who recognize and desire the many benefits to a lifestyle that involves their feet as their primary mode of transportation. If we refuse to enable different lifestyles in Oklahoma City, everyone will miss out on the advantages and benefits that diversity brings. We need to be a city that attracts urban dwellers or we will fall back into obscurity for rejecting the lifestyle of the majority of the population of the western world.

I know your point was to say that 16 contiguous soccer fields cannot be built downtown – that's true and I don't think anyone actually wants that – but we can strive for diverse, high-density amenities that include public spaces, large parks, restaurants, residences, and workplaces, all supported by streets and public transportation that encourage walking, whether it be to a destination near or far.

[Pete]

Just posted on Urban Neighbors FB page:

Conceptual drawings of the MAPS 3 downtown park will be revealed and discussed during a community input meeting at 6 p.m. on October 25. The meeting will be held in the fourth floor auditorium of the Downtown Library, 300 Park Avenue.