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    Access oklahoma just Added 57 additional construction eprojects

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    Quote Originally Posted by TornadoKegan View Post
    Access oklahoma just Added 57 additional construction eprojects
    Can you share links or details? I explored the site and didn’t find 57 additional projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
    Can you share links or details? I explored the site and didn’t find 57 additional projects.
    (Crickets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
    Can you share links or details? I explored the site and didn’t find 57 additional projects.
    https://www.accessoklahoma.com/_file...99676eb7d7.pdf

    3rd paragraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by rte66man View Post
    Thanks!

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    The Kickapoo turnpike from I 40 to SE 149th street, is now in the active design phase

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    Quote Originally Posted by TornadoKegan View Post
    The Kickapoo turnpike from I 40 to SE 149th street, is now in the active design phase
    Good to hear - what is the timeline for starting construction?


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    It still seems like it would have worked better for the metro traffic balance to remain more north/south, and meet I-40 near where I-240 branches off from it. Thus relives traffic from I-35 from those on east side of Noman to downtown OKC. If built like this that adds like eight-nine more miles, so will continue to push people to take I-35 unless check map and see it is severely backed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    It still seems like it would have worked better for the metro traffic balance to remain more north/south, and meet I-40 near where I-240 branches off from it. Thus relives traffic from I-35 from those on east side of Noman to downtown OKC. If built like this that adds like eight-nine more miles, so will continue to push people to take I-35 unless check map and see it is severely backed up.
    the inner NE loop that was killed in the 90's would have done wonders for the development and property values of the NE side ..

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    I’ve said the same repeatedly, and to ODOT. We get this mess.

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    This should get a lot of thru truck traffic out away from 35 as I read somewhere that most trucks coming up I35 get on I44 and go NE through Tulsa and vice versa. Now it's not every truck no, but it's the majority apparently.

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    Was that the Sooner Rd route?

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    We don't need anymore turnpikes. Just make them regular highways. I refuse to pay anymore than I already do through taxes to drive on a road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnesa View Post
    We don't need anymore turnpikes. Just make them regular highways. I refuse to pay anymore than I already do through taxes to drive on a road.
    your taxes don't pay for any of the turnpikes .. that is the point .... your taxes would need to go up for them not to be turnpikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    your taxes don't pay for any of the turnpikes .. that is the point .... your taxes would need to go up for them not to be turnpikes
    Sounds like we just don't need to build them then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnesa View Post
    Sounds like we just don't need to build them then.
    If you don't like them don't drive on them. Simple as that. Won't get any of your money that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnesa View Post
    We don't need anymore turnpikes. Just make them regular highways. I refuse to pay anymore than I already do through taxes to drive on a road.
    And then in 15 years when you complain about Traffic on I-35. you can wonder why these were never built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedicurt View Post
    And then in 15 years when you complain about Traffic on I-35. you can wonder why these were never built.
    Not worried about traffic. I am concerned with the cost to drive on a road that I feel like we don’t need. I will sit in traffic to not pay to drive on a road. Been doing it for 40 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnesa View Post
    Not worried about traffic. I am concerned with the cost to drive on a road that I feel like we don’t need. I will sit in traffic to not pay to drive on a road. Been doing it for 40 years.
    Quit being obtuse. You pay for the road you drive on and will sit on, just through taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnesa View Post
    Not worried about traffic. I am concerned with the cost to drive on a road that I feel like we don’t need. I will sit in traffic to not pay to drive on a road. Been doing it for 40 years.
    you pay for both of them. one you pay for even if you don't drive on it. But cool. so you don't want them. but guess what. many of us do. So unless you want to provide good actual reasons as to why they shouldn't exist, then we already know your opinion. no reason to hear the same single line over and over again. we get it, you don't want them built.

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    Let's please have a rational and kind discussion.

    This is getting unnecessarily angry (not pointing the finger at any one person) and let's not go down that road. It's just turnpikes.

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    The State of Oklahoma has the authority to turn I-35 and I-40 into turnpikes. I wish they would, then there would be no quandary of whether its worth it to drive on a "free" or toll interstate road - you are paying to drive on an interstate road so you might as well drive the most direct and fastest route so out-of-state traffic can clear the OKC area as fast as possible and not be tempted to drive through the city to avoid a toll. If out-of-state traffic wants to avoid the toll, then they can avoid driving through the state altogether - thus relieving some of the traffic in the State. The State could lower the State excise gas tax a little to make the amount of State tax income break-even. Locals who don't drive interstates at all essentially get a tax cut and those who actually use the roads actually pay for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolChad View Post
    The State of Oklahoma has the authority to turn I-35 and I-40 into turnpikes. I wish they would, then there would be no quandary of whether its worth it to drive on a "free" or toll interstate road - you are paying to drive on an interstate road so you might as well drive the most direct and fastest route so out-of-state traffic can clear the OKC area as fast as possible and not be tempted to drive through the city to avoid a toll. If out-of-state traffic wants to avoid the toll, then they can avoid driving through the state altogether - thus relieving some of the traffic in the State. The State could lower the State excise gas tax a little to make the amount of State tax income break-even. Locals who don't drive interstates at all essentially get a tax cut and those who actually use the roads actually pay for them.
    While I don't like this idea, I will say there is a clear difference of traveling I-35 in Kansas along the Kansas Turnpike compared to the "free" I-35 in Oklahoma. I-35 is a major corridor from San Antonio all the way to Minneapolis for commerce and there isn't really another quality north/south route that would be a good use of time to save a few bucks, and I don't think a toll on either of these roads (I35 and I40) would divert much cross country traffic as I-70 and I-20 are quite far away from I40.

    Do I sigh paying $5.00 one way every time I go to Tulsa on the Turner Turnpike, sure? But I'll pay that $5 for convenience over taking the two-lane 55mph twisty road of Route 66 the entire length from Edmond to Sapulpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolChad View Post
    The State of Oklahoma has the authority to turn I-35 and I-40 into turnpikes.
    I don't believe that this is accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    I don't believe that this is accurate
    While partially correct, that statement gives you a false impression. ODOT could ADD toll lanes to existing roads just as what's been done in the DFW area. They can't just slap toll gates on existing lanes.

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