I240 Revitalization Efforts

[Architect2010]

Does anyone know what is being built on the northside of 240, between Walker and Santa Fe? Probably another car dealership...

[Dubya61]

Does anyone know what is being built on the northside of 240, between Walker and Santa Fe? Probably another car dealership...

IIRC: David Stanley Kia

[catch22]

Correct ^ (not sure on who, but it is a dealership)

[MWCGuy]

It will be a David Stanley Dealership for sure the Kia brand name is the only thing that is in the rumor mill at the moment. The county assessor lists the property owner as David Stanley Imports.

[bombermwc]

It's got the David Stanley Kia sign out front...or at least it used to.

[JesStang]

Anyone know what they're building on 240 and Penn (northeast corner)? It's the building next to Schlotzsky's and Denneys that has been a hundred different things but was finally torn down. They're moving dirt around but I haven't seen a sign for anything.

[Spartan]

Wow I-240 really is seeing revitalization!

[Tavia]

Cane's Chicken

[Spartan]

Now that's a boom

[Plutonic Panda]

Now that's a boom

Maybe so because this will be the biggest Canes Chicken I've seen anywhere, unless 70% of the lot will be parking.

[Spartan]

Maybe so because this will be the biggest Canes Chicken I've seen anywhere, unless 70% of the lot will be parking.

Would that surprise you?

[bombermwc]

I wish they would get back on repaving the frontage road. They did the west end (that didn't really need it...and I don't think they striped it yet).

[Plutonic Panda]

Envision 240 kicks off petition drive for BID | The Journal Record

[SouthSide]

With a BID the property owners have to agree, right? I will be surprised if that happens with all the apartments.

[Geographer]

State statutes requires that petition support from ownership be greater than 50% of the area liable to be assessed. If there are 100 acres of land eligible to be assessed, then the process requires petitions with a “yes” from owners who collectively own greater than 50 acres. Although the City may technically approve a BID with barely over 50% support, a higher percentage of support will set a stronger foundation with less resistance.

[SouthSide]

Thanks for the clarification. The Envision 240 study was undertaken in 2012. I wonder why it has taken so long to move to the next step.

[Spartan]

Envision 240 kicks off petition drive for BID | The Journal Record

What the hell are they going to use a BID for? This is putting the cart way before the horse. They don't have a district, and that's not to say they shouldn't embark on some BI, but for a BID you need a District.. just having a geography selected doesn't give you a district.

This is typical laughable city planning on the part of OKC. This is becoming systemically helpless.

[SouthSide]

What the hell are they going to use a BID for? This is putting the cart way before the horse. They don't have a district, and that's not to say they shouldn't embark on some BI, but for a BID you need a District.. just having a geography selected doesn't give you a district.

This is typical laughable city planning on the part of OKC. This is becoming systemically helpless.

In your opinion, what makes a district having excluded geography? What districts if any do you see in the south OKC besides Capitol Hill?

[boitoirich]

Other than Capitol Hill, there are none. It will take time for the Wheeler District and Core 2 Shore to come together, the Farmer's Market has a shot (the OKC Freeway Boulevard certainly doesn't help), and Hubcap Alley is still premature. Those are the only places any concerted public effort begin to make since on the south side. I240 is what it is. But it ain't a district.

[Just the facts]

Whatever they call it or how they fund it, if they repeat the same design mistake of targeting I-240 as if it was Main St they are going to end up with the exact same result. OKC needs to get away from frontage road retail - and fast. We need Place Making, not Drive-by Place Making.

[SouthSide]

So an area is only a district when it is referred to by a place name ? I don't see why an identity or brand can't be created for this area just like Core to Shore or Wheeler. With Crossroads in its current state, it is the main shopping area for southwest okc.

[ljbab728]

Other than Capitol Hill, there are none.

Stockyards?

[Just the facts]

I-240 is a sea of sprawl catering to the automobile. Applying new urbanism terms to sprawl doesn't solve the problem, solving the problem solves the problem. My question is, do they really even know what the primary problem is? If all they want to do is rebuild what already decayed then expect to keep rebuilding it every 20 to 30 years. Just make sure they collect enough taxes to pay for it.

[baralheia]

For those of us (like me) who are unfamiliar with how New Urbanism would apply to neighborhoods outside of the downtown core, could you give a brief description of how the problems with the I-240 corridor could be solved? Thanks!

[Urbanized]

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Here is an excellent resource to help answer this question (5-10 minute read): Sprawl Repair: From Sprawl to Complete Communities, by Galina Tachieva : Articles : Terrain.org