January '10 Weather Discussion

[venture]

Meanwhile, as excitement over the prospect for a lot of frozen precipt. builds, has anyone heard that the NWS has raised the criteria on size of hail to define a severe thunderstorm? It's now at 1" raised from 3/4 in. Story at: National Weather Service - Warning Decision Training Branch

Yup...good change in my opinion.

Side note. Updated http://www.anvilcrawlers.com/ ... It now has the chat on the main page, with radar and the NWS Norman page. The chat is tied in to twitter feeds from the NWS and area emergency managers.

[sacolton]

I guess we can expect massive power outages then.

[adaniel]

Tulsa weather service is going with much more ice.

DSP ICE Hazard

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/rtima...rmIceAccum.png

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/rtima...adIce24hr2.png

Wow that is not good at all. An inch of ice right along the 1-44 corridor. This is like a bad repeat of December 2007. The funny thing is I was just in rural Lincoln County this weekend and the all of the post oaks still look like hell from last ice storm. If this holds up they will have to change the name from "green country" to "jangled mess country".

Venture you mentioned that the storm is pulling in warm air at the mid level, which will snuff out any chance of major snow. Is there a possibility that the storm is powerful enough to pull warmer air at the low levels and maybe keep us above freezing longer than what is predicted?

[venture]

If you noticed on my graphic, I didn't fill in a lot of South Central OK with any ice, because I'm going with the hunch that surface temps are going to be in the 33-34 range and stop most significant ice accumulations. This is a crap shoot though, but I'm going to bet on it right now. However, higher elevations and south in the south will probably be cold enough for ice. I guess I could have went with like the purple polka dots or something.

[Thunder]

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At 1:00pm, Rick will be answering questions.

Elsewhere, the radars is picking up weird noise. After investigations, it was discovered Mike is still screaming, "AHHHHHHHH!" KFOR viewers are advised to turn down their television sound volume.

[venture]

New forecast from OUN...

[sacolton]

Mike Morgan said we're all gonna die.

[westsidesooner]

Meanwhile, as excitement over the prospect for a lot of frozen precipt. builds, has anyone heard that the NWS has raised the criteria on size of hail to define a severe thunderstorm? It's now at 1" raised from 3/4 in. Story at: National Weather Service - Warning Decision Training Branch

Yup...good change in my opinion.

I agree 3/4" hail isn't very damaging, and it might keep down on unneccesary warnings that get the public apethetic.

Wow that is not good at all. An inch of ice right along the 1-44 corridor. This is like a bad repeat of December 2007. The funny thing is I was just in rural Lincoln County this weekend and the all of the post oaks still look like hell from last ice storm. If this holds up they will have to change the name from "green country" to "jangled mess country".

One good thing though is that a lot of the weaker trees have already been damaged or downed. The same thing happened here on the westside a few years ago. The 2001 (or 2002) storm didn't have as much ice as 2007 but we had much less tree damage in 2007 than the 2001 (or 2002) icestorm because all the weaker limbs had already come down.

On a sidenote I just watched the noon weather on 4 and 9 and I have to admit its kinda disturbing. I don't want to sound sexist, for all I know both of these women are highly professional meteorologists, but it seems like the local channels are following the trend set by Fox and going with pretty women to get more viewers. The woman on 9 twice said we we're going to have freezing snow tomorrow. hmm.

I have the same problem when they send their amatuer journalists out storm chasing and they don't know the difference between a wall cloud and a shelf cloud....and half the time can't describe the scene they are witnessing, or what their location is. if the stations true intent is to protect it's viewers wouldn't it be prudent to send qualified proffesionals into the field? It also makes me wonder how many tv meteorolgists a station really needs. We get one guy at 6am, a woman at noon, and I'm sure Mike and Gary are saving themselves for primetime.

Some consistency would be nice. OK my rant is over. lol

[OKCMallen]

(What is the difference b/n a wall cloud and a shelf cloud?)

[FritterGirl]

On a sidenote I just watched the noon weather on 4 and 9 and I have to admit its kinda disturbing. I don't want to sound sexist, for all I know both of these women are highly professional meteorologists, but it seems like the local channels are following the trend set by Fox and going with pretty women to get more viewers. The woman on 9 twice said we we're going to have freezing snow tomorrow. hmm.

Yeah. Cause the world needs more of these guys.

Now back to your regular programming (something you WON'T see for the next 48 hours!)

[JIMBO]

I just heard on the radio that the city has replenished its salt supply for the coming storm. Both buckets!

[Bunty]

(What is the difference b/n a wall cloud and a shelf cloud?)

That's a good question. See answer at: Wall cloud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Thunder]

For anyone on here having fish tanks, you are responsible for the life of the fish and the beneficial bacteria in the filters. Take the proper steps to ensure they all will remain alive in case of an event of power outage in your area.

The link to The Oklahoma Aquarium Club is in my signature. I've started the Winter Weather Emergency thread, so read thru it and register to be a member to ask questions.

It's important that those that have fish tanks to understand that the bacteria colony in the filters is crucial (right word?) to maintain the safety of the water for the fish.

[Thunder]

Live Wire | Oklahoma Winter Storm Updates | Liveblog live blogging

Will continue for the duration of the storm.

Latest info going around (not confirmed), the interstates are to close tomorrow at 3pm.

[venture]

Live Wire | Oklahoma Winter Storm Updates | Liveblog live blogging

Will continue for the duration of the storm.

Latest info going around (not confirmed), the interstates are to close tomorrow at 3pm.

Interstate rumor is bogus. Probably office workers trying to get their businesses to shut down.

[MEvans]

Live Wire | Oklahoma Winter Storm Updates | Liveblog live blogging

Will continue for the duration of the storm.

Latest info going around (not confirmed), the interstates are to close tomorrow at 3pm.

From the mouth of Mike Morgan at 10:00 p.m. last night! I wonder if he's backed off that statement now?

[venture]

I'm glad Morgan works for ODOT now. /sigh

[venture]

18Z NAM has the dry slot very well defined over Central OK by 12 AM Friday. Previous amount forecast looks okay...may need to raise the ice accumulation to the SW.

[Bostonfan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's looking more and more that this storm is a dud, at least for the OKC area.

[venture]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's looking more and more that this storm is a dud, at least for the OKC area.

Its going to be a significant icing event, not so much snow. In terms of property damage and risk to life, this is worse than a ton of snow.

[sacolton]

Are we going to die?

[PennyQuilts]

Are we going to die?

Eventually. Probably not from this unless Darwin gets involved.

[blangtang]

i will consider the storm a dud if my electricity works tomorrow night

[Bostonfan]

Its going to be a significant icing event, not so much snow. In terms of property damage and risk to life, this is worse than a ton of snow.

I totally agree, ice is much worse. Just seems to me the storm is moving more north now and temps may not get as cold at the surface. Then you add the dry slot shutting rain off sooner. maybe I'm totally off.

[sacolton]

Seems like KFOR is downplaying the storm now.