Cannabis

[bchris02]

I think it alludes to more that if all someone is gonna do is piss and moan on a message board they are free to leave. If they work to make it better by all means stay.

Most people here just whine and moan.

Well I can see both sides of this. It's steep uphill battle for anyone who wants progressive change in Oklahoma. This state is the reddest of the red states and is one of the most authoritarian in the country. Big money interests and churches run things here and they have the final say on everything and cannot be opposed. Oklahoma politicians like to say "small government" but what they really mean is cutting services that mostly benefit the poor and middle class. Government here cannot be too big when it comes to controlling everyone's private lives and what they do with their bodies and trying to keep everyone on "God's path." In reality, the people aren't as hard right as the state government is (at least here in OKC), but enough of them are or are single issue voters, usually because of abortion, gay rights, or guns, that these people keep getting elected. Until this state has a change in leadership, nothing is going to change. There comes a point where you have to ask the question do you stay and fight, tolerate the status quo which seems hopeless to change, or just pack up and leave? And realistically, packing up and leaving isn't an option for many people who would like to in theory.

I want to add that at least Oklahoma voted in favor of medical marijuana even if the state government, as expected, has overridden the will of the people. This is only the second state in the Bible Belt to do so, which is noteworthy.

[OKCRT]

Sign the petition to get it on the ballot and VOTE for recreational. That is really the only option at this point IMO.

[Laramie]

Sign the petition to get it on the ballot and VOTE for recreational. That is really the only option at this point IMO.

Felt this was too good to be true. Don't smoke period & have no use for medical marijuana; however there are those who will benefit from it, now they have made if difficult for those who need it to obtain it. How many of us can grow a so called controlled dangerous substance?

I'm signing the recreational marijuana petition so we can put this thing to rest once & for all while our governor drags her feet and protects the Oklahoma Republican legislature by turning this over to the state health department that has a deep storied history of fumbling the ball on legislation.

[dcsooner]

Felt this was too good to be true. Don't smoke period & have no use for medical marijuana; however there are those who will benefit from it, now they have made if difficult for those who need it to obtain it. How many of us can grow a so called controlled dangerous substance?

I'm signing the recreational marijuana petition so we can put this thing to rest once & for all while our governor drags her feet and protects the Oklahoma Republican legislature by turning this over to the state health department that has a deep storied history of fumbling the ball on legislation.

+1

[Laramie]

Oklahoma Legislature continue to play 'Mother Hen' with its voters. Time to take action...

City area Recreational Marijuana Petition places to sign in the core:

Emerald Elite CBD
4623 E 29th ST, Del City, OK 73115 (405) 673-7585

Herbalife
4745 Tempo Dr., Del City, OK 73115 (405) 788-7692

A&M Vape Shop OKC 2900 NW 23rd St., Oklahoma City, OK 73107 (405) 601-8610

Buddy's CBD Wellness 1925 NW 39th St. OKC, OK 73118 (405) 371-9561

Chad Moody Attorney
200 S. Harvey Ave., Ste. 110, Oklahoma City, OK 73109
(405) 231-4343

Herban Mother
607 NW 28th St., suite a, Oklahoma City, OK 73103
405-509-3183

Her Mane Addiction
1618 NW 23rd St, Suite A, Oklahoma City, OK 73106
405-999-0759

Hybrid Cures
1230 NE 23rd St suite c, Oklahoma City, OK 73111
(405) 600-9734

Prodigy Vapor
710 N Broadway Ave, Oklahoma City, Ok 73102
405-225-1182

Deadline: August 7, 2018 last day to sign petition

Check out Green the Vote for a list of places to sign in your area (see list of locations) if you're registered to vote Oklahoma: https://gtvok.com/locations

[Thomas Vu]

i think it alludes to more that if all someone is gonna do is piss and moan on a message board they are free to leave. If they work to make it better by all means stay.

Most people in general just whine and moan.

ftfy

[OKCRT]

Felt this was too good to be true. Don't smoke period & have no use for medical marijuana; however there are those who will benefit from it, now they have made if difficult for those who need it to obtain it. How many of us can grow a so called controlled dangerous substance?

I'm signing the recreational marijuana petition so we can put this thing to rest once & for all while our governor drags her feet and protects the Oklahoma Republican legislature by turning this over to the state health department that has a deep storied history of fumbling the ball on legislation.

I'm in the same mind frame as you. I don't use it either but I do want people to have it if they feel they need it. Or maybe one day I might need it and would like it to be readily available if that time comes.

