Streets/traffic/roads

[scottk]

That's it, let's all ride horses everywhere we go.

I mean, sitting on 2nd Street/Edmond Road and stopping at every single light between Bryant and Kelly...and you see the person on the bike breeze on by on the sidewalk.

Edmond traffic feels like the opening scene to "Office Space."

[scottk]

The OKC metro sprawls. That's nothing new. Land is plenty so we build out and not up.

That being said, I've expressed on here before the futility of it. People move out from the city to get away from it all. Strip centers and fast food is built to these outliers so as to be more convenient. Before you know it, what you were trying to get away from has followed you. So people move out even further and it follows them again. Meanwhile the new area of 20 years ago gets left and run down.

I think you would enjoy this in regards to suburbia expansion:

[oklip955]

While I do not condone anyone assaulting you or your property in that manner you have described. Oklahoma City and many other cities in the United States have been sprawling for the better part of a century. You do not have a guaranteed right to not have other property owners develop their land as they see fit. If you want your own private oasis away from it all you kind of have to pay for it (buy up surrounding land) or move out further into to the actual rural areas of the state. It is not convenient and I understand your frustration, however we live in the world that is and not the world that we want it to be.

I am on 10 ac. Sure I should have tried to buy a few more ac. but there is no way I could afford to buy up the whole east side. At the time I bought my land and built I was told that it would only grow to me say 5 ac lots and would remain rural. Now what is an older retired lady subpost to do??? Moving takes alot of work and effort and not easy as you get older. Just try to find a horse property with fruit trees that produce and less then 1 mill is not going to happen unless you are way way out from everything.

[traxx]

I think you would enjoy this in regards to suburbia expansion:

Some decent points and info in the video. However, I feel the points could've had better impact had he not used up time to take little potshots at US citizens.

MuRicAnS tWo dUM too Do mEtRiC.

Yeah, because dividing by ten is so difficult. It smacks of inferiority.

[Jake]

Some decent points and info in the video. However, I feel the points could've had better impact had he not used up time to take little potshots at US citizens.

MuRicAnS tWo dUM too Do mEtRiC.

Yeah, because dividing by ten is so difficult. It smacks of inferiority.

I've always found that the best way to reason with people and make them reconsider their stance on things is to mock and belittle their intelligence.

[traxx]

I've always found that the best way to reason with people and make them reconsider their stance on things is to mock and belittle their intelligence.

He also took whatever little opportunities he had to promote Canada (his home) over the US. He said Canadian cities are better with finances than US cities. When your entire country has a smaller population than the state of California, it makes a difference. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

[CaptDave]

Still, the math doesn't lie. Pretty sure the same analysis of OKC and its sprawling 600+ square miles would be pretty ugly for such a "fiscally responsible" place.

[traxx]

Sitting at a major intersection yesterday at about 11:45am. Heavy traffic waiting at the lights in every which direction. Except the turn lane. Guess who got the green. We all sat for a long time as no one went through the intersection while the turn light was green.

[fortpatches]

He also took whatever little opportunities he had to promote Canada (his home) over the US. He said Canadian cities are better with finances than US cities. When your entire country has a smaller population than the state of California, it makes a difference. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

While he is Canadian, he doesn't live in Canada. He lives somewhere in Europe. Also, population makes a difference in absolute numbers, not in relative numbers. They have a lower population, which means that across their population density is much lower. They have about 1/8 our population density. Considering the whole video was about how density is managed effectively, it seems that you're right, it isn't an apples to apples comparison since Canada would necessarily have a much more difficult density to manage than the US. The fact that they can manage when they are in a much more difficult position is even more striking now. Thanks for making me look that up!

[mugofbeer]

Here is an interesting tidbit of information since you bring up Canada's population and density, 60% of Canadians live south of Seattle. 70% live south of the 49th parallel which is the US/Canadian border from Minnesota to the west.

[scottk]

Our crew was out in Arcadia/Pop's on Saturday night. Made the drive in on 2nd Street/Route 66.

Surprisingly, flowed right through all the stoplights at I-35 and 2nd. So it IS Possible to have efficient traffic flow.

Any progress made however was swiftly stopped, as we hit every single light from Coltrane to Kelly/Edmond Road. Maybe the most frustrating part were the secondary lights at the lesser intersections. While we were waiting on the green to go east/west on 2nd at the main intersections (Bryant, Blvd, Broadway), the lights further down were giving green to east/west, but with no cars, as we were all queued at the preceding intersection. Sure enough, the lights changed to red as we drove up from the previous intersection. This would be the secondary stoplights at Vista Ln, Target/Walmart Market, Bauman/Starbucks, Littler/Sprouts, and Fretz.

