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    Another 'plan'... -___-

    Plans to fix the crumbling state Capitol appear to be advancing in the Oklahoma Legislature.

    The House previously rejected a Senate bill for a $160 million bond measure to fix plumbing, electrical systems and parts of the building’s facade, but House leaders are now discussing a similar but slightly smaller proposal.


    The new plan envisions a $120 million bond measure. The bonds would be retired in 10 years to save on interest

    - read more here: Crumbling Oklahoma Capitol: New plan emerging to fix crumbling building | News OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidD_NorthOKC View Post
    I think he did.
    I think he noticed there was an argument within his original argument and needed to address the issue before it got out of hand(not foot, there is a difference). That's my take anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    I think he noticed there was an argument within his original argument and needed to address the issue before it got out of hand(not foot, there is a difference). That's my take anyways.
    Are you arguing with yourself now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidD_NorthOKC View Post
    Are you arguing with yourself now?
    Maybe it's contagious?

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    Meantime, the biggest repair and refurbishment project in the history of the 96-year-old state Capitol is to be accomplished through a $120 million, 10-year bond measure. Longstanding problems in the plumbing, electrical system and facade of the landmark building would finally be fixed.

    A four-pound chunk of concrete nearly hit a worker’s desk recently in a basement office, a backed up pipe in the same area spewed smelly water into the carpet and parts of the grounds outside the building are blocked off to prevent people from being hit by falling pieces of the building’s crumbling facade.

    House Speaker Jeff Hickman called the repairs long overdue and noted that an oversight committee would ensure the project is completed “in an efficient and fiscally conservative manner.”

    Oklahoma Finance Secretary: Indian museum funding proposal 'dead' | News OK

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    Hopefully they tear it down and don''t just put surface parking on it.

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    I usually don't agree with newsok/Joklahoman editorials, but this one I do (assuming it's correct, since I haven't really fact-checked everything in it):

    Politics at heart of bond issue opposition by Oklahoma House members | News OK

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    http://www.oklahoman.com/article/4851172?embargo=1

    Towering scaffolding around the state Capitol will be the first indication that the biggest repair, refurbishment and remodel in the 96-year history of the landmark building is under way.



    Many details of the project are yet to be worked out, but some facts are clear.

    Overall funding will be $120 million under a bond measure that was given final approval Friday by the Oklahoma Legislature. The governor is expected to sign the measure.

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    Is this what the State Capitol will look like in 2,000 years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Heaton View Post
    Is this what the State Capitol will look like in 2,000 years...

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    Probably nothing at all will be left. The better question is will anything be left in 200 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Heaton View Post
    Is this what the State Capitol will look like in 2,000 years...

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    Probably - if future generations are lucky. Long gone are the days of the public taking pride in civic buildings. You only have to look at public schools to see this in sharp relief. At one time the local school was an object of pride and built on a grand scale and now most schools are nothing more than acres of portable mobile homes or metal sheds built for the lowest possible cost. Do you think anything like the original Central High School could every be built today - despite our vast wealth compared to OKC in 1909? It couldn't be done in a million years. Now John Rex is the new high standard and if that had been proposed in 1909 the architect would have been publicly executed for trying to rip off the public treasury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    Probably - if future generations are lucky. Long gone are the days of the public taking pride in civic buildings. You only have to look at public schools to see this in sharp relief. At one time the local school was an object of pride and built on a grand scale and now most schools are nothing more than acres of portable mobile homes or metal sheds built for the lowest possible cost. Do you think anything like the original Central High School could every be built today - despite our vast wealth compared to OKC in 1909? It couldn't be done in a million years. Now John Rex is the new high standard and if that had been proposed in 1909 the architect would have been publicly executed for trying to rip off the public treasury.
    I like this! And you are soooooooooo right. I am not even going to look it up...but my OLD Junior High School (Roosevelt) and High School (San Diego High) were magnificent old buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    Probably - if future generations are lucky. Long gone are the days of the public taking pride in civic buildings. You only have to look at public schools to see this in sharp relief. At one time the local school was an object of pride and built on a grand scale and now most schools are nothing more than acres of portable mobile homes or metal sheds built for the lowest possible cost. Do you think anything like the original Central High School could every be built today - despite our vast wealth compared to OKC in 1909? It couldn't be done in a million years. Now John Rex is the new high standard and if that had been proposed in 1909 the architect would have been publicly executed for trying to rip off the public treasury.
    2000 years is a long time for any building. Anything built with steel isn't going to last long at all if future generations don't keep up on the upkeep by constantly repainting and restealing a structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    Probably - if future generations are lucky. Long gone are the days of the public taking pride in civic buildings. You only have to look at public schools to see this in sharp relief. At one time the local school was an object of pride and built on a grand scale and now most schools are nothing more than acres of portable mobile homes or metal sheds built for the lowest possible cost. Do you think anything like the original Central High School could every be built today - despite our vast wealth compared to OKC in 1909? It couldn't be done in a million years. Now John Rex is the new high standard and if that had been proposed in 1909 the architect would have been publicly executed for trying to rip off the public treasury.
    Funny that you mention this. In the original contract for the building it was suppose to be 3 stories with a dome. Well, the legislature at the time of the construction decided they needed more room. So, they circumvented the contract by adding a 'basement and attic' getting the 5 floors they wanted. Consequently, they ran out of money to build the dome - and so it remained without a dome until the Keating administration.

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    ...and the AICC will look that way in 10 years.

    We should make the House work w/ hardhats & steel toe boots everyday until they pass funding for the AICC. ...then we will let them fix the capital.

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    Some political fodder about the capitol project thought I would share. The sticky note comments on the pdf are funny.

    http://www.shannonforussenate.com/houserepairs.pdf

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    From News9

    OKLAHOMA CITY - For years we have watched the state capitol crumble right in front of our eyes, but finally this year, the legislature approved $120 million in bonds to fix the building.
    Oklahomans should see the repairs begin on the outside of the building before the end of the year. However, it will take about a year from now to work out a plan to fix the interior.

    A visit to the capitol on Monday proved those repairs can't begin soon enough. The east tunnel of the capitol was closed as water dripped from the ceiling, the floor was flooded, and an odor wafts in the air.

    "It does have a musty smell to it, kind of like an old garage that's been closed up," said David Kaul

    "There's no shortage of problems in the basement of the capitol," said John Estus, Director of Public Affairs for the Office of Management and Enterprise Services, the agency in charge of maintaining the capitol.

    Estus says fixing those problems in the basement will be a priority once the interior repairs begin.

    - Plans Coming Together After $120 Million Approved For Capitol - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

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    The large conference room on the 2nd floor which is utilized by the Governor is getting renovations.

    According to former Capitol Architect Paul B. Meyer, this is something that has been on the State Capitol Preservation Commission’s “Wish List” for over 15 years.The project is currently budgeted at approximately $150,000, which would include repair and restoration costs, lighting, custom rugs, and a mural.

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    When is the Satan statue going in?

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