[bchris02]

This is beyond angering. I wonder if this state will ever get past it's "Footloose" mentality. Every time it seems like there might be a little bit of hope, it's quickly smacked down.

I'm in the same mind frame as you. I don't use it either but I do want people to have it if they feel they need it. Or maybe one day I might need it and would like it to be readily available if that time comes.

My guess is one of the following states (Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, or Kansas) will have legal weed within the next decade and it's likely to be decriminalized federally under the next Democratic administration. Oklahomans probably won't have to wait for it to be legalized here to be able to get it legal close to home, assuming 797 either doesn't pass in 2020 or the state neuters it as well.

[Bunty]

Oklahoma Legislature continue to play 'Mother Hen' with its voters. Time to take action...

City area Recreational Marijuana Petition places to sign in the core:

Emerald Elite CBD
4623 E 29th ST, Del City, OK 73115 (405) 673-7585

Herbalife
4745 Tempo Dr., Del City, OK 73115 (405) 788-7692

A&M Vape Shop OKC 2900 NW 23rd St., Oklahoma City, OK 73107 (405) 601-8610

Buddy's CBD Wellness 1925 NW 39th St. OKC, OK 73118 (405) 371-9561

Chad Moody Attorney
200 S. Harvey Ave., Ste. 110, Oklahoma City, OK 73109
(405) 231-4343

Herban Mother
607 NW 28th St., suite a, Oklahoma City, OK 73103
405-509-3183

Her Mane Addiction
1618 NW 23rd St, Suite A, Oklahoma City, OK 73106
405-999-0759

Hybrid Cures
1230 NE 23rd St suite c, Oklahoma City, OK 73111
(405) 600-9734

Prodigy Vapor
710 N Broadway Ave, Oklahoma City, Ok 73102
405-225-1182

Deadline: August 7, 2018 last day to sign petition

Check out Green the Vote for a list of places to sign in your area (see list of locations) if you're registered to vote Oklahoma: https://gtvok.com/locations

Organics at 2800 N. Penn has petitions to give out if you want to be a signature taker. A lot of people are pissed off after what the health dept. did and want to sign. The more signatures gathered, the more pissed off opponents of SQ788 and the health dept. will be.

[BridgeBurner]

I would encourage all of you to contact your representatives asking them to respect the spirit and intent of SQ788.
I just emailed mine and House Floor Leader Jon Echols, use http://www.oklegislature.gov/FindMyL....aspx?State=OK to find out who represents you, it gives you a direct link to their phone and email.

[David]

I was previously not going to bother, but these latest events have me making plans to go sign both current initiative petitions. I already would have done so yesterday, but when I went by Buddy's CBD Wellness to sign yesterday there was a sign on the door saying they were out and I didn't remember the other options.

[ditm4567]

I think it alludes to more that if all someone is gonna do is piss and moan on a message board they are free to leave. If they work to make it better by all means stay.

Most people here just whine and moan.

Thank you gopokes88. This is exactly what I was alluding to. The amount of time people on this message board just hide behind their screen and whine about what is wrong with this state, yet do not offer any sort of a solution to the said problem is remarkable. No state is perfect, and if there was one there would be an influx of citizens to this state. Yet, we do not see that. Yes, while there are things that are wrong with this state and its leaders, we will be seeing some sort of change come November. But if you can't wait for that and just want to sit back and b*tch and moan without doing anything of importance to fix it, then by all means, leave. The pessimism that lives on these message boards make them almost unbearable to read. Take a step back and look around you for a minute. Be thankful that you live in a place that allows for you to even speak your mind in regard to the political decisions that are being made, and that you do not feel threatened to do so. With that being said, instead of just complaining about the issue, get out there and do something about it, because that is your constitutional right in this country.

[Ross MacLochness]

^^how do you know most people who whine are not also doing something to try and change the situation outside of the board? Perhaps even whining does something by showing solidarity and giving a morsel of validity to an opinion. All you guys are doing is whining about the whiners... Besides, most of the posts on this thread give valuable info or urge folks to sign a petition, vote etc.

[ditm4567]

^^how do you know most people who whine are not also doing something to try and change the situation outside of the board? Perhaps even whining does something by showing solidarity and giving a morsel of validity to an opinion. All you guys are doing is whining about the whiners... Besides, most of the posts on this thread give valuable info or urge folks to sign a petition, vote etc.

