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    Quote Originally Posted by baralheia View Post
    Currently unsubstantiated rumors from TheLayoff.com are that the total number laid off will be close to 1,400 - nearly one quarter of the company. If that rumor plays out, along with other rumored layoffs, this could get pretty rough for OKC.
    It certainly isn't good news for OKC but we are now positioned to absorb these kind of cuts without any major impacts. It would be similar to when GM closed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    It certainly isn't good news for OKC but we are now positioned to absorb these kind of cuts without any major impacts. It would be similar to when GM closed up.
    I wouldn't say without "any" impacts. The impact could actually be pretty significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    I wouldn't say without "any" impacts. The impact could actually be pretty significant.
    Well, we disagree then. And note that I did not say "any" impacts. I said "any major impacts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    Well, we disagree then. And note that I did not say "any" impacts. I said "any major impacts".
    1500 white collar HQ jobs gone downtown will have a lot greater impact on the local economy, especially downtown, than the same amount of factory workers out by Tinker. Now, I do agree that it isn't the end of the world and OKC will be able to absorb it, but there will be some pain in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    It certainly isn't good news for OKC but we are now positioned to absorb these kind of cuts without any major impacts. It would be similar to when GM closed up.
    Don't forget the 900 people that were let go by CHK in September (and 100+ SD people earlier as well). Their resumes are still floating around. We've interviewed one of the ex-employees, where I work (no relation to O&G industry), a few weeks back.
    Also, who/what is going to absorb these losses? We're going thru a major rut in O&G at this point (with no silver lining in sight). If you add up all the past layoffs, the incoming Devon one, you're looking at around 2500* people in less than a year. This total combined equals quite a few of the largest employers we have in OKC: Greater Oklahoma City Economic Development - Major Employers

    Rumor mill: https://www.thelayoff.com/devon-energy

    *If DVN loses close to 1500 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimino View Post
    Don't forget the 900 people that were let go by CHK in September (and 100+ SD people earlier as well). Their resumes are still floating around. We've interviewed one of the ex-employees, where I work (no relation to O&G industry), a few weeks back.
    Also, who/what is going to absorb these losses? We're going thru a major rut in O&G at this point (with no silver lining in sight). If you add up all the past layoffs, the incoming Devon one, you're looking at around 2500* people in less than a year. This total combined equals quite a few of the largest employers we have in OKC: Greater Oklahoma City Economic Development - Major Employers

    Rumor mill: https://www.thelayoff.com/devon-energy

    *If DVN loses close to 1500 people.
    When I said absorb, I meant that it shouldn't have a major impact on the OKC economy. That doesn't mean no impact, just not a major impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    When I said absorb, I meant that it shouldn't have a major impact on the OKC economy. That doesn't mean no impact, just not a major impact.
    It will have a larger impact on downtown than OKC as a whole. OKC desperately needs more of an employment base downtown that isn't in the energy sector.

    Remember that through the '80s, there was still plenty of growth on the suburban fringe, even though downtown was practically finished off during the period (after its long decline). The 80s and the 90s were the golden age of the Putnam City area.

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    ^

    They did not mention numbers at all today so I suspect that is just a number someone threw out without really having legit info.

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    The rumor is 1500 jobs will be axed mostly at the HQ. Hopefully it's not that many but if it is that is a major blow that will negatively impact OKC especially downtown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    The rumor is 1500 jobs will be axed mostly at the HQ. Hopefully it's not that many but if it is that is a major blow that will negatively impact OKC especially downtown.
    Again, I think it is a major blow for the people affected. It is significant for downtown OKC but I don't think it should be called a major blow.

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    Heard last night from someone who I would consider a pretty good source that the number will be at least 30% of their total work force but maybe up to 40%. He did say though that it will likely stay closer to 30%. That is second hand information so file that in the rumor mill. This person heard that from some higher ranking officers at Devon and does know a several of them pretty well. Again it may not be an accurate number, but does reinforce the idea that whatever cuts are made will be significant.

