Preftakes Block

[Pete]

The City is not going to move from Main Place.

Prefatkes & Co. will just build around them.

The Clayco model shows that as well.

[HOT ROD]

good points bomber. I'm still holding out for at least a few below ground levels though as we build future garages. But I agree I wouldn't want to add to the cost unless the design itself incorporates lower levels (like a major skyscraper would).

I just don't want us to get too carried away with parking garages in the prime core (which we now see has significantly expanded west/south of Devon) when we're also building transit and a major transit hub so folks wont have to drive to begin with. I think we really need a parking master plan and bounce that with the transit plans so we don't waste money or developable spots on above ground 15 story garages. ...

[bombermwc]

Pete - I guess I had it turned around the wrong way. Obviously the Main Place spot is blank on the model, which still gives Preftakes a HUGE plot to work with.

[Spartan]

They have a beautiful, historic parking garage on site. But they need to tear down more historic building fabric to provide parking for a building that will go where the Auto Hotel stood.

This isn't revitalizing, this is remuddling. Not all drastic changes are for the better.

As for FNC, that is an economic development opportunity. Not that this city isn't really fond of gobbling up valuable economic development sites for public facilities (CC, etc)..

[skanaly]

Even though this may never happen on this specific building, I've always like to see these in big cities, BIG advertisements. It makes the city more BIG. But when I did take this picture today I walked around the block, through the alleys and what not. I really do hope that these three buildings stay. I would hate to see the Bus station go but that's not going to be saved...anyway, if there is a proposal that suggests the whole block will be wiped out, I sure hope to God that it doesn't get past Urban Renewal and the City...I know this city has learned SOMETHING from it's past.

[Pete]

^

I'm not sure how that got past design review.

When the Thunder put up banners downtown, they all have to be approved.

[skanaly]

^

I'm not sure how that got past design review.

When the Thunder put up banners downtown, they all have to be approved.

oh haha I guess I should of specified. I photo shopped this, I was just saying I would love to see big advertising here in the city

[catch22]

Good photoshop job. I thought it was real too.

[bombermwc]

They have a beautiful, historic parking garage on site. But they need to tear down more historic building fabric to provide parking for a building that will go where the Auto Hotel stood.

This isn't revitalizing, this is remuddling. Not all drastic changes are for the better.

As for FNC, that is an economic development opportunity. Not that this city isn't really fond of gobbling up valuable economic development sites for public facilities (CC, etc)..

I can appreciate this. It's not often that you get a parking garage that was enclosed in such a manner that it looks like an office building. It's got some very nice elements on the cap that we'd lose. The building happens to be in the wrong place for the new development. It would be nice to keep it, but I'm not intimately familiar with the facility. Is it easy to navigate, can large trucks/suvs/vans fit in it? Just as a question, I wonder if it was built for a different type of vehicle than uses it today. Is it typically full or mostly empty? I'm not pushing one way or another, just asking questions. If a parking garage outlives its usefulness and is holding up development of 4 20 story buildings (assuming that's the design is chosen) with new modern (and hopefully GOOD) garages, I would let the old girl go.

[Pete]

That auto hotel has never been very heavily utilized and I suspect the configuration (columns, low ceilings, tight corners) does not easily allow for today's huge, modern vehicles.

[hoya]

I can appreciate this. It's not often that you get a parking garage that was enclosed in such a manner that it looks like an office building. It's got some very nice elements on the cap that we'd lose. The building happens to be in the wrong place for the new development. It would be nice to keep it, but I'm not intimately familiar with the facility. Is it easy to navigate, can large trucks/suvs/vans fit in it? Just as a question, I wonder if it was built for a different type of vehicle than uses it today. Is it typically full or mostly empty? I'm not pushing one way or another, just asking questions. If a parking garage outlives its usefulness and is holding up development of 4 20 story buildings (assuming that's the design is chosen) with new modern (and hopefully GOOD) garages, I would let the old girl go.

It's not on the same block as the 4 proposed OG&E buildings. It's immediately north of them. We haven't seen the proposed design for its replacement yet. The auto hotel is a great looking old building. I'd prefer if they could design around it.

[UnFrSaKn]

That auto hotel has never been very heavily utilized and I suspect the configuration (columns, low ceilings, tight corners) does not easily allow for today's huge, modern vehicles.

Upper left is my car.

[Jeepnokc]

That auto hotel has never been very heavily utilized and I suspect the configuration (columns, low ceilings, tight corners) does not easily allow for today's huge, modern vehicles.

We parked in it for years. Before Preftakes bought it, it was assigned monthly parking and quite a few of us parked in it. They had the spots marked and they could fit more cars in it. Afterwards, it went to non assigned parking and people would park in such ways that they would take 2 spots. They also blocked the basement parking.

I drove a f250 supercrew and I couldn't park anywhere but the first floor. There was no way to get it on the other floors. It was tight and not for the meek or faint hearted getting a full size Tahoe up to the other floors but there were people that did it.

[catch22]

Upper left is my car.

I won't post a picture of my new car. My friends on here have probably seen enough of it on my social media accounts

[AP]

Good photoshop job. I thought it was real too.

Ha I looked at it last night and thought it was real too. Pretty good job tricking us.

[AP]

i won't post a picture of my new car. My friends on here have probably seen enough of it on my social media accounts

yes

[catch22]

yes

[catch22]

Ha I looked at it last night and thought it was real too. Pretty good job tricking us.

It's not April yet!

[Plutonic Panda]

I won't post a picture of my new car. My friends on here have probably seen enough of it on my social media accounts

Sweden thanks you.

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

Well now I want to see the new car. I feel like the kid that is intentionally left out.

[Spartan]

That auto hotel has never been very heavily utilized and I suspect the configuration (columns, low ceilings, tight corners) does not easily allow for today's huge, modern vehicles.

Why would you speculate on the structural condition without knowing for certain? This is dangerous. We're already on a demolition spree, in the dozens of buildings.

[Pete]

Why would you speculate on the structural condition without knowing for certain? This is dangerous.

Just meant it's probably hard to get big cars in and out of there, which was confirmed up-thread by someone who used to park there.

[Plutonic Panda]

Well now I want to see the new car. I feel like the kid that is intentionally left out.

He bought a Koenigsegg

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

Piffle.



BOOOOORING.

[Rover]

Why would you speculate on the structural condition without knowing for certain? This is dangerous. We're already on a demolition spree, in the dozens of buildings.

He didn't comment on condition, but rather configuration. Things can be sturdy and yet functionally obsolete for their intended use. He certainly wasn't advocating demolition, but stating a fact.