Video Games

[Achilleslastand]

Yeah, do you really think that will happen though? I mean, people are already getting mad about having to pay for mutliplayer on used EA games as it is. Completely doing away with used games?????? I wonder what will happen to GameStop who is already having trouble as it is.

Never say never............
They did the same thing to the used pc game market back around 2005-06.
Gamestop used to have hundreds of used pc titles now your lucky if they have 20 or so new titles.

[Matt]

PS4 already wow!......Keeping up with the consoles is almost as expensive as keeping the hardware upgrades up to date for the pc.

"Already?" Uhh. . . the PS3 will be seven-years-old by the time the PS4 comes out. That's super-old for a console. The 360 will be eight this fall. That's even older than seven.

[Achilleslastand]

So your telling me eight is older then seven?
Brilliant!

[Plutonic Panda]

I agree we are becoming overdue for new consoles. I just hope they really do a good job and not half ass them and overcharge us.

[Plutonic Panda]

Never say never............
They did the same thing to the used pc game market back around 2005-06.
Gamestop used to have hundreds of used pc titles now your lucky if they have 20 or so new titles.

Yeah, but I've used the same code on 05-08 games many many times. I don't it will work with newer games though. I haven't tried.

[Achilleslastand]

I agree we are becoming overdue for new consoles. I just hope they really do a good job and not half ass them and overcharge us.

My problem is a lot of the current titles are 60 bucks with gameplay that can be completed in under 10-15 hours. Or the current trend of Call of Duty,MOH and Battlefield.
Belch....

[Plutonic Panda]

My problem is a lot of the current titles are 60 bucks with gameplay that can be completed in under 10-15 hours. Or the current trend of Call of Duty,MOH and Battlefield.
Belch....

That's one thing that really gets me. I completed MW3 in 6 hours. I am a campaign guy though. I just hate the way these games are today. It seems they aren't trying and just trying to throw them out as quick as possible. Also, I wonder if the price of new games will be raised at all with next gen.

[Achilleslastand]

That's one thing that really gets me. I completed MW3 in 6 hours. I am a campaign guy though. I just hate the way these games are today. It seems they aren't trying and just trying to throw them out as quick as possible. Also, I wonder if the price of new games will be raised at all with next gen.

Its a cash grab plain and simple....
The first couple COD and MOH titles had excellent campaigns and you got tremendous bang for your buck.
Are you a pc gamer as well?
If so you might try the ARMA series for excellent realistic gameplay with campaigns that are at times unforgiving.

[Plutonic Panda]

Yeah. I've played ARMA 2 and I have a Nvidia Gt580 and I still can't even run ultra graphics settings. I haven't played it much, but from what I have, it is badass. I am switching over to PC gaming though. I still play MW2 a lot. lol.... I've never been much into MOH. I prefer SOCOM which has fallen off quite a bit. I'll had more fun with SOCOM 3 then I did MOH Warfighter. Haven't played SOCOM 4 though.

[Achilleslastand]

Yeah. I've played ARMA 2 and I have a Nvidia Gt580 and I still can't even run ultra graphics settings. I haven't played it much, but from what I have, it is badass. I am switching over to PC gaming though. I still play MW2 a lot. lol.... I've never been much into MOH. I prefer SOCOM which has fallen off quite a bit. I'll had more fun with SOCOM 3 then I did MOH Warfighter. Haven't played SOCOM 4 though.

The first 2 Socoms were classic.....but sadly after that at least in my book they went downhill.
Are you familiar with GOG?
They sell PC games both old and new without DRM and its where ive picked up alot of my titles including Operation Flashpoint{aka Arma Cold War Crisis} and Arma Gold {aka Arma 1}. I paid 15 bucks for the both of them and being as they are older titles they arent as demanding as far as pc specs.
ArmA Gold Edition for download $9.99 - GOG.com

[Plutonic Panda]

The first 2 Socoms were classic.....but sadly after that at least in my book they went downhill.
Are you familiar with GOG?
They sell PC games both old and new without DRM and its where ive picked up alot of my titles including Operation Flashpoint{aka Arma Cold War Crisis} and Arma Gold {aka Arma 1}. I paid 15 bucks for the both of them and being as they are older titles they arent as demanding as far as pc specs.
ArmA Gold Edition for download $9.99 - GOG.com

I've never heard of GOG. I'll check it out when I get home. I'm at school now, but it seems cool. $10 for ARMA Gold seems really good. BTW How is Operation FP.. I have yet to play it.