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    So, do they still need to build that new tower or nah? Nah.

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    If losing 1,400 jobs won't have a big negative impact why does the City and State offer millions, and sometimes hundreds of millions, in incentives to attract 1,400 jobs? Look how much the City spent on just 150 jobs for GE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    If losing 1,400 jobs won't have a big negative impact why does the City and State offer millions, and sometimes hundreds of millions, in incentives to attract 1,400 jobs? Look how much the City spent on just 150 jobs for GE.
    It will be a big impact, but it's not going to crush downtown like portrayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    It will be a big impact, but it's not going to crush downtown like portrayed.
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.
    It's that damn sprawl man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.
    That new building won't be open for business for two years. Much can change in that time.

    As for your second paragraph, you once again are making things up and stating them with authority when you have no idea what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.
    From someone who actually knows people that work for Devon and interacts with them on a weekly basis, I can tell you that they bolded portion of your post isn't remotely true. Many of their employees go to restaurants outside of the building for lunch (why eat from the same three restaurants every day?), go to happy hour and eat dinner downtown after work, go to athletic activities at MBG at all times of the day, go to Thunder games afterwork, and even go to other gyms because "The Well" gets over crowded. Some employees may choose to come and go without leaving the building on a daily basis, but "most" is a major over generalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    From someone who actually knows people that work for Devon and interacts with them on a weekly basis, I can tell you that they bolded portion of your post isn't remotely true. Many of their employees go to restaurants outside of the building for lunch (why eat from the same three restaurants every day?), go to happy hour and eat dinner downtown after work, go to athletic activities at MBG at all times of the day, go to Thunder games afterwork, and even go to other gyms because "The Well" gets over crowded. Some employees may choose to come and go without leaving the building on a daily basis, but "most" is a major over generalization.
    From someone who actually works for Devon - that is my perspective from INSIDE the building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.
    I've never met a Devon employee that didn't live in Edmond or Deer Creek, I would have to agree with everything you stated.... With exception they probably leave for lunch more than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundra View Post
    I've never met a Devon employee that didn't live in Edmond or Deer Creek, I would have to agree with everything you stated.... With exception they probably leave for lunch more than you think.
    There are tons of Devon employees living all over town. But people on here who are ignorant of facts tend to try to make caricatures of people and places to fit their skewed vision of reality. Certain New urbanists think Edmond is a universal rallying call to prove all things evil. If you can tag it Edmond it is a get out of jail card for reality. It is like the tea partiers saying any expose that isn't flattering is because if the "liberal media".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundra View Post
    I've never met a Devon employee that didn't live in Edmond or Deer Creek.
    This is funny....and not funny at the same time. Neighbors on either side of me are both Devon employees. One is in some type of management, and the other is a "contractor" of sorts. I drink beer with one of them every now and again, out front watching the kids play...but am not particularly close friends with either one. I know that neither of their wives work...as they are stay at home mom kinda chicks...So, I would assume a large layoff could have some type of an impact on housing in the immediate area, but hoping that neither one are effected. (Not so much concerned for them...but for the welfare of home resale value in my area.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    One thing we do know for sure - employee parking is about to get much easier. Not sure who is going to use those 2 new garages.

    Also, I agree that downtown won't see much impact as well since most of the Devon employees arrive by car, eat lunch inside the building, go to the gym inside the building, get medical care inside the building, and then drive home to Edmond at 5PM. It will have a high personal cost to a lot of people, but Edmond will see a bigger negative impact than downtown will.
    Let's be honest, most people at Devon (or anywhere else) don't work out at all. We are not exactly a healthy state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellCole View Post
    Let's be honest, most people at Devon (or anywhere else) don't work out at all. We are not exactly a healthy state.
    "Toni Parks Payne, the fitness center’s director, says 85 percent of its on-site employees use the facility."

    Companies Turn To "Wellness" Program To Reduce Health-Care Costs - Business Insider

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