Embassy Suites

[BoulderSooner]

Parking is an issue in those places because they put pedestrians first in their downtowns and limit parking and auto-centric designs. Make walking easy and people will walk, make driving easy and people will drive. This development belongs on memorial road.

the HSC is not downtown .. and this development fits in with all the surrounding property .. including the new toby keith children's place across the street

[BoulderSooner]

The abundance of parking is creating other issues though. But alas, that's not the topic at hand. And we've beat that horse into a Whopper.

Boulder, has the city considered a parking structure through some kind of partnership in that district that you know of or has parking always been a private consideration? And does anyone know if by chance parking minimums are actually a contributing factor and that in fact, OU's preference has little to do with it?

i don't know of the city considering a parking structure in that area . ... and parking on a development like this have more to do with the developer "wants" than anything. The perception of having open parking spaces is desirable

[catch22]

the HSC is not downtown .. and this development fits in with all the surrounding property .. including the new toby keith children's place across the street

How is this not downtown? This development is the same distance from Deep Deuce (4th street) as 4th street is from the Bricktown Ballpark.

2,200 feet.

[Just the facts]

How is this not downtown?

It is because some people confuse the term downtown (an area that has all the amenities and functions of a self-supporting town) with that of a Central Business District (whose primary function is relegated to office space and support activities during normal business hours). The central business district of OKC stopped being 'downtown' at some point in the 1950s. The confusion and overlapping of terms is now rampant in North America.

[BoulderSooner]

It is because some people confuse the term downtown (an area that has all the amenities and functions of a self-supporting town) with that of a Central Business District (whose primary function is relegated to office space and support activities during normal business hours). The central business district of OKC stopped being 'downtown' at some point in the 1950s. The confusion and overlapping of terms is now rampant in North America.

i don't confuse CBD with downtown .. but just for my info how big is downtown??

[Just the facts]

i don't confuse CBD with downtown .. but just for my info how big is downtown??

That is a darn good question. I am open to any suggestions. All I can give is a relative example - it is a much bigger area than it was 50 years ago and a smaller area than it was 10 years ago.

[BoulderSooner]

That is a darn good question. I am open to any suggestions. All I can give is a relative example - it is a much bigger area than it was 50 years ago and a smaller area than it was 10 years ago.

i would submit that "downtown" is the urban neighbors boundary 13th classen river and I 235

[Just the facts]

i would submit that "downtown" is the urban neighbors boundary 13th classen river and I 235

That seems like a good starting point. I guess that would then make Plaza District, Paseo/23rd, Capitol Complex, Medical Complex, and Capitol Hill the next generation of downtown-adjacent neighborhoods where tent-pole density should start.

Good video about tent-pole density here.
http://choosethecross.com/?p=4379

[catch22]

i would submit that "downtown" is the urban neighbors boundary 13th classen river and I 235

I agree with that, but would expand it a little to the east, because HSC is pretty significant and is just on the border of that boundary.

[shawnw]

I can't find the article, but I swear I read a DOK article that came out following a council meeting several years back where the downtown boundaries were officially defined by the city (for core to shore purposes to make it clear downtown went to the river and not just I-40) as 13th to the River and Classen to Lottie... can anybody back me up on this?

[HOT ROD]

subsitute Lincoln for Lottie, then I agree with you.

[Just the facts]

Well either way, I think the Medical Complex is one of the next areas where a concerted effort needs to be made to introduce walkability and new urbanism design principles. After all, if a medical district can't be a supporter of a healthy lifestyle then where can you promote a healthy lifestyle? How many people work in the medical district and how much housing is available for those employees within the district?

[catch22]

Flintco filed for a $25,000,000.00 construction project this week for this project.

[HangryHippo]

Flintco filed for a $25,000,000.00 construction project this week for this project.

I guess this means no revisions to the site layout...

[G.Walker]

Noticed construction fence up around this site this morning, looks like they are getting ready to start doing foundation work.

[ljbab728]

Finally ready to begin construction with opening in Fall, 2014.

http://www.oklahoman.com/article/3872537?embargo=1

[andrew3077]

Snapped this about a week ago, but the concrete has been poured at the HSC Embassy Suites.

[Spartan]

That will seem very suburban, you can tell from how far the foundation is from the street to the left.

[Pete]

This project starting to rise up from the ground. From today:

[Pete]

Couple more:

[HangryHippo]

The site layout on this sucks.

[Plutonic Panda]

whats wrong with it?

[LakeEffect]

whats wrong with it?

Suburban.

[pickles]

whats wrong with it?

It would be at home at Memorial and MacArthur.

Look at the amount of wasted space.

[Urbanized]

PluPan LIKES Memorial and MacArthur. I don't think your argument will persuade him.