Coffee Slingers

[fourthworldtraffic]

No, you've learned alot about the people who are on computers all the time, bad mouthing each other..I have been reading this and am also very struck by the ugliness of tone and the gossipy disparaging nonsense...Maybe too much unsupervised office time or retirement thumbwiddling perhaps judging from the posting times and frequency.I found nothing complained about here to be accurate regarding Coffee Slingers. YES I agree with the administrator's allusion and I'll take it a step further:let's start a message board with real names and watch the strong opinions falter and fade.

[Generals64]

O.K., what happened?....Coffee Slingers was lambasted for a couple of weeks and everyone was told they were going out of business...Did they re-open? or are they just like any other business.....Working their tails off to survive and a few just don't get their ways and they try to ruin someone.....Today, they were still opened....what happened?

[MadMonk]

Yeah, people stating their unvarnished opinions is such a horrible, horrible thing.

[Generals64]

Yeah, people stating their unvarnished opinions is such a horrible, horrible thing.

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Unvarnished opinions is considered "Freedom of Speech". In this great land we live in we have the ability to do that. However, if you read the posts throughout this board there is every type of statement made. I'm relatively new at this so I read and think (probably too much) but, in today's economic conditions we as Oklahomans need to support the businesses that we have in this Great State. Or leave them alone. I have seen businesses come and go and some because of one or two mad employees. Or, maybe someone just had a bad day. We can voice opinions but we can also step back and just not go there anymore. I checked a few minutes ago and found out that there is more than one coffee shop in the Downtown OKC area.....Some are making it, some are not...just don't patronize those you don't like but don't run the others business into obscurity. We need the tax base and the people that do own or work there need a job ..... enjoy the rest of today. If you want to bad mouth someone because you've had a bad experience, use me.....that's o.k.....but don't hurt someone's business in the open like this forum gives you or anyone else the opportunity.....No fancy quotes...just a real fact.......Have a happy holiday my friend.

[mecarr]

I don't think anyone here is wishing that Coffee Slingers goes under. However, many of us have argued that there are many things they do that will make them more lilkely to go under. I don't think it's harmful to give constructive criticism.

[BailJumper]

I was in the other day and was told their turnover is starting to rival that of Java Dave's.

[Steve]

What do you mean by "turnover"?

[jbrown84]

I drove by in the evening once in the last couple weeks and there seemed to be a healthy crowd there.

[OKCTalker]

we as Oklahomans need to support the businesses that we have in this Great State. Or leave them alone.

You sound like someone working for a chamber of commerce where everything is all peachy keen or not mentioned at all. One of the things I find most valuable about message boards is that I'll read first-hand opinions by people with experiences, and taking everything into consideration, I'll make my decision. "Outing" a substandard business is to everyone's advantage except for the guy providing substandard service. What's wrong with that?

[MadMonk]

You sound like someone working for a chamber of commerce where everything is all peachy keen or not mentioned at all. One of the things I find most valuable about message boards is that I'll read first-hand opinions by people with experiences, and taking everything into consideration, I'll make my decision. "Outing" a substandard business is to everyone's advantage except for the guy providing substandard service. What's wrong with that?

Exactly. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinion about it if you've had bad service. If the business is smart about it, they would take such opinions to heart and look closer at why someone had that experience. I appreciate knowing other's experiences, both good and bad. I'm not too concerned about someone trying to run down a business due to a grudge. You can easily spot those types along with the cheerleaders who work there or own the business.

[Spartan]

...coffee slingers is not a democracy, it is a craft and quality driven business....rumours are driven by dinosaur chauffeurs with the obstinate intransigence of thumbscrewed habit enamoured of their employers until the bitter end...

Even though I understood about 10% of what you say, I say Touche'!

[BailJumper]

What do you mean by "turnover"?

Not the freshly baked apple or cherry kind! I saw a new face and commented. Was told several people left due to "stress" from the owner. I didn't think they employed "several" people to begin with, but o'well.

I hope things are fine. I can't tell you how I am disappointed on a regular basis by Java Dave's (slow service, some unfriendly staff, always new staff, they serve fruit - like apples - with bare unwashed hands, often tables are dirty, and they are stingy with the heat after the morning rush).

