24th Annual Gay Pride Events and Parade

[Midtowner]

Might wanna double-check your reading comprehension, dude. KilgoreTrout was coming down on lake hefner breeze.

Apologies.

[Midtowner]

Having lived and managed people in San Francisco, I have some familiarity with these folks.

Explain who "these folks" are? All gay people?

[Thunder]

Anyone on here wanna take this gay boy to the pride party? :-O

[Bunty]

In a nutshell...their acceptance will be commensurate locally--wherever--with how much they try to rub their lifestyle choices into other's faces whom they KNOW will be offended. A Parade can be something to be a silly drag queen exposition...or something more logical. The problem gay people face mostly is public behavior they do to outrage others. You can SAY that is not so...I know better. Been there...seen it all.

Once again, if someone expects to be offended and upset by the gay parade and other gay events in OKC, then don't go to any of them. Your problem solved.

[lake hefner breeze]

So is being a judgmental bigot.

Bring on the parade!

This post by bandnerd is a personal attack and should be removed.

According to Pete we should be concerned with how people in other states perceive us by how we treat each other on this site.

It appears those who agree with homosexuality get special treatment.

[Thunder]

This post by bandnerd is a personal attack and should be removed.

You attacked first.

[lake hefner breeze]

You attacked first.

Wrong.

I expressed my beliefs.

[Thunder]

Wrong.

I expressed my beliefs.

Its a very scary belief. :-(

[ljbab728]

In a nutshell...their acceptance will be commensurate locally--wherever--with how much they try to rub their lifestyle choices into other's faces whom they KNOW will be offended. A Parade can be something to be a silly drag queen exposition...or something more logical. The problem gay people face mostly is public behavior they do to outrage others. You can SAY that is not so...I know better. Been there...seen it all.

jmark, do some gay people exhibit outrageous behavior on purpose to get a reaction? Of course some do. But that is basically true of a small segment of any particular minority group. To say that is problem gay people face mostly is a gross exaggeration no matter where you've been or what you've seen.

[lake hefner breeze]

Its a very scary belief. :-(

You shouldn't fear the truth.

[Thunder]

You shouldn't fear the truth.

What truth? You're talking to a gay boy here. Does that scare you?

[ljbab728]

You shouldn't fear the truth.

Fortunately your beliefs and the truth are mutually exclusive. LOL

[MikeOKC]

I have to agree with lake hefner breeze on the attack. He holds an opinion, while not shared by many of us, is shared by a huge number of people. Stating an honest opinion shouldn't result in personal name calling.

[ljbab728]

I have to agree with lake hefner breeze on the attack. He holds an opinion, while not shared by many of us, is shared by a huge number of people. Stating an honest opinion shouldn't result in personal name calling.

I certainly agree with that Mike. No one should be attacked personally. Attacking their beliefs it totally within bounds though.

[venture]

Everyone on this site has the right to post their opinion, when they overstep and start attacking people that is where it goes bad. When their words start to take the path of pure trolling through and do nothing to benefit the discussion, that is just as bad. We've started to see (and have seen) a trend or history of some people and how they choose to interact to where it is mostly inflammatory or out to get a reaction from people. They've delivered zero quality content to the community here and have instead chosen to take on antagonistic role in their time here.

What can we do? If you don't agree with them or prefer not to deal with any negative trolling - place them on ignore.

The other option is to click the yield sign at the bottom of the corresponding post and report it to Pete and Mmm to review/action/delete/whatever.

Engaging these people and hoping to have a decent discussion or exchange of opinions is great and how it should work. However, if it is obvious it just isn't going to happen and they are here for the simple enjoyment of getting people worked up and not taking responsibility for what they say - report them and ignore them. 99% of the posts they make they likely wouldn't make if their Real Name (verified by a photo ID or other method) was required for their posts. Perhaps that should be a requirement if they get too many reports against them.

Anywho, back on topic since this is sort of feeding in to throwing this off topic which is their primary goal.

[dankrutka]

In a nutshell...their acceptance will be commensurate locally--wherever--with how much they try to rub their lifestyle choices into other's faces whom they KNOW will be offended. A Parade can be something to be a silly drag queen exposition...or something more logical. The problem gay people face mostly is public behavior they do to outrage others. You can SAY that is not so...I know better. Been there...seen it all.

Would you quit "rubbing your strange lifestyle" of unnecessary italics and bold in my face! It's nauseating and I HATE EVERYONE THAT IMPROPERLY USES ITALICS AND BOLD! Lol.

[dankrutka]

I have to agree with lake hefner breeze on the attack. He holds an opinion, while not shared by many of us, is shared by a huge number of people. Stating an honest opinion shouldn't result in personal name calling.

Is it okay to personally attack someone that advocates a belief system that invalidates others?

While I don't like attacks as a way of addressing injustice, I think my question is a fair one?

[lake hefner breeze]

Everyone on this site has the right to post their opinion, when they overstep and start attacking people that is where it goes bad. When their words start to take the path of pure trolling through and do nothing to benefit the discussion, that is just as bad. We've started to see (and have seen) a trend or history of some people and how they choose to interact to where it is mostly inflammatory or out to get a reaction from people. They've delivered zero quality content to the community here and have instead chosen to take on antagonistic role in their time here.

