Panasonic Battery Plant

[G.Walker]

its for RareEarth, will be in Stillwater. Good for Oklahoma, but seems like Governor Stitt is a proponent of bringing more business to Tulsa, OSU, and Stillwater.

[sgt. pepper]

its for RareEarth, will be in Stillwater. Good for Oklahoma, but seems like Governor Stitt is a proponent of bringing more business to Tulsa, OSU, and Stillwater.

He is a Tulsa business man isn't he?

[progressiveboy]

its for RareEarth, will be in Stillwater. Good for Oklahoma, but seems like Governor Stitt is a proponent of bringing more business to Tulsa, OSU, and Stillwater.

Perhaps the OKC Chamber of Commerce along with the mayor of OKC can step up to the plate and recruit companies to OKC area. I do know sometimes for incentives it must go through the State of Oklahoma. Is the OKC Chamber of Commerce very proactive in luring companies?

[Bunty]

its for RareEarth, will be in Stillwater. Good for Oklahoma, but seems like Governor Stitt is a proponent of bringing more business to Tulsa, OSU, and Stillwater.

But a manufacturing concern that is only expected to hire 100 workers is no big deal. Surely long gone are the days when Stillwater could attract manufacturing that ultimately employed over 1000 people.

[HangryHippo]

Oklahoma is offering less than Kansas in incentives AND has legislators saying they aren’t interested in the “woke nonsense” that company would bring. I’d probably choose Kansas too.

Pretty damn disgusting IMO.

[progressiveboy]

Also, Kansas has more people with Bachelor's Degree (33%) versus Oklahoma (26.1%). The information can be found on Google. To me this says Kansas values education more than Oklahoma. Plus, the sad part is Oklahoma has about 1 million more in population. Just my opinion, but my perception is Kansas values education more than Oklahoma and it shows Kansas has more ambition and drive with much less population. Still hoping Oklahoma wins on this economic front. It remains to be seen??

[BoulderSooner]

Also, Kansas has more people with Bachelor's Degree (33%) versus Oklahoma (26.1%). The information can be found on Google. To me this says Kansas values education more than Oklahoma. Plus, the sad part is Oklahoma has about 1 million more in population. Just my opinion, but my perception is Kansas values education more than Oklahoma and it shows Kansas has more ambition and drive with much less population. Still hoping Oklahoma wins on this economic front. It remains to be seen??

your post means that Oklahoma has more college grads then Kansas ...

[king183]

your post means that Oklahoma has more college grads then Kansas ...

Not sure what you’re reading in his post, but it clearly indicates Kansas has more college graduates THAN Oklahoma, which, by the way, happens to be true.

[gopokes88]

Not sure what you’re reading in his post, but it clearly indicates Kansas has more college graduates THAN Oklahoma, which, by the way, happens to be true.

explain how 33% of 2.94MM is bigger than 26% of 3.96MM. I'll wait.

[BoulderSooner]

explain how 33% of 2.94MM is bigger than 26% of 3.96MM. I'll wait.

26% of 3.96 is over a million people

33% of 2.94 is under a million people ..


quick math says that

over a million is more than under a million ..

[BoulderSooner]

explain how 33% of 2.94MM is bigger than 26% of 3.96MM. I'll wait.

2.9 is the Kansas pop .396 is the oklahoma pop

[king183]

explain how 33% of 2.94MM is bigger than 26% of 3.96MM. I'll wait.

You’re right. I apologize for misreading BoulderSooner: I was taking PB’s post to refer to proportion of college graduates rather than absolute numbers and applied only that context to BS’s post. I did that because most debates of this type focus on proportion of college graduates rather than absolute number.

Anyway, my point (opinion) stands that the number of college graduates will not be a determining factor whether we get the Panasonic plant over Kansas.

[gopokes88]

Also, Kansas has more people with Bachelor's Degree (33%) versus Oklahoma (26.1%). The information can be found on Google. To me this says Kansas values education more than Oklahoma. Plus, the sad part is Oklahoma has about 1 million more in population. Just my opinion, but my perception is Kansas values education more than Oklahoma and it shows Kansas has more ambition and drive with much less population. Still hoping Oklahoma wins on this economic front. It remains to be seen??

goodness gracious what world do you live in. i mean holy sh*t that's a galaxy brain objectively false take.

[king183]

If Oklahoma loses the Panasonic plant, it will be because Panasonic has decided it can get more money in incentives from Kansas. Further, with the Canoo deal looking increasingly tenuous, that might have changed Panasonic’s calculus on being near potential EV partners. We will not lose Panasonic because we have fewer college graduates than Kansas. Additionally, if you don’t think Kansas has crazy legislators who say the exact same crap the OK legislators cited above say, you aren’t paying attention. We aren’t going to lose because a no name, irrelevant legislator (or six) say something stupid.

[shavethewhales]

^With such a large population difference, I don't think you can infer as much with those percentages. Plus you have to think about how much of OK's pop is rural vs. Kansas. Barely anyone lives in rural Kansas but OK still has a lot.

We've certainly given them plenty of reasons not to come here, but we do have the population, education base, and transport facilities to make the plant work. Kansas government can be pretty bone headed and far right too. The decision will come down to some sort of internal measurement of the value of the respective incentive plans + site infrastructure.

[FighttheGoodFight]

26% of 3960000 = 0.26 × 3960000 = 1029600
33% of 2940000 = 0.33 × 2940000 = 970200

But also shouldn't we be comparing population over 25 since children can't attain a degree?

That puts us at a pop of 686k and 26% with degree. Kansas is at 652k with 34%.

Census data on the subject:
https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...dePreview=true

[progressiveboy]

Here is a link regarding Kansas which includes college degree. According this this link below, Kansas has 43.1% college educated people. Even higher than I previous saw via Google. Overall Kansas is ranked #23 in education.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas

[Swake]

Here is a link regarding Kansas which includes college degree. According this this link below, Kansas has 43.1% college educated people. Even higher than I previous saw via Google. Overall Kansas is ranked #23 in education.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas

I would trust the census more than a listicle.

Kansas 33.9% vs Oklahoma 26.1%

Kansas statistically as a state is very skewed because it's largest metro area has its core city in another state. Kansas has just under half the population of the KC Metro and has most of the wealthy suburbs while Missouri gets the relatively poorer core city and the more middle class suburbs. Makes Kansas look much better than it really is.

[G.Walker]

It depends on how you look at it. Rural Oklahoma pulls down those numbers for Oklahoma. There is a higher percentage of people with college degrees in the Oklahoma City & Tulsa metro areas. With the plant possibly being located near Tulsa, I don't think finding educated employees is the issue.

[mugofbeer]

Maybe l missed something specific to this plant but except for limited positions, what need is there for a college degree to manufacture battaries? I would think all of the design and engineering is done elsewhere?

[gopokes88]

There isn't. Just the same handful of posters being relentlessly negative due to their bias'

[jccouger]

Looks like Kansas was chosen

[Pete]

Panasonic to build EV battery plant for Tesla in U.S. state of Kansas

[Plutonic Panda]

Of course

[HangryHippo]

lol. Top 10!