University Town Center

[mugofbeer]

Two birds in the bush. No reason for Norman to bail out OU.and this is exactly what it is.

Negativity just for negativity's sake.

[Jersey Boss]

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[jedicurt]

But that’s the thing. The “someone” who is paying for the arena is mostly taxpayers. This arena is just a free gift to development speculators to attempt to increase the value of the surrounding property. They want the arena as the cornerstone of their plans but don’t want to pay for it. If so much of the arena is going to be built with public funds, build it near the public university it serves.

The entire point of this project was to get an arena built at UNP with private money because OU couldn’t afford to do it themselves. Now the private money is barely seen for the arena itself and it’s back to Taxpayer money and a chip in from OU to fund the majority of the arena. It doesn’t add up.

it's not happening on campus... just accept that. Joe C has said that isn't a possibility in the next 15 years.

and it's being build with city of norman and cleveland county taxpayer money, but state money. so the city of norman should get something out of it. what they are getting is more development and business. more in property tax revenue, and sales tax. why build it on the OU campus, where there is no other development to come with it that would benefit the city? I would be even more opposed to this if that were the case, because then the money should be 100% from OU, and nothing from Norman.

[BoulderSooner]

But that’s the thing. The “someone” who is paying for the arena is mostly taxpayers. This arena is just a free gift to development speculators to attempt to increase the value of the surrounding property. They want the arena as the cornerstone of their plans but don’t want to pay for it. If so much of the arena is going to be built with public funds, build it near the public university it serves.

The entire point of this project was to get an arena built at UNP with private money because OU couldn’t afford to do it themselves. Now the private money is barely seen for the arena itself and it’s back to Taxpayer money and a chip in from OU to fund the majority of the arena. It doesn’t add up.

this is completely wrong ..


but with you that should not be surprising ..

[Crocodile Tears]

this is completely wrong ..


but with you that should not be surprising ..

Great context as usual..

[Crocodile Tears]

A disguised OSU fan registering with a second account to obsess over OU.

I would appreciate you not attacking me while I simply discuss the topic of a thread.

[chssooner]

I would appreciate you not attacking me while I simply discuss the topic of a thread.

Discussing the project is one thing. But you aren't doing that. You are attacking OU for something that isn't true. Hence Pete calling you out.

[Crocodile Tears]

Discussing the project is one thing. But you aren't doing that. You are attacking OU for something that isn't true. Hence Pete calling you out.

Attacking OU? I haven't posted a single negative comment about OU in this thread. What are you talking about?

Pete didn't call me out in context to anything I said, instead he just went for personal attacks. This is why I politely asked him to stop.

[Jersey Boss]

I noticed that the Stones are undertaking an 18 dates US stadium tour this summer. The closest they will perform to Norman is Houston and Denver. Another lost opportunity for OU to generate some money for the University and Norman merchants.

[Pete]

I would appreciate you not attacking me while I simply discuss the topic of a thread.

You are in violation of site policy by creating a second account to circumvent a previous banning.

All you are here for is to bad-mouth OU.


I have let you continue to post so other people will recognize you for what you are.

[Thunderbolt]

I noticed that the Stones are undertaking an 18 dates US stadium tour this summer. The closest they will perform to Norman is Houston and Denver. Another lost opportunity for OU to generate some money for the University and Norman merchants.

Yes, too bad one of the most popular musical groups in the history of the world did not select a town of 100,000 among its 18 cities to tour, choosing instead to play in billion dollar NFL facilities in the largest markets in the country. Shame on OU for missing out...

While we're at it, why didn't OU do more to attract the Taylor Swift Eras Tour??? She, of course, did not play in any college football facilities, but we should still hold OU responsible for missing out on this opportunity.

(sarcasm)

[king183]

Yes, too bad one of the most popular musical groups in the history of the world did not select a town of 100,000 among its 18 cities to tour, choosing instead to play in billion dollar NFL facilities in the largest markets in the country. Shame on OU for missing out...

While we're at it, why didn't OU do more to attract the Taylor Swift Eras Tour??? She, of course, did not play in any college football facilities, but we should still hold OU responsible for missing out on this opportunity.

(sarcasm)

Except the Stones previously have selected “the town of 100,000” and played in Norman at Memorial Stadium, arguably at the peak of their popularity, so it’s not some outlandish idea.

[jedicurt]

Except the Stones previously have selected “the town of 100,000” and played in Norman at Memorial Stadium, arguably at the peak of their popularity, so it’s not some outlandish idea.

the Bridges to Babylon Tour in '97 was 47 stops in North America, with 42 stops in the US... this is 18 stops in North America with 16 in the US . it's not a comparable tour at all.

