Oklahoma liquor laws

[catch22]

WalMart won't kill off the good liquor stores, it will kill off the bad ones. From my experience in Portland, it was nice being able to throw a few strong beers and a bottle of cheap wine in the cart at WalMart and be done with it. Still purchased specialty craft beers and hard liquor at the liquor store.

It won't devastate. It may actually help the good liquor stores improve their margins. It will drive people who want cheap, strong beer to walmart, leaving more room for higher margin craft beers and more expensive wine. Your beer expert is not going to suddenly stop buying craft beer at the liquor store because WalMart sells full strength Budweiser.

[bradh]

In Texas, Spec's is stronger than ever with 55 locations in Houston, and somehow every HEB having a serious local craft beer selection and in store wine tastings(!) doesn't appear to slow them down.

[jerrywall]

In Texas, Spec's is stronger than ever with 55 locations in Houston, and somehow every HEB having a serious local craft beer selection and in store wine tastings(!) doesn't appear to slow them down.

Have you ever compared Spec's prices with Byrons (especially on liquor)? It's an interesting exercise.

[Bunty]

Exactly,no options for small towns because Walmart killed off many of the ones that were there.

Long ago a friend of mine who worked at Gibson's said someone from Wal-Mart would come in and snoop on their prices. It was tolerated as long as Wal-Mart allowed them to do the same. However, snooping behind the counter wasn't permitted. Eventually, Wal-Mart moved into a new super center, and Gibson's soon closed. I wonder how often Wal-Mart goes price snooping these days in small towns.

[OKCRT]

Long ago a friend of mine who worked at Gibson's said someone from Wal-Mart would come in and snoop on their prices. It was tolerated as long as Wal-Mart allowed them to do the same. However, snooping behind the counter wasn't permitted. Eventually, Wal-Mart moved into a new super center, and Gibson's soon closed. I wonder how often Wal-Mart goes price snooping these days in small towns.

Yes, not many places left for them to snoop around in these days. The Walmart fat cats make their billions while paying the help peanuts and providing a lot of junk to the public. It's enough to make you sick when you think about how they played a huge part in destroying many of the places we used to go shopping at. And yes I am sure they will have huge shelves full of liq. but they will not be getting any cash from me.

[jerrywall]

Long ago a friend of mine who worked at Gibson's said someone from Wal-Mart would come in and snoop on their prices. It was tolerated as long as Wal-Mart allowed them to do the same. However, snooping behind the counter wasn't permitted. Eventually, Wal-Mart moved into a new super center, and Gibson's soon closed. I wonder how often Wal-Mart goes price snooping these days in small towns.

I know they've hit Crest quite often and have been thrown out. Not small towns but still.

When Wal-Mart puts into their investor statements that their goal is to put KB Toys out of business, you have to wonder.

[bradh]

Have you ever compared Spec's prices with Byrons (especially on liquor)? It's an interesting exercise.

craft beer...cheaper
boxed wine...25% cheaper

didn't look at liqours

[jerrywall]

craft beer...cheaper
boxed wine...25% cheaper

didn't look at liqours

Liquors are the big difference. When we had our shop part of what I did was price compare to both Byron's and Specs. The difference was amazing. When you lose a big part of your "milk and eggs" sales, you have to offset elsewhere. The competition with Wal-Mart for wine and beer will drop those areas, but it is going to be offset.

[bradh]

I guess I'm not following. What do you expect the liqour prices at Spec's to be?

[jerrywall]

I guess I'm not following. What do you expect the liqour prices at Spec's to be?

You'd think being a chain in the liquor paradise that is Texas they'd be cheaper than a single store operation in Oklahoma.

[bradh]

You'd think being a chain in the liquor paradise that is Texas they'd be cheaper than a single store operation in Oklahoma.

I wouldn't, I assume their beer and wine is cheaper because it has to be, so they hold liqour prices up?

[jerrywall]

I wouldn't, I assume their beer and wine is cheaper because it has to be, so they hold liqour prices up?

Well yeah, that's exactly the reality. It just surprised me the first time I observed that.

[OKCRT]

Well yeah, that's exactly the reality. It just surprised me the first time I observed that.

Prices will most likely drop on certain items in Ok. also. Is that not a good thing for the consumer?

[jerrywall]

Prices will most likely drop on certain items in Ok. also. Is that not a good thing for the consumer?

It depends if there is less availability.

[mattjank]

Well yeah, that's exactly the reality. It just surprised me the first time I observed that.

I guess its because I don't drink the staples (Crown, Jack, et al), but the whisky, scotch and even vodka I buy is on average $2.50 to $5 per 750ml cheaper at specs than at Byron's. When its on sale there, it can be even cheaper. My old favorite liquor store assured me that wasn't the case over and over, but my receipts for years show otherwise.

[OkiePoke]

Does this law allow me buying wine online and having them ship it to my door?

[jerrywall]

Does this law allow me buying wine online and having them ship it to my door?

Sort of. Only wines not currently on the shelves in Oklahoma, and such wineries would need to purchase a direct shipper's license for $300. Also there's a limit of how many bottles you could buy a year. It's pretty high though.

[OkiePoke]

Sort of. Only wines not currently on the shelves in Oklahoma, and such wineries would need to purchase a direct shipper's license for $300. Also there's a limit of how many bottles you could buy a year. It's pretty high though.

Nice. I have always wanted to try the variety packs they send once a month.

[loveOKC]

And just like that, New Belgium and Stone Brewing coming to Oklahoma.

http://m.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/....html?mode=jqm

[jerrywall]

February? Well there goes that "won't come in without cold beer" myth.

[bchris02]

And just like that, New Belgium and Stone Brewing coming to Oklahoma.

http://m.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/....html?mode=jqm

Is 1554 coming? I don't see it mentioned in the article.

[jerrywall]

Is 1554 coming? I don't see it mentioned in the article.

If I had to guess they'll expand over time as it makes sense.

[Bunty]

http://www.newson6.com/story/3409227...ble-commission

[dcsooner]

The Oklahoma Liquor Cartel in full effect

[jerrywall]

The all powerful Cartel.