OSU Football 2015

[Urbanized]

I will point out that there is no shortage of douche wagons on OU's side.

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Yeah, that is absolutely awful. I doubt that you will find any OU fans who claim a terrible person like that. And I completely agree that all schools have idiots in their fan bases. My only point really is that it's astounding how little stadium security seems to concerns themselves with items being thrown on the field (toss idiots like that, fercryinoutloud), and UNBELIEVABLE that people who must have some sort of athletic department connection/privileges (sideline passes usually aren't easy to come by) have repeatedly attempted to trip opposing players. It blows my mind that it continues to happen.

[jerrywall]

and UNBELIEVABLE that people who must have some sort of athletic department connection/privileges (sideline passes usually aren't easy to come by) have repeatedly attempted to trip opposing players. It blows my mind that it continues to happen.

Well, the last time it was a cheerleader. And he was punished (even though he made no contact). So as far as I know this was the first sideline privilege person attempting this. I'm curious if it was a recruit. If so, I expect they may not be for much longer.

[Urbanized]

Yeah, I would consider a cheerleader someone with athletic department ties. And glad to know they were punished. Honestly I think a big part of the problem is the closeness of the walls. Add to that a hated rival, collegiate football passion and youngsters who often can't see beyond the next five minutes of their lives and you have a recipe for stuff like this. Just seems like there should be some sort of memo. "Don't do this. If you try, it will surely be caught on camera and you will be ejected and banned from future events." The end.

[jerrywall]

My only point really is that it's astounding how little stadium security seems to concerns themselves with items being thrown on the field (toss idiots like that, fercryinoutloud)

Oh, and it happens more than you think. And folks get arrested for it as well... depending on the item. Tossing out Oranges in 1993 when OSU was hammering Nebraska is one thing (and it was during half time). Batteries and golf balls and trash is another.

[Brownwood]

My wife isn't allowed to bring a full sized purse into the stadium, why do they allow the paddle person to bring in his giant reindeer love doll and make a fool of himself and his university on national TV.

[Uptowner]

I guess new trend is to blame coaches publicly after loss....wow.

OKState DE Emmanuel Ogbah: "They pretty much outcoached us. We were outcoached."

Ohio States heisman candidate running back basically did the same thing after their loss to mich state. After carrying the ball 12 times for 13 yards he said the play calling was the reason they lost and he didn't agree with it. He went on to say in the same interview that he didn't really want to play college ball anymore and would be entering the draft.

I didn't see any response from the staff or university until he was embracing a smiling coach Meyer after having run 214 on 33 carries. On Saturday. He didn't apologize, he just quickly said "I let my emotions get the best of me" and let coach change the subject.

It's been my coffee talk subject all week. Whether you respond, and draw even more attention and possibly reprimand a player and affect the play of a game? Or do nothing and let a 20yr old punk who can run fast call you out, you who just won the national title last year, in front of millions of people, possibly affecting your job. How it relates to real life jobs/teams/business and office settings, and where to draw the line.

[okatty]

^I was glad to see some of the stuff in paper today saying that he was basically just repeating what the coaches told them to say and it wasn't said with malice - unlike the Elliott quotes which were hot and heavy. Ogbah seems like a good kid and I hope he gets rewarded with a top draft pick. When I first saw the comments on twitter it was disappointing but since with some context maybe not what i first thought. Benefit of the doubt and all that good stuff.

[Uptowner]

My wife isn't allowed to bring a full sized purse into the stadium, why do they allow the paddle person to bring in his giant reindeer love doll and make a fool of himself and his university on national TV.

I was thinking about this yesterday after talking about the Rudolph humping guy. I'm 'hoping' there's some sort of background check or clearance for that club since their essentially bringing in weapons. But then I got a bit paranoid after thinking about the suicide bomb attacks in the Paris stadium, and the fact that millions of people were watching game day, and the fact that we've been bombed before for less than average security measures at a public building. I generally don't approve of bags in stadiums, they take time to search and take up space in the isles, they never do a good job as we and half the people in our section always manage to sneak liquor in. The NBA has new protocols and I do appreciate the new security standards, it needs to get faster though. If at some point I have to take my shoes and belt off and go through a scanner I just don't want to be a sports fan anymore.

[OKCretro]

Well, the last time it was a cheerleader. And he was punished (even though he made no contact). So as far as I know this was the first sideline privilege person attempting this. I'm curious if it was a recruit. If so, I expect they may not be for much longer.