[cinnamonjock]

I'd imagine there are a number of groups who prefer to play in college towns and in venues about this size. It would be attractive since it is right off I-35 and not far from I-40 or I-44, plus it has good lodging just across the street. Also, some bands just prefer to play in smaller venues, but not places so small that tickets are hundreds of dollars apiece.

[jedicurt]

I'd imagine there are a number of groups who prefer to play in college towns and in venues about this size. It would be attractive since it is right off I-35 and not far from I-40 or I-44, plus it has good lodging just across the street. Also, some bands just prefer to play in smaller venues, but not places so small that tickets are hundreds of dollars apiece.

agreed. but it looks like the Rolling Stones in 2024 on their very limited tour, isn't one of them

[chssooner]

I noticed that the Stones are undertaking an 18 dates US stadium tour this summer. The closest they will perform to Norman is Houston and Denver. Another lost opportunity for OU to generate some money for the University and Norman merchants.

This is a reach, even for you. Like, come on, man. At least try. I get you are against the arena, and against any taxpayer dollars for any sports facility, but this is a terrible, terrible post.

[Jersey Boss]

This is a reach, even for you. Like, come on, man. At least try. I get you are against the arena, and against any taxpayer dollars for any sports facility, but this is a terrible, terrible post.

Still playing defense. Quit being so offended

[chssooner]

Still playing defense. Quit being so offended

Oh, an asinine statement like bashing Norman for not getting the Walking Dead, I mean the Rolling Stones, doesn't offend me. What does is that you are usually even-keel, and don't post stupid crap for a reaction. But here we are.

[Jersey Boss]

Oh, an asinine statement like bashing Norman for not getting the Walking Dead, I mean the Rolling Stones, doesn't offend me. What does is that you are usually even-keel, and don't post stupid crap for a reaction. But here we are.

You also lack reading comprehension skills.
Nowhere did I bash Norman. I was critical of the university in not getting a major touring act. OU is not part of the Norman government.
Furthermore I am not opposed to public funding of sports venues. What I am opposed to is a municipality being on the hook for paying for added infrastructure, OT for cops, etc. to benefit a state facility. It is the University of Oklahoma not Norman University. A new bb facility should be funded by the state.
Money is there to fight the tribes, money for Canoo/Panasonic among others. Oklahoma needs to quit cutting resources to the University.

[PhiAlpha]

Oh, an asinine statement like bashing Norman for not getting the Walking Dead, I mean the Rolling Stones, doesn't offend me. What does is that you are usually even-keel, and don't post stupid crap for a reaction. But here we are.

Which brings me to an interesting realization. How the hell did Keith Richards of all people outlive Jimmy Buffett?!?

[chssooner]

Which brings me to an interesting realization. How the hell did Keith Richards of all people outlive Jimmy Buffett?!?

Drugs work in mysterious ways. Lol

[Dob Hooligan]

I noticed that the Stones are undertaking an 18 dates US stadium tour this summer. The closest they will perform to Norman is Houston and Denver. Another lost opportunity for OU to generate some money for the University and Norman merchants.

You have any knowledge of the selection process and whether OU had ANY opportunity to engage in it?

[mugofbeer]

You also lack reading comprehension skills.
Nowhere did I bash Norman. I was critical of the university in not getting a major touring act. OU is not part of the Norman government.
Furthermore I am not opposed to public funding of sports venues. What I am opposed to is a municipality being on the hook for paying for added infrastructure, OT for cops, etc. to benefit a state facility. It is the University of Oklahoma not Norman University. A new bb facility should be funded by the state.
Money is there to fight the tribes, money for Canoo/Panasonic among others. Oklahoma needs to quit cutting resources to the University.

They are a band led by octogenarians yet you think their extremely limited tour would go to go to Norman ....... riiiiight....

[bombermwc]

It's a bit off topic at this point, but the Stones are old farts now. They couldn't do a 47 site tour if they wanted to. It's apples and oranges. We're arguing about one band and how that's supposed to determine if something/somewhere is big "enough"? Especially it being a band of old farts. I saw them in OKC back in the early 00's. But that was 20 years ago now. They have aged a LOT in those 20 years. I would suggest finding a new metric to gauge your opinions against,

[BG918]

Watching the OU bball game at a packed Fieldhouse and wishing OU was more committed to renovating this arena and moving more games there. Duke, one of the most storied programs in CBB, uses an arena not much bigger than the Fieldhouse.