[traxx]

Our crew was out in Arcadia/Pop's on Saturday night. Made the drive in on 2nd Street/Route 66.

Surprisingly, flowed right through all the stoplights at I-35 and 2nd. So it IS Possible to have efficient traffic flow.

Any progress made however was swiftly stopped, as we hit every single light from Coltrane to Kelly/Edmond Road. Maybe the most frustrating part were the secondary lights at the lesser intersections. While we were waiting on the green to go east/west on 2nd at the main intersections (Bryant, Blvd, Broadway), the lights further down were giving green to east/west, but with no cars, as we were all queued at the preceding intersection. Sure enough, the lights changed to red as we drove up from the previous intersection. This would be the secondary stoplights at Vista Ln, Target/Walmart Market, Bauman/Starbucks, Littler/Sprouts, and Fretz.

Yeah, it's so frustrating to be waiting at a red and see the green just down the road. Then when yours turns green, a few seconds later the next one turns red.

I spoke with someone last week who told me that they were going 70mph through Edmond just to try to make a light after being frustrated at hitting every red light. I have a hunch this happens quite often. Maybe not quite 70mph but enough to be breaking the speed limit by 10 or 15mph. Edmond thinks all the red lights helps to stop speeding but it increases speeding and road rage.

[DowntownMan]

Two new lights going in. temporary wire hanging for now but permanent later when road reconstruction occurs.
Sooner and danforth
school st and danforth (town square neighborhood and Francis Tuttle entrance)

[Bill Robertson]

I'm sure I've complained about this before but I get so frustrated when I'm going the speed limit on Council at 6 AM and lights turn red when there's no one at the cross streets. WHY!!!!!!

[traxx]

Traveling north on Kelly toward Covell today. The 3 way stoplight by Lowe's turns red as I approach it. Southbound is still green. Why? What purpose did this serve? Was it just to make us northbound vehicles mad? Is there some City of Edmond employee crouching behind the control box snickering his Snidely Whiplash laugh?

[MagzOK]

Traveling north on Kelly toward Covell today. The 3 way stoplight by Lowe's turns red as I approach it. Southbound is still green. Why? What purpose did this serve? Was it just to make us northbound vehicles mad? Is there some City of Edmond employee crouching behind the control box snickering his Snidely Whiplash laugh?

I've hit that many times just like that.

[_Cramer_]

I've hit that many times just like that.

I have experienced this as well!
However, my ultimate "favorite" is on Covell at the light by Upton Market/Cheyenne Middle School there. Driving at 5 a.m. to Mitch Park YMCA and there is NO ONE out there but the stop light turns red.

[traxx]

Driving west on 2nd last night about 10pm. We were sitting at the at the front at the stoplight at 2nd and Bryant (I was the passenger). Light turned green, we went straight and it was turning yellow before we cleared the intersection.

[traxx]

I don't know what the daily traffic throughput is in Edmond, so maybe this wouldn't work but it should at least be researched and explored.

Edmond wants to be one of those most bestest livable burbs but the traffic light situation makes people hate driving in Edmond. That kinda lowers the quality of life in Edmond. People don't want to travel two miles down the road because they'll encounter 16 lights round trip (wish that was hyperbole).

[traxx]

It doesn't appear to matter what streets I drive in Edmond. No matter where I go, I'm sure to encounter closed lanes. Sometimes multiple closed lanes on one trip depending upon what route I take. Edmond only gives the appearance of 4 lane roads.

[roci28]

When on earth are they going to do something about the potholes on the I40 bridges going over I44?? I thought they were supposed to be repaving from Meridian east this spring??

[The]

When on earth are they going to do something about the potholes on the I40 bridges going over I44?? I thought they were supposed to be repaving from Meridian east this spring??

It’s a miserable, embarrassing stretch of road that causes so many issues.

[Bellaboo]

When on earth are they going to do something about the potholes on the I40 bridges going over I44?? I thought they were supposed to be repaving from Meridian east this spring??

I believe that bridge will be replaced next year, which is why they haven't put any money in it at this time.

[BoulderSooner]

I believe that bridge will be replaced next year, which is why they haven't put any money in it at this time.

schedule to be in FFY 2024 ... so that project should go to bid very soon ..

[traxx]

Seeing as how that bridge is not in Edmond, not sure it makes much difference here.