Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[jerrywall]

I didn't see if anyone had posted this..

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories...g-in-oklahoma/

Looks like we finally have some more information on the negative counts from the private labs...

"The 6,000 new reports bring the state’s total to more than 7,400 negative results. When counting the positive tests, more than 8,600 tests were reported to have been completed as of Sunday."

[AP]

That says that all the data we've been scrutinizing on this board is useless. We still don't have the complete picture of positives or negatives. The demographics are skewed because of selective testing. We won't be able to identify trends until they have corrected the data collection piece of this. It's a little frustrating that private labs just decided not to report negatives.

[OKCretro]

I didn't see if anyone had posted this..

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories...g-in-oklahoma/

Looks like we finally have some more information on the negative counts from the private labs...

"The 6,000 new reports bring the state’s total to more than 7,400 negative results. When counting the positive tests, more than 8,600 tests were reported to have been completed as of Sunday."

Would that mean we aren't in last place in testing our residents?

[Pete]

That says that all the data we've been scrutinizing on this board is useless. We still don't have the complete picture of positives or negatives. The demographics are skewed because of selective testing. We won't be able to identify trends until they have corrected the data collection piece of this. It's a little frustrating that private labs just decided not to report negatives.

We do have a complete picture of positive results from tests that have been administered.

[AP]

Right, but that doesn't include people who weren't tested because they were not immunocompromised or in the correct age bracket. So not really a complete picture of positives.

[AP]

Would that mean we aren't in last place in testing our residents?

Assuming other states aren't having the same issues with their private labs not reporting negatives...

[Pete]

Right, but that doesn't include people who weren't tested because they were not immunocompromised or in the correct age bracket. So not really a complete picture of positives.

This is true worldwide.

The only way to get a 100% complete picture is to test everyone on earth every day.


I've said all along the most important numbers concern those hospitalized, as taxing our healthcare system is the primary concern. And those totals are going to be pretty close to accurate.

[jerrywall]

Would that mean we aren't in last place in testing our residents?

I've never figured out why that stat matters anyways. Since no one is testing their healthy population, this ranking just reflects which states have a higher rate of folks who need testing. (which isn't to say our testing wasn't behind and limited - just that the ranking folks have been focused on seems to be misleading).

[jn1780]

Regarding hospital resources, we are trending below this module. So that's promising.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/

[Rover]

I've never figured out why that stat matters anyways. Since no one is testing their healthy population, this ranking just reflects which states have a higher rate of folks who need testing. (which isn't to say our testing wasn't behind and limited - just that the ranking folks have been focused on seems to be misleading).

Generally, the more you can test for positives, the more you can quarantine carriers. If testing can be wide spread, you can find asymptomatic carriers and get them out from the general population and limit their spreading of the virus. Only testing for absolutely positive cases is trying to catch the horse after it's left the barn.

[jerrywall]

Generally, the more you can test for positives, the more you can quarantine carriers. If testing can be wide spread, you can find asymptomatic carriers and get them out from the general population and limit their spreading of the virus. Only testing for absolutely positive cases is trying to catch the horse after it's left the barn.

I agree with that intent, but is anyone really just testing the general healthy public, or only those with symptoms or who have been exposed to someone with symptoms? If this is the case, it just makes those ranking irellevant. The hospitalizations and deaths is a much more relevant number. The testing per population #s will really only be relevant once folks are trying to do widespread testing. Or am I missing something?

[Laramie]

My major concern is the people who test negative; hope they don't become complacent.

The more information I read on this site and general info from the CDC, Presidential Press Conferences (Fauci, Birx) and graphs; this is one of the scariest things I've seen in my lifetime.

Coronavirus in Oklahoma: 1,327 confirmed cases, 51 deaths; April 6, 2020

Wish everyone and their families, relatives and friends, the best.

[Snowman]

This is true worldwide.

The only way to get a 100% complete picture is to test everyone on earth every day.


I've said all along the most important numbers concern those hospitalized, as taxing our healthcare system is the primary concern. And those totals are going to be pretty close to accurate.

