Century Center

[Pete]

From https://twitter.com/TylerBHolmes:

[Pete]

^

Looks like those cross-braces are permanent.

[Bullbear]

I like the look of the cross braces actually.

[5alive]

The last time I was down there they were painting them white so I guess that's going to become an architectural element


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[CuatrodeMayo]

Very nice.

This project has been on my "nicely designed" list since the Butzer Gardner renderings. It hasn't disappointed me yet.

[ethansisson]

From Monday:

[5alive]

Just that little peek as to what-is-to-be gets me excited. What an incredible improvement this is going to be!

[metro]

I like the look of the cross braces actually.

The last time I was down there they were painting them white so I guess that's going to become an architectural element


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Fine by me, it's a nice visual interest element.

[Pete]

Couple from today from catch22:

[Pete]

From Will:

[soonerguru]

CVS corporate killed the deal -- not enough residences in a 1- and 3-mile radius.

CVS put one in on Campus Corner. What a great, walkable district that is. But are there really more households near that CVS in Norman? How did they sneak that one past corporate?

[kevinpate]

Campus Corner has a CVS? Did not realize that, but other than King Kopy and O'Connell's I am not down there much and I tend to use alleys to reach either.
Where is the CVS located.


on edit: a 1 and 3 mile radius ring around a center point of Asp and Boyd covers a lot of rooftops (but also includes a couple of other CVS stores).

[bchris02]

CVS put one in on Campus Corner. What a great, walkable district that is. But are there really more households near that CVS in Norman? How did they sneak that one past corporate?

My guess is that CVS corporate only considered current rooftops and not everything that is going up. If they re-ran their formula in two years, it will probably pass for downtown OKC.

[Teo9969]

CVS put one in on Campus Corner. What a great, walkable district that is. But are there really more households near that CVS in Norman? How did they sneak that one past corporate?

OU houses a ton of people.

I think the ultimate issue is that someone tried too early to get CVS downtown. In 2 years, I don't think it will be difficult at all, though the location will certainly be different. There's still relatively little housing downtown, but it is about to explode.

[Urbanized]

There are dense neighborhoods on three sides of Campus Corner, dense student housing on the south side of the campus, and tens of thousands living within a 2-3 mile radius. There is no comparison. Zero.

[Pete]

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Right.

I would bet the OU and OSU campuses offer by far the densest population concentrations in the state, both night (dorms/apartments) and day (workers/students).

[soonerguru]

Kevin,

The CVS is on Asp on the north side of Campus Corner where Sooner Textbooks used to be eons ago.

[catch22]

Kevin,

The CVS is on Asp on the north side of Campus Corner where Sooner Textbooks used to be eons ago.

I've never been really familiar with campus corner, until recently. I'm just never that deep into Norman.

It's a great area, to me it's the best urban environment in Oklahoma. Small streets, a ton of people, and a festive atmosphere.

[soonerguru]

I've never been really familiar with campus corner, until recently. I'm just never that deep into Norman.

It's a great area, to me it's the best urban environment in Oklahoma. Small streets, a ton of people, and a festive atmosphere.

Yes. It's really great. It was off the charts for game day. Super atmosphere. Norman is really one of the best college towns anywhere.

[Of Sound Mind]

It amazes me how threads get off topic so easily and can stray so far...

[Urbanized]

Have you previously participated on a message board?

[kevinpate]

It amazes me how threads get off topic so easily and can stray so far...

Threads are like driving downtown during Project 180 ... there are no straight lines from point A to point B

[BDP]

I seem to remembering hearing one time that 10k residents is kind of a magic number for retailers. I think DT will be there in two years. Personally, I don't want to see a big influx of national retailers. If the city is involved at all, I'd rather see it encourage more local retail that usually offers something more unique that is of more interest to visitors and those looking for an urban living experience.

However, I do think the only way DT gets a drug store of CVS or Walgreens size is for one of them to do it. You just don't see any new independent pharmacies any more. There are a lot better locations for them downtown than CC, imo. Deep Deuce would be a good one, as it could be accessible to a lot of hotel guests, locals, and kind of centrally located between St. Anthony's and the Med Center. I know those facilities have pharmacies, but I think a more full service drug store would draw from the medical complexes as well. Either way, I think it's only a matter of time now and I think both any drug store locating downtown and the Century Center will be better off if it was somewhere else.

[Teo9969]

The absolute best location for a Grocery store or Drug Store (Or better yet, BOTH) in downtown would be a new build on the NE corner of 5th and Robinson…It's a bit further for the Midtown crowd, but it's definitely between Midtown and Deep Deuce.

The nice thing about a restaurant going into the Century Center is that it's something that will bring-in people from all over the city to use the space. The problem with CVS/Grocery Store is that those are neighborhood specific things, and that corner of CC would no longer be a high profile destination for a multitude of people. Whether or not it gets more foot traffic is another question entirely, but foot traffic is not the goal, place-making is…That is too high-profile of a corner to not contribute to place-making. This is why I'm also a major advocate of a Patio here.

[BDP]

The absolute best location for a Grocery store or Drug Store (Or better yet, BOTH) in downtown would be a new build on the NE corner of 5th and Robinson…It's a bit further for the Midtown crowd, but it's definitely between Midtown and Deep Deuce.

The nice thing about a restaurant going into the Century Center is that it's something that will bring-in people from all over the city to use the space. The problem with CVS/Grocery Store is that those are neighborhood specific things, and that corner of CC would no longer be a high profile destination for a multitude of people. Whether or not it gets more foot traffic is another question entirely, but foot traffic is not the goal, place-making is…That is too high-profile of a corner to not contribute to place-making. This is why I'm also a major advocate of a Patio here.

Good thoughts. I agree about Robinson too. Robinson, especially with its role with the streetcar, is really going to be key to bridging the two main urban neighborhoods in the city. It will be a good corridor for merchants who provide "essentials" to consider.