[Hawk405359]

Never say never............
They did the same thing to the used pc game market back around 2005-06.
Gamestop used to have hundreds of used pc titles now your lucky if they have 20 or so new titles.

The better way to really do away with used games is to go all digital, which is the trend now. Trying to restrict used games in any other way would be corporate suicide given the prevalence of it in the market and how big the market is.

[Achilleslastand]

I've never heard of GOG. I'll check it out when I get home. I'm at school now, but it seems cool. $10 for ARMA Gold seems really good. BTW How is Operation FP.. I have yet to play it.

Its excellent but being that its over 10 yrs old dont expect top notch graphics. The gameplay as i mentioned earlier is at times very very difficult and i can understand how it got high ratings.

[Plutonic Panda]

I'm slowly switching to digital, but I'm not the biggest fan of "the cloud". Which is a rumor that the majority of games are going to. I haven't kept up with the PS4 news conference. If anyone has, is there anything really cool. I'm an Xbox guy, but I have a PS3(I don't play it much though).

[Plutonic Panda]

Its excellent but being that its over 10 yrs old dont expect top notch graphics. The gameplay as i mentioned earlier is at times very very difficult and i can understand how it got high ratings.

Have you played the new one? I think it is called Red River.

[Achilleslastand]

Have you played the new one? I think it is called Red River.

Actually i tried the demo on steam and wasnt very impressed.
Keep in mind that that new Operation flashpoint titles are not made by the same guys that made Operation FP 1 or any of the Arma titles.

[Achilleslastand]

The better way to really do away with used games is to go all digital, which is the trend now. Trying to restrict used games in any other way would be corporate suicide given the prevalence of it in the market and how big the market is.

Here is my problem with steam/digital......
When you buy a copy at a physical retailer there are costs that go into the for example 50 price. You have the costs of producing the disks, boxes, manuals as well as shipping them from point A to point B{retailer}.
For the same title on Steam you pay the same price with none of the costs involved above but you do get only a CD key.

[Plutonic Panda]

Actually i tried the demo on steam and wasnt very impressed.
Keep in mind that that new Operation flashpoint titles are not made by the same guys that made Operation FP 1 or any of the Arma titles.

Oh, I didn't know they weren't made by the same people.

Here is my problem with steam/digital......
When you buy a copy at a physical retailer there are costs that go into the for example 50 price. You have the costs of producing the disks, boxes, manuals as well as shipping them from point A to point B{retailer}.
For the same title on Steam you pay the same price with none of the costs involved above but you do get only a CD key.

THIS!!!!!

[Achilleslastand]

Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising and Red River were developed by Codemasters and Operation Flashpoint{Cold war crisis} as well as Arma 1 and 2 were devloped by Bohemia Interactive.
And yes i hate steam lol.

[Plutonic Panda]

Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising and Red River were developed by Codemasters and Operation Flashpoint{Cold war crisis} as well as Arma 1 and 2 were devloped by Bohemia Interactive.
And yes i hate steam lol.

Yeah, I hated steam after the first 30 mins of using it lol..

[Achilleslastand]

More and more titles coming out use Steam as a DRM or as i like to call it since the game is not actually yours a very expensive rental.

[Mississippi Blues]

All the games that were shown off were impressive and I plan to keep an eye on, but Down Deep like seriously caught my eye. It seems like a Skyrim with waaaaaayyyyyyy better graphics -- obviously since it'll be on PS4.

[Dustin]

Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising and Red River were developed by Codemasters and Operation Flashpoint{Cold war crisis} as well as Arma 1 and 2 were devloped by Bohemia Interactive.
And yes i hate steam lol.

Even though your avatar isn't Morgan Freeman, I can't help but read your posts in his voice. It's very weird.

[Achilleslastand]

Even though your avatar isn't Morgan Freeman, I can't help but read your posts in his voice. It's very weird.

If i remembered any of his lines from shawshank redemption id post em hehe.

[Plutonic Panda]

All the games that were shown off were impressive and I plan to keep an eye on, but Down Deep like seriously caught my eye. It seems like a Skyrim with waaaaaayyyyyyy better graphics -- obviously since it'll be on PS4.

I was upset with Final Fantasy 15 >_< ... But yes, I think Sony did good on this.