We were not even testing people to differentiate if you had either minor flu or minor covid-19, when I had one of the two a few weeks ago

[jn1780]

I agree with that intent, but is anyone really just testing the general healthy public, or only those with symptoms or who have been exposed to someone with symptoms? If this is the case, it just makes those ranking irellevant. The hospitalizations and deaths is a much more relevant number. The testing per population #s will really only be relevant once folks are trying to do widespread testing. Or am I missing something?

If we can get the 15 minute tests and antibody tests out there in large numbers. That would be a game changer. It takes like two days minimum to get test results back.

[Pete]

Numbers just updated for Monday.

[mkjeeves]

We were not even testing people to differentiate if you had either minor flu or minor covid-19, when I had one of the two a few weeks ago

Until a few days ago we weren’t even testing people with comorbid conditions who were know to have been exposed. You had to have both Covid 19 symptoms and comorbid issues.

[SoonerDave]

Numbers just updated for Monday.

Continues to show a very positive trend. Hopeful!

[OkiePoke]

I wonder if the weekends play a factor in it.

[jn1780]

I wonder if the weekends play a factor in it.

I can see that with test results. It would be sad, if there was a delay in hospitalizations because someones doctor office is closed for the weekend so they never get sent to hospital. The virus doesn't take a break.

[Teo9969]

Temperatures around the 25th through the 27th of March were higher. Super anecdotal, but that does fall in that 10-14 day window for incubation. Substantially more likely is that the stay at home effort in OKC really kicked up the week of the 23rd, and that being the driving factor here.

If we see an uptick in the next week or so, we could probably infer that outside temperature does have an effect (though you'd think the environment of most places that people are out and about in have more conducive temps to viral spread).

I think it's likely the effort for us to all shelter that the numbers in check for now.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

This is true worldwide.

The only way to get a 100% complete picture is to test everyone on earth every day.


I've said all along the most important numbers concern those hospitalized, as taxing our healthcare system is the primary concern. And those totals are going to be pretty close to accurate.

That is a key, and total hospital occupancy appears to be holding steady at around 4300 beds for all comers.
Totally anecdotal, but surgical colleagues are reporting that people are delaying coming to the hospital and as result they're seeing later stage disease. That's not good from a state morbidity/mortality standpoint. It's not just the people who have COVID 19 that we need to be worried about.

[Pete]

Continues to show a very positive trend. Hopeful!

Again, the numbers have typically slowed over the weekend and then picked up again during the week.

This might be a function of that trend; we'll see over the coming week.

[OkiePoke]

Temperatures around the 25th through the 27th of March were higher. Super anecdotal, but that does fall in that 10-14 day window for incubation. Substantially more likely is that the stay at home effort in OKC really kicked up the week of the 23rd, and that being the driving factor here.

If we see an uptick in the next week or so, we could probably infer that outside temperature does have an effect (though you'd think the environment of most places that people are out and about in have more conducive temps to viral spread).

I think it's likely the effort for us to all shelter that the numbers in check for now.

Do you have any sources that indicate a higher outside temperature prevents the virus from spreading?

This is from the CDC:
"Generally coronaviruses survive for shorter periods at higher temperatures and higher humidity than in cooler or dryer environments. However, we don’t have direct data for this virus, nor do we have direct data for a temperature-based cutoff for inactivation at this point. The necessary temperature would also be based on the materials of the surface, the environment, etc. Regardless of temperature please follow CDC’s guidance for cleaning and disinfection."

[FighttheGoodFight]

Did my three week grocery run today at Sams. Everyone was wearing masks and using good distance measures. Good to see!

[Teo9969]

Do you have any sources that indicate a higher outside temperature prevents the virus from spreading?

This is from the CDC:
"Generally coronaviruses survive for shorter periods at higher temperatures and higher humidity than in cooler or dryer environments. However, we don’t have direct data for this virus, nor do we have direct data for a temperature-based cutoff for inactivation at this point. The necessary temperature would also be based on the materials of the surface, the environment, etc. Regardless of temperature please follow CDC’s guidance for cleaning and disinfection."

No sources, just anecdotal.