What can we do? If you don't agree with them or prefer not to deal with any negative trolling - place them on ignore.

The other option is to click the yield sign at the bottom of the corresponding post and report it to Pete and Mmm to review/action/delete/whatever.

Engaging these people and hoping to have a decent discussion or exchange of opinions is great and how it should work. However, if it is obvious it just isn't going to happen and they are here for the simple enjoyment of getting people worked up and not taking responsibility for what they say - report them and ignore them. 99% of the posts they make they likely wouldn't make if their Real Name (verified by a photo ID or other method) was required for their posts. Perhaps that should be a requirement if they get too many reports against them.

Anywho, back on topic since this is sort of feeding in to throwing this off topic which is their primary goal.

So another post from venture79 about how this site should be managed.

Sounds like you are campaigning to be a moderator.

Last time I checked you aren't one, so why should anyone care who you think is a troll and and who isn't.

It's only your opinion.

Just stick to talking about the weather.

[Thunder]

So another post from venture79 about how this site should be managed.

Sounds like you are campaigning to be a moderator.

Last time I checked you aren't one, so why should anyone care who you think is a troll and and who isn't.

It's only your opinion.

Just stick to talking about the weather.

Venture is only helping out here. You do not know him. He's a great guy. There is nowhere in his post campaigning for Moderator. He don't have to only talk about the weather on here.

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Is anyone planning on going to the parade? Send me a PM, maybe I will tag along, but I'm not going by myself. And what is the theme (if any) for this year's parade?

[ljbab728]

So another post from venture79 about how this site should be managed.

Sounds like you are campaigning to be a moderator.

Last time I checked you aren't one, so why should anyone care who you think is a troll and and who isn't.

It's only your opinion.

Just stick to talking about the weather.

Yes venture79 gave his opinion as you have. Don't be telling him what subjects to stick to. He can comment on anything he wants as can you as long as you don't personally attacking anyone or start being abusive.

[lake hefner breeze]

Fortunately your beliefs and the truth are mutually exclusive. LOL

My beliefs and the truth are one in the same.

Oh crap, does this mean you are going to start stalking me like you do HewenttoJared about global warming?!

[HOT ROD]

lake hefner, I respect your beliefs

but what you said IS offensive to many people and therefore you should expect some sort of a response in opposition to what you said. Please try to read completely before you respond, thanks. ...

If you look up the definition of bigot or racist, you will see that people on this forum actually did properly call you out - because you made such a negative and generalistic statement without any evidence, any facts, or any specific scenario regarding OKC's minority population and the 'behaviour' that you so detest. It is the same as if someone called out all 'mexicans' as illegals (which MANY people do in OK) - it's bigoted, that's a fact and if you truly believe what you wrote then you should accept the definition of your behavior.

For completeness, also look up the definition of 'troll' or 'trolling', and you might also find that you were properly called out again. So, you are offended when people call out your statement and behavior but you feel it is your right to call out a segment of the population based on your 'beliefs'. ....

Now, the truth is - we as a society should be accepting of people no matter their color, political beliefs, sexual orientation, race, creed, and economic status. Isn't that in our constitution and rules of ethics/society? For you to come out with your generalistic and condescending claim may be exercising your right to free speech but it is offensive and bigoted because you offer no evidence to support your claim as truth/fact.

And you probably didn't know that gay people do use this site - and would likely take offense to such a statement, as would a wide variety of people who are more accepting or socially outgoing.

Again, Im not trying to start a fight or agree with one side or another, Im just stating the obvious that you are not seeing - and then you're using free speach to justify your 'right' to make your offensive statement. On the contrary, I (personally) have my own beliefs about the subject - but you'd be hard pressed to know what they really are because I try to respect everyone and demand the same respect back ...

A better, more constructive, and non-offensive statement of your beliefs on the subject might read as "I'll be honest that I'm not at all familiar with the true 'gay' lifestyle or the population as a whole, but from what I assume of the behavior that might go on or have been told/rumor'd - I detest it as immoral and think we should not have a parade to celebrate that."

You voice your opinion, but it is not offensive to others and is actually quite factual (that you really are using an assumption to support you claim).

[Martin]

looking back, i probably shouldn't have trusted that this thread would stay on track. but anywho... this is thread is about an event on the weekend of the 24th. it is not a political discussion regarding homosexuality. if you guys want to discuss that, then make a thread in politics. let's get back to topic. -M

[Roadhawg]

Lake Hefner Breeze, it is not so much that the LGBT's are "proud" as such for being what they sexually are, it is more that they are proud for WHOEVER it is that they are, or something like that. I understand where you are coming from and I'm not going to ridicule you for your beliefs and/or perceptions, and you may never change them. But maybe you will. I would suppose that thoughtful consideration, without rejecting the LGBT positions out of hand, would be seen by the group as a welcome thing, even if you come not to change your mind and/or beliefs. It is not an easy issue for many straight people. But, since you have so many fellow citizens would like to embrace you and you them, it might be worth considering ... just to think and consider. Some of those people may be your friends already, but you might not know what they have not made public.

I'm supposing that you are a Christian but if not you almost certainly accept the "Golden Rule" which derives from Christian teachings, and that would be something like this: One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.

Well said

[jmarkross]

Anyone on here wanna take this gay boy to the pride party? :-O

You sure as hell should not have a problem here!

"LOL"