How was he punished ? I never heard he was

[AP]

Probably because you weren't paying attention. You could have looked just about anywhere.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...33--ncaaf.html
OSU cheerleader to be disciplined for trying to trip OU football player in Bedlam game | KFOR.com
OSU football: OSU cheer squad member will be disciplined after Bedlam gaffe | News OK
Sooner-tripping Oklahoma State cheerleader facing discipline - CBSSports.com
OSU Cheerleader Will Be Disciplined After Nearly Tripping Oklahoma Player | Bleacher Report
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/10...erleader-gaffe

[OKCretro]

Probably because you weren't paying attention. You could have looked just about anywhere.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...33--ncaaf.html
OSU cheerleader to be disciplined for trying to trip OU football player in Bedlam game | KFOR.com
OSU football: OSU cheer squad member will be disciplined after Bedlam gaffe | News OK
Sooner-tripping Oklahoma State cheerleader facing discipline - CBSSports.com
OSU Cheerleader Will Be Disciplined After Nearly Tripping Oklahoma Player | Bleacher Report
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/10...erleader-gaffe

Yes I understand OSU said he would be punished, but what was the actual punishment? A stern talking? kicked off the team?
Huge deference between saying "some will be disciplined" and actually what the disciple will be or was....

from one of your articles....
OSU Deputy Athletic Director Dave Martin told the Big 12 OSU “does not condone, physical or verbally abusive acts toward anyone working, attending or competing in our athletic events.”

“I have met individually with the male student involved with the incident and he is extremely apologetic for his involvement,” Martin said. “And he understands there will be consequences for his poor judgment and actions. At this time, I feel confident the situation has been thoroughly investigated and that consequences for the involved person are warranted and will be administered.”

Martin has not confirmed the nature of the punishment.

[jerrywall]

Yes I understand OSU said he would be punished, but what was the actual punishment? A stern talking? kicked off the team?
Huge deference between saying "some will be disciplined" and actually what the disciple will be or was....

from one of your articles....
OSU Deputy Athletic Director Dave Martin told the Big 12 OSU “does not condone, physical or verbally abusive acts toward anyone working, attending or competing in our athletic events.”

“I have met individually with the male student involved with the incident and he is extremely apologetic for his involvement,” Martin said. “And he understands there will be consequences for his poor judgment and actions. At this time, I feel confident the situation has been thoroughly investigated and that consequences for the involved person are warranted and will be administered.”

Martin has not confirmed the nature of the punishment.

Who knows the details? Why is it your business? He stuck his leg out, didn't actually make any contact, and caused no disruption. Should he be taken out and shot? I imagine he got a talking to and maybe a suspension from the cheer squad. Not sure anything else is needed.

Your crimson is showing.

[Urbanized]

At some point it becomes something that the Big 12 should look at. If opposing players can't participate on the field at a Big 12 school without fear of assault (be it by tripping, by thrown battery or by thrown turkey leg), the conference has a vested interest in seeing that the problem is fixed.

Honestly, it should be as easy as a memo from the athletic director, announcements on the PA, and swift consequences for the offenders, be it ejection, loss of privileges, or outright ban from the stadium. That is how it is handled in most venues. Throw something onto the court at a Thunder game and you can be banned from the building and lose your season tickets. Seriously. I get the feeling that OSU's athletic department is taking too blasé of an approach to this issue. It seems trivial, right up to the point where an athlete is injured.

[jerrywall]

Seriously. I get the feeling that OSU's athletic department is taking too blasé of an approach to this issue. It seems trivial, right up to the point where an athlete is injured.

Except that you're making a lot of assumptions.

[Urbanized]

I said "I get the feeling" which completely acknowledges that it is just an assumption. But I do think that as a recurring issue it should be of interest to the conference.

[Filthy]

At some point it becomes something that the Big 12 should look at. If opposing players can't participate on the field at a Big 12 school without fear of assault (be it by tripping, by thrown battery or by thrown turkey leg), the conference has a vested interest in seeing that the problem is fixed.

Honestly, it should be as easy as a memo from the athletic director, announcements on the PA, and swift consequences for the offenders, be it ejection, loss of privileges, or outright ban from the stadium. That is how it is handled in most venues. Throw something onto the court at a Thunder game and you can be banned from the building and lose your season tickets. Seriously. I get the feeling that OSU's athletic department is taking too blasé of an approach to this issue. It seems trivial, right up to the point where an athlete is injured.

