also what are the chances of a walmart in the area?
When are they going to widen Waterloo? It is already too congested for the businesses and commuters there now.
Looks like they are starting to move dirt for something else. Maybe the Braum’s?
Surprised there isn't one hotel proposed here yet
The lot on the far west end (not in the pictured plan) on Sooner Rd. owned by an older couple has been sold to this developer. It appears some interior demolition has happened, but the house and out buildings should be demolished in the next few weeks.
Property records no longer show the private LLC (Starbucks) as owners of lot 1A. It appears to be back to the same owners as the other empty lots.
After some initial development momentum, surprised to see this change. Maybe the upcoming interchange redevelopment has something to do with it?
Two things I noticed when I drove by the other morning:
1. Holy crap! This is going to be a huge development!?!
2. Holy crap! IT is SO congested NOW?! What's it going to be like when the development is finished?
Aren't there plans to rework that intersection with I-35?
It's a relic of days gone by when that was in the middle of the country.
I believe that with the I-35 intersection rework, that waterloo will be expanded to Sooner. Haven't heard any of any other expansion but Waterloo has always been a tough stretch to get anything done because it is owned/cared for by two counties and neither want to pay for it by themselves.
My understanding is the counties cannot do anything or make plans until ODOT figures out what they are doing with Waterloo and I 35 and have a plan and schedule. That is when they make make plans to do improvements to Waterloo rd.
For the time being, more homes are being built in the area so much more traffic on a poor road.
There is something being built on the plot where the Starbucks was originally plotted on the map above. However later in the thread it's posted that Starbucks no longer was going in there. Drove by there a little while ago and there is a building with a drive thru being constructed, however there is no sign indicating what it will be.
Also yes, ODOT is supposed to be installing one of those diamond interchanges there at 35 and Waterloo. It needs it bad. They could do an immediate fix by working the signal lights. For example now, if you're exiting NB I35 to turn west on Waterloo when you get a green to turn left you proceed under the interstate only to be met by a red light. This creates complete gridlock. What needs to happen is that second light needs to turn green along with the NB exit for those turning to completely clear the interchange once they turn onto Waterloo. Then do this all the way around for all directions of travel. All of east/west Waterloo gets green lights, but then you get people wanting to turn onto the onramps but have to wait for a break in oncoming traffic, but it's gridlocked and nobody moves. Then all the on/off-ramp traffic gets greens and it results in the same because they end up stopping at the other on/off-ramp on the other side. By changing to what I've posted, everyone just goes through. I've emailed this to ODOT but nothing ever changes. It's a lot to write hahaha.
And actually, this needs to happen at many interchanges across the metro -- especially along the Kilpatrick at May, Penn, and Western. Once you get a green you should be able to proceed forward and actually clear the interchange not stop at the second light on the other side of the bridge. Complete chaotic gridlock at rush hour. I'm looking at you, May Ave......
I've also heard, though completely unconfirmed, that there is indeed talks going on between Oklahoma and Logan counties and the city of Edmond on widening Waterloo from 35 all the way to at least Kelly, with Oak Tree interest as well for access for future national tournaments they're wanting to bring in. Apparently ACOG and ODOT are already commingling with the federales for federal funds to pay perhaps an 80/20 split or even better with both counties and Edmond chipping in on the non-federal percentage.
Some newish images from here: https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/I-35...-OK/24518722/:
Great shot Pete. That new interchange can't come soon enough, along with a much more intensive repaving or, dare I hope, widening of Waterloo.
I would assume that having the 2027 US Senior Open back up at Oak Tree National will expedite this interchange project
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