Bricktown violence problem?

[WilliamTell]

Get a bunch of guys swigging beer, wearing cowboy boots, jeans and hats, with guns in their pockets and chances are they have concealed carries and wouldn't dream of shooting in public because that is just so uncool. We don't see this group pulling out their guns and having gun fights in the bars. There is a huge difference between lawful gun owners - who are by far the largest group in the "gun culture" vs. thugs who use guns to intimidate and overpower.

As usual you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.


People with guns in bars 'swigging beers'??? - that's a felony!!! - Instant felony with any alcohol AT ALL IN YOUR SYSTEM, let alone being in a BAR even if your not drinking!!!!

I'm a Concealed Carry person and have been for a long time, but for some reason you are romanticizing the idea of some good ol' cowboy in a bar with his buddies drinking while having their concealed carries?!?!?!

WTH is wrong with you?

[PennyQuilts]

As usual you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.


People with guns in bars 'swigging beers'??? - that's a felony!!! - Instant felony with any alcohol AT ALL IN YOUR SYSTEM, let alone being in a BAR even if your not drinking!!!!

I'm a Concealed Carry person and have been for a long time, but for some reason you are romanticizing the idea of some good ol' cowboy in a bar with his buddies drinking while having their concealed carries?!?!?!

WTH is wrong with you?

Well, you are correct to point out that you can't drink and use your CC and I'm glad you clarified that. I didn't mean they were carrying in a bar. I meant the same guys who are liable to be out having a good time are just as apt to have enough sense to understand guns/gun safety/gun etiquette and have a CC. I contrasted - not romanticized - the difference between your typical good old boy who might get into a bar fight but isn't going to be ridiculous enough to pull a gun (to do that would just be a major embarassment in the majority gun culture) vs. the thugs who are liable to shoot indiscriminately up and down the street and have no frickin' clue that "real" men don't use a gun to do their talking and fighting. I have a CC and enjoy a drink in the bar like everyone else. I certainly didn't mean I would be drinking and carrying - never crossed my mind - which is the difference between most people who have guns and the thugs who think anything goes.

[Spartan]

I contrasted - not romanticized - the difference between your typical good old boy .... vs. the thugs who are liable to shoot indiscriminately up and down the street

I am pretty sure I can read between the lines here.

[PennyQuilts]

I am pretty sure I can read between the lines here.

I'm pretty sure you do that all the time if the words don't fit what you suspect. Open your eyes and your mind, Spartan, it will be liberating. Or would you prefer to go on another rant about gun laws being to blame?

[Spartan]

They are.

But yeah. I'll work on being more open-minded...

[Larry OKC]

"family friendly." = "stupid, meatmarket clubs and bars"

Haven't understood this one, since the clubs and bars are 21+, right? Where does the "family friendly" come in? maybe as long as all members of the family are of legal age???

[betts]

On the other hand, there are lots of restaurants, the candy store, the yogurt store, the banjo museum, the Harkins Theatre, Starbucks, the canal and boats, the Bricktown ballpark, the fountains, outdoor music. All of those say "family friendly" to me.

[Spartan]

I think the point is that neither the family friendly or trashy nightclub niches are working out too well for Bricktown right now. The district needs to diversify. It needs to stop trying as hard as it can to repel urbanites.

[NoOkie]

I think the point is that neither the family friendly or trashy nightclub niches are working out too well for Bricktown right now. The district needs to diversify. It needs to stop trying as hard as it can to repel urbanites.

I think the "family friendly" aspect isn't really a detriment as long as it's not all there is(See KC's Plaza). The real problem is the focus on clubs and trendy bars. The crowd they bring is usually pretty rowdy. If there was just one in the area, it probably wouldn't be a big deal. But having multiple of the same sort of establishment can lead to problems. See: 6th street in Austin, Westport in KC, etc. They attract a concentration of Homo Douche Bagimus. This species comes in several varieties, such as the Affliction wearing UFC fan, the gangsta, and the **** kicker with a big hat.

[Larry OKC]

Betts: that is all certainly true. But then again, I have never understood places like theme parks, baseball stadiums, arenas etc that serve beer/alcohol either...all considered "family friendly"...to me anything that requires you to be an adult disqualifies it from that label...would be like them playing X rated movies at Whitewater Bay on their movie nights (do they still do that?)...or Vegas' "family friendly" marketing they tried a while back (having reverted to "what happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas"/"Sin City").

[NoOkie]

Betts: that is all certainly true. But then again, I have never understood places like theme parks, baseball stadiums, arenas etc that serve beer/alcohol either...all considered "family friendly"...to me anything that requires you to be an adult disqualifies it from that label...would be like them playing X rated movies at Whitewater Bay on their movie nights (do they still do that?)...or Vegas' "family friendly" marketing they tried a while back (having reverted to "what happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas"/"Sin City").

Adults can enjoy a frosty adult beverage while Jr. watches the game, or rides the rides. I have beer at my family cookout, does that turn it into an Adults Only event? Beer does not equal hooligans. Beer equals beer. High concentrations of trashy people getting trashed equals hooligans.

[Larry OKC]

Private setting is one thing, public another (esp with paid attendance). But that is just my opinion that it is contrary to the "advertising"