You're just letting your Crimson show. I've been a lifelong OSU fan since 2009, and you Gooners deserve to be tripped, and spit on every time you come to Stillwater, cuz you guys are cheaters, and have woman beeters on yur team. We're the classy ones!

[jerrywall]

You're just letting your Crimson show. I've been a lifelong OSU fan since 2009, and you Gooners deserve to be tripped, and spit on every time you come to Stillwater, cuz you guys are cheaters, and have woman beeters on yur team. We're the classy ones, not you.

Boo. #notallcowboys

[jerrywall]

I said "I get the feeling" which completely acknowledges that it is just an assumption. But I do think that as a recurring issue it should be of interest to the conference.

It's been 20 years since I attended. However, I recall folks getting arrested, escorted from the stadium and banned. I knew of whole frats banned from attending based on behavior. I know of officials calling penalties on the crowd behavior. *Maybe* it doesn't happen anymore. I'll know more when my son enrolls in OSU next year and I start attending games regularly again.

[Pete]

Boo. #notallcowboys

Think you missed on the sarcasm.

[jerrywall]

Think you missed on the sarcasm.

I hope so. I'd hate to think any Cowboy would post that.

[Urbanized]

I hope so. I'd hate to think any Cowboy would post that.

Nah, he was definitely posting a Sooner stereotype of an OSU football fan.

[jerrywall]

Nah, he was definitely posting a Sooner stereotype of an OSU football fan.

Ok, I feel better. That post almost wanted to make me to hang up my cowboy hat.

[Urbanized]

It's been 20 years since I attended. However, I recall folks getting arrested, escorted from the stadium and banned. I knew of whole frats banned from attending based on behavior. I know of officials calling penalties on the crowd behavior. *Maybe* it doesn't happen anymore. I'll know more when my son enrolls in OSU next year and I start attending games regularly again.

I'm admittedly an OU guy posting in an OSU thread, but honestly doing my best to be civil and not TOO partisan. Just saying that it seems to have gotten too out-of-hand - at least at Bedlam - and not much crowd control seems to be being brought to bear.

I was searching for the turkey leg video to post mostly for fun, and instead found this article from after the 2013 game. Watch the video, which I hadn't even seen myself until today. You'll see some OU players mouthing off to OSU fans, which I'm personally not proud of. But tell me whether or not the fans throwing stuff matches up with your experiences from 20 years ago. You won't see EVERYTHING as it is thrown, but look at all of the crap on the field after, and remember it all came from the stands. What part of that is OK? And remember that there are also OSU players and staff on the field and in the line of fire.

Bedlam behaving badly: Bad blood between OSU and OU at an all-time high | News OK

And honestly, I think the worst part is buried in the story, where Trammel says that "...a high-ranking OSU administrator wrote me to defend the students who hurled stuff...".

It might not be cultural/institutional, but there are SOME indications that it MIGHT be, or at the very least that the powers that be are looking the other way.

[OKCretro]

You're just letting your Crimson show. I've been a lifelong OSU fan since 2009, and you Gooners deserve to be tripped, and spit on every time you come to Stillwater, cuz you guys are cheaters, and have woman beeters on yur team. We're the classy ones!

OSU is just as big of cheaters the only problem is osu isn't even good at cheating....

Woman beaters? google Chris Collins for me or Tyreek Hill. And about Tyreek Hill when he got arrested for beating his pregnant girlfriend, she stated it wasn't the first time, but had never been this bad....

remember Gundy and his rant about being a man and 40, what reporter was he yelling and screaming at? You guessed it Jenni Carlson. If the coach treats a woman that way, I am not surprised he allowed Chris Collins on his team.

The best part about osu fans as much as they hate OU and OU fans, they know they cant get into a better conference without ou's help.

It was a great year for OSU, they won their cream puff nonconference games, but when they played the big boys at home, they couldn't handle it.

[jerrywall]

It's not OK, and if true, doesn't match up to behavior from 20 years ago. And it should be corrected. Like I said elsewhere, OSU gets props from most visiting teams for their behavior, so there's no excuse for bedlam BS. I do think both schools have the same problem. When I was in the OSU marching band, I drove myself to Norman so I could go home for the weekend. Marching in the uniform carrying my instrument, if it wasn't for an entire OSU fraternity protecting me, I was about to get mobbed by OU fans. Neither excuses the other of course. Bedlam brings out the worse and should be addressed.