[Generals64]

#1. I do know what it means to have employees "screw up" a perfectly good business and be the one that has to take the financial hit. Being bad mouthed by people until the business gone and those same people were the ones calling my home wanting to buy some of the things they could not get anywhere else.
I do agree on "Freedom of Speech". However, I don't believe in kicking someone when they are down in a public forum. If you had a bad experience did you tell the owner first? If you did and nothing was down about it they they deserve what they get....This is like an oxymoron as I try to take care of the experience these people had in my store but the person repeatedly bad-mouthed the business until it started stumbling and eventually fell. Go for it but, give the old "turn the other cheek" and see what happens.

[OKCTalker]

Braum's used to be (still is?) notorious for slow drive-through lines. Everybody complained about it and everyone accepted it. Did anyone personally call Drew Braum?

[metro]

Braum's used to be (still is?) notorious for slow drive-through lines. Everybody complained about it and everyone accepted it. Did anyone personally call Drew Braum?

Braum's seems to get worse IMO on their slow service. I've written and called them numerous times, none of them seem to care. I think Drew Braum is out of touch with reality from public statements and press releases I've read.

[BailJumper]

Wasn't their response to stop allowing patrons to buy groceries (milk, eggs, etc.) at the drive-thru? Which in my opinion was a terrible decision.

[metro]

Wasn't their response to stop allowing patrons to buy groceries (milk, eggs, etc.) at the drive-thru? Which in my opinion was a terrible decision.

Yeah, but now they make you wait as they pretty much cook your order after you order and aren't like McDonalds with food ready to go. Almost every time I go to Braums, I have to prepare myself to pay and then wait 15 minutes. Usually they immediately have me pull over and park and they bring my food out, even if I order a basic hamburger and fries.

[kevinpate]

It's more than being a cooked to order difference though.

I can't recall the last time I did not have a custom order quirk when I was at McD's, Carl's, Sonic, etc.. I do so to help assure as fresh a prep of my meal as I can influence. Even so, every burger place I frequent in the greater metro, even if busy, will still consistently be MUCH faster than a Braum's, even a non-busy Braum's.

I know it can't be true, but at times I'm almost ready to contemplate whether they inject a slo-mo juice into the staff.

I like Braum's food, I even prefer it when I'm in no hurry. But, ONLY when I have time that needs a good killing do I pull in.

[jbrown84]

Yeah, but now they make you wait as they pretty much cook your order after you order and aren't like McDonalds with food ready to go. Almost every time I go to Braums, I have to prepare myself to pay and then wait 15 minutes. Usually they immediately have me pull over and park and they bring my food out, even if I order a basic hamburger and fries.

Would you rather your food not be fresh? Braum's is nowhere near as busy as McDonald's.


@General: It seems you have not fully embraced new media. Blogs and message board are this generation's way of telling the owner what we think. We don't always have time to track down their number or email and send them a personal message. A good owner and or manager will take to heart any constructive criticism they see online.

[jbrown84]

Not the freshly baked apple or cherry kind! I saw a new face and commented. Was told several people left due to "stress" from the owner. I didn't think they employed "several" people to begin with, but o'well.

I hope things are fine. I can't tell you how I am disappointed on a regular basis by Java Dave's (slow service, some unfriendly staff, always new staff, they serve fruit - like apples - with bare unwashed hands, often tables are dirty, and they are stingy with the heat after the morning rush).

Not to mention their micro-managed parking lot with signs designating "5 minute parking", "30 minute parking", "1 hour parking", etc.

[metro]

Would you rather your food not be fresh? Braum's is nowhere near as busy as McDonald's.


@General: It seems you have not fully embraced new media. Blogs and message board are this generation's way of telling the owner what we think. We don't always have time to track down their number or email and send them a personal message. A good owner and or manager will take to heart any constructive criticism they see online.

No, I have embraced new media just fine, it's Braum's who hasn't embraced new media. I've griped about it online in blogs, this website and through personal contact aka snail mail and their 1800 number..

[jbrown84]

Wasn't talking to you.

See the "@General:"??

[Generals64]

you guys get after it....you let this thread (the one you used for some time) die and go back on the fifth page. Now, you're re-working the whole thing....I understand the free complaint system and I'm probably too old to understand all that the internet has to offer. But, I'm not too old to try and help a business in the OKC area stay alive.....you guys aren't etither...Remember what I saide, my skin's pretty thick and if you want to pick on me get after it.....But, try and work out the problems at Coffeslingers by going back and if it happens again blast them on this thread again and again...then let the management know to check the thread.....Thanks for being there....

[Generals64]

Today (ice and all) I'm going to go down to Coffee Slingers and I'll give an old man's opinion. May be worthless but, I'm going talk to you guys later.

[BailJumper]

I know I'm holding my breath.