I understand what you're saying in regard to "signing a petitions, vote, etc", and respect that. I was not referring to that because many people on THIS thread do offer valuable, and practical, information and solutions. But at the same time many people on this thread also just whine. How am I, or anyone for that matter, supposed to know that these "whiners" are doing anything outside of this message board to find a solution to their complaints when they are not mentioning it. I once had a professor say, "once there has been recognition of a real issue, keep your opinions and complaints to yourself and significant other, unless they end with some sort of a possible solution to the issue. While its harder to find a solution to a problem than it is to sit around and complain, the problem solvers are the ones that get remembered." Many people on this thread do offer great solutions, its just hard sometimes to focus on those when people are throwing in pointless complaints.

[CloudDeckMedia]

The opposition to medical marijuana SQ788 was not very vigorous - many supported medicinal marijuana but not the language of the proposal. I suspect that any recreational marijuana initiative will result in widespread and passionate opposition.

That would delay patients from receiving the benefits of medical marijuana, which was the original goal, correct?

[bchris02]

It's hard to not be pessimistic when 57% of the state can vote for something but because some far-right religious organizations and wealthy oligarchs don't like it, the will of the people can be tossed out in a snap. I know no state is perfect, but the resistance to social progress of any kind in Oklahoma and the level of right-wing religious authoritarianism in the government here is mind-numbing. This state has always been that way. It's why it was one of the last states to repeal prohibition, get liquor by the drink, legalize tattoos, the lottery, casino, full-strength beer in supermarkets, etc. After SQ788 passed it was exciting to think that maybe this pattern might not apply to cannabis but after what the state pulled and the fact that passing rec is such a long shot, there's little reason to think that it won't.

And people are focused on the ban on smokeable product which is bad enough, but the real killer is the requirement for it to be distributed by a licensed pharmacist. Licensed pharmacists cannot distribute a Schedule 1 drug or they lose their license. If they lose their license, they are no longer a licensed pharmacist and cannot sell. See what they did?

[HangryHippo]

Thank you gopokes88. This is exactly what I was alluding to. The amount of time people on this message board just hide behind their screen and whine about what is wrong with this state, yet do not offer any sort of a solution to the said problem is remarkable. No state is perfect, and if there was one there would be an influx of citizens to this state. Yet, we do not see that. Yes, while there are things that are wrong with this state and its leaders, we will be seeing some sort of change come November. But if you can't wait for that and just want to sit back and b*tch and moan without doing anything of importance to fix it, then by all means, leave. The pessimism that lives on these message boards make them almost unbearable to read. Take a step back and look around you for a minute. Be thankful that you live in a place that allows for you to even speak your mind in regard to the political decisions that are being made, and that you do not feel threatened to do so. With that being said, instead of just complaining about the issue, get out there and do something about it, because that is your constitutional right in this country.

You know, posts like these are obnoxious as hell. It's a message board. For discussion/whining/commenting/whatever. It's the same message board where we've offered solutions time and again and tried to build an informed community of people interested in OKC. What the hell else are we supposed to do for you so your message board experience isn't so painful? You want a post from everyone every time they offer solutions but don't post about it on OKCTalk? I guess posters should say grace for our ability say what we want, in spite of it pissing you off because it's not sunshine pumping.

[Bunty]

The opposition to medical marijuana SQ788 was not very vigorous - many supported medicinal marijuana but not the language of the proposal. I suspect that any recreational marijuana initiative will result in widespread and passionate opposition.

That would delay patients from receiving the benefits of medical marijuana, which was the original goal, correct?

In order to lessen opposition, SQ797 does not offer home grow and cities can ban marijuana dispensaries.

[Bunty]

The opposition to medical marijuana SQ788 was not very vigorous - many supported medicinal marijuana but not the language of the proposal. I suspect that any recreational marijuana initiative will result in widespread and passionate opposition.

That would delay patients from receiving the benefits of medical marijuana, which was the original goal, correct?

In order to lessen opposition, SQ797 does not offer home grow and cities can ban marijuana dispensaries. Sorry about duplicate.

[HangryHippo]

I understand what you're saying in regard to "signing a petitions, vote, etc", and respect that. I was not referring to that because many people on THIS thread do offer valuable, and practical, information and solutions. But at the same time many people on this thread also just whine. How am I, or anyone for that matter, supposed to know that these "whiners" are doing anything outside of this message board to find a solution to their complaints when they are not mentioning it. I once had a professor say, "once there has been recognition of a real issue, keep your opinions and complaints to yourself and significant other, unless they end with some sort of a possible solution to the issue. While its harder to find a solution to a problem than it is to sit around and complain, the problem solvers are the ones that get remembered." Many people on this thread do offer great solutions, its just hard sometimes to focus on those when people are throwing in pointless complaints.

Why do you feel you're supposed to know that these "whiners" are doing things outside of this message board? Many of us work diligently away from OKCTalk to find solutions to identified problems. No one has to let you know about it so that you're aware that it's not just message board whining.

[gopokes88]

It's hard to not be pessimistic when 57% of the state can vote for something but because some far-right religious organizations and wealthy oligarchs don't like it, the will of the people can be tossed out in a snap. I know no state is perfect, but the resistance to social progress of any kind in Oklahoma and the level of right-wing religious authoritarianism in the government here is mind-numbing. This state has always been that way. It's why it was one of the last states to repeal prohibition, get liquor by the drink, legalize tattoos, the lottery, casino, full-strength beer in supermarkets, etc. After SQ788 passed it was exciting to think that maybe this pattern might not apply to cannabis but after what the state pulled and the fact that passing rec is such a long shot, there's little reason to think that it won't.

And people are focused on the ban on smokeable product which is bad enough, but the real killer is the requirement for it to be distributed by a licensed pharmacist. Licensed pharmacists cannot distribute a Schedule 1 drug or they lose their license. If they lose their license, they are no longer a licensed pharmacist and cannot sell. See what they did?

Temporarily* Don't forget that, this is going to get thrown out in court. It sucks, but it's part of the game and Oklahoma is far from the only state that plays these games. Florida did the exact same thing.

It will be a slam dunk in court though, especially when the Oklahoma Medical Board director publicly said we don't think people knew what they were voting on. Won't be hard to build a case they did it to stifle the law and has nothing to do with medical.

[PhiAlpha]

It's hard to not be pessimistic when 57% of the state can vote for something but because some far-right religious organizations and wealthy oligarchs don't like it, the will of the people can be tossed out in a snap. I know no state is perfect, but the resistance to social progress of any kind in Oklahoma and the level of right-wing religious authoritarianism in the government here is mind-numbing. This state has always been that way. It's why it was one of the last states to repeal prohibition, get liquor by the drink, legalize tattoos, the lottery, casino, full-strength beer in supermarkets, etc. After SQ788 passed it was exciting to think that maybe this pattern might not apply to cannabis but after what the state pulled and the fact that passing rec is such a long shot, there's little reason to think that it won't.

And people are focused on the ban on smokeable product which is bad enough, but the real killer is the requirement for it to be distributed by a licensed pharmacist. Licensed pharmacists cannot distribute a Schedule 1 drug or they lose their license. If they lose their license, they are no longer a licensed pharmacist and cannot sell. See what they did?

You are one of the biggest of the whiners on this board and probably one of the posters everyone is referring to. Go sign the petition and quit moaning about the same things over and over again, or find a way to go somewhere else like you’ve been threatening to do for the last 7 years. You’ve literally posted different versions of the same rant multiple times in this thread and others. The legislature as a whole didn’t even have anything to do with this and supported it being implemented as it was. The religious issues you continually bring up have been all but absent from anything that’s been passed here over the last 4 years or so. The board of healths decision had nothing to do with religion or any of the other issues you mention...they didn’t feel they could pass off something that involved smoking as medical which as stupid as it seems like that is, doesn’t have anything to do with all the social issues you blabber on and on about.

[Jersey Boss]

Your insults of 2 or 3 posters on this board are not fresh and are rather tiring.

[pw405]

Pessism is EXACTLY what the evangelical OK overlords WANT! F**K EM!! Get energized, get involved and get the word out. I was VERY encouraged yesterday at something kinna small. I blasted a message about 50x on posts where people were upset about the health department ruling. I posted on comments from politicians, from the activist groups, and individuals. The next day I saw somebody else had copy pasta'd my comment and was doing the same thing! My message (that included the 797 petition locations) was circulated 100's of times, reaching 1,000's of views. I saw it on two different live streams. We only have power collectively, and there is already plenty of pessism online. Inspiring people to take action is the only way we'll change.

[PhiAlpha]

Pessism is EXACTLY what the evangelical OK overlords WANT! F**K EM!! Get energized, get involved and get the word out. I was VERY encouraged yesterday at something kinna small. I blasted a message about 50x on posts where people were upset about the health department ruling. I posted on comments from politicians, from the activist groups, and individuals. The next day I saw somebody else had copy pasta'd my comment and was doing the same thing! My message (that included the 797 petition locations) was circulated 100's of times, reaching 1,000's of views. I saw it on two different live streams. We only have power collectively, and there is already plenty of pessism online. Inspiring people to take action is the only way we'll change.

Exactly this