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[Laramie]

Mark Daigneault addresses winning NBCA’s 2023-24 Coach of the Year award



Link: https://sports.yahoo.com/mark-daigne...ycsrp_catchall

[Laramie]

Breaking News: Arizona Coyotes to move to Salt Lake City after being sold to Utah Jazz owners.

Salt Lake City has a MSA population 1,267,864 with growth of 10,000 in three years moving to the NHL as well as having an NBA team that will share the same building--Delta Center.

What are the chances of this being a success?

[Snowman]

Breaking News: Arizona Coyotes to move to Salt Lake City after being sold to Utah Jazz owners.

Salt Lake City has a MSA population 1,267,864 with growth of 10,000 in three years moving to the NHL as well as having an NBA team that will share the same building--Delta Center.

What are the chances of this being a success?

This is now the 3rd sports team the guy has bought in around three years, so it is not exactly clear if he is highly interested in all three sports, or just thinks of sports teams as a good investment. Plus the Jazz being the longest of his purchases is not exactly inspiring, their payroll has dropped relative to the rest of the league every year he has owned them, and not exactly following text book rebuilding strategies either. Another potential issue is there are some claims that metros need around 1 million people per major sport team to support them well, so having NBA and NHL might be pushing it.

[Laramie]

Agree with you Snowman 100%.

The NBA and NHL seasons run concurrently. Just how many NBA fans will renew their season tickets vs. the initial appeal of the NHL to capture that market remains in question. Can the NHL and NBA co-exist in one of the smallest markets in the U.S. under the same ownership umbrella.

The minor league Utah Grizzlies recorded one of their best attendance years averaging 6,003 fans per game in West Valley City's 12,000-seat Maverik Center. IIRC the Grizzlies are in the ECHL same league with the Tulsa Oilers who averaged 7,475.

Minor league hockey attendance isn't the only gauge for predicting how a franchise might perform with an NHL level franchise. The MSA population, corporate sponsors, per capita income and facilities are among the the mix to be considered. Give SLC credit, they have a good base of corporate sponsors, will it be enough to support NHL and NBA.

[Dob Hooligan]

I think the NHL is the financially weakest of the "Big 4" North American sports leagues. And Phoenix has been a financial Black Hole for the league since the team move there 25 years ago. The NHL has taken it over at least once, IIRC. And I think this sale is really closer to the $200 million cash being split among the other owners, and assumption of operations and debt, rather than the $1.2 billion being tossed around in media stories. I think the NHL is pleased they found an exit strategy that leaves the chance for future expansion up to the locals in Phoenix and eliminates a constant financial concern. Plus, they have found an owner with legitimate deep pockets, deep family roots in the Utah market, and that market has shown to have a solid winter sports focus.

[BoulderSooner]

I think the NHL is the financially weakest of the "Big 4" North American sports leagues. And Phoenix has been a financial Black Hole for the league since the team move there 25 years ago. The NHL has taken it over at least once, IIRC. And I think this sale is really closer to the $200 million cash being split among the other owners, and assumption of operations and debt, rather than the $1.2 billion being tossed around in media stories. I think the NHL is pleased they found an exit strategy that leaves the chance for future expansion up to the locals in Phoenix and eliminates a constant financial concern. Plus, they have found an owner with legitimate deep pockets, deep family roots in the Utah market, and that market has shown to have a solid winter sports focus.

the owner in arizona got 1 billion to sell the team ..

if he gets his arena built in the next 5 years (which IMHO is very likely ) he gets a new team for the cost of 1 billion

[Laramie]

[okatty]

Those were two unbelievable games last night! Knicks score 8 points in 27 seconds to win and Murray hits the buzzer beater for Denver win. Heck of a double header.

[Bellaboo]

Those were two unbelievable games last night! Knicks score 8 points in 27 seconds to win and Murray hits the buzzer beater for Denver win. Heck of a double header.

The Lakers needed Cason Wallace to defend Murray.

[Laramie]

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2024 NBA Draft Lottery results, takeaways: Hawks win top pick in stunner, Wizards land No. 2 selection: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2...election/live/

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[Jersey Boss]

Former Laker great Jerry West, "The Logo", passed last night at the age of 86.
Great player and great mind for basketball.

[citywokchinesefood]

Former Laker great Jerry West passed last night at the age of 86.
Great player and great mind for basketball.

The extended Lakers and Buss family should be ashamed of how they treated him. He is one of the greatest NBA executives of all time and had one of the greatest eyes for talent the league has ever seen. The man is responsible for Kobe/Shaq, The Grit and Grind Grizzlies, assembling one of the greatest teams of all time in the mid 2010's warriors. If it wasn't for injuries he would have gotten the Clippers a championship a couple years ago.

[BoulderSooner]

The extended Lakers and Buss family should be ashamed of how they treated him. He is one of the greatest NBA executives of all time and had one of the greatest eyes for talent the league has ever seen. The man is responsible for Kobe/Shaq, The Grit and Grind Grizzlies, assembling one of the greatest teams of all time in the mid 2010's warriors. If it wasn't for injuries he would have gotten the Clippers a championship a couple years ago.

what are you talking about .. ?? he left because he wanted to ..

[citywokchinesefood]

what are you talking about .. ?? he left because he wanted to ..

"One disappointing thing [about my career] is that my relationship with the Lakers is horrible," West told The Athletic. "I still don't know why. And at the end of the day, when I look back, I say, 'Well, maybe I should have played somewhere else instead of with the Lakers, where someone would have at least appreciated how much you give, how much you cared.'" - Jerry West

He has on multiple occasions stated that the Buss family and the organization as a whole has treated him like an enemy since he left. They have treated one of the greatest parts of their organization like trash for over 20 years. Before he took the Clippers job he tried to go back to the Lakers when they were at their lowest.

[Dob Hooligan]

"One disappointing thing [about my career] is that my relationship with the Lakers is horrible," West told The Athletic. "I still don't know why. And at the end of the day, when I look back, I say, 'Well, maybe I should have played somewhere else instead of with the Lakers, where someone would have at least appreciated how much you give, how much you cared.'" - Jerry West

He has on multiple occasions stated that the Buss family and the organization as a whole has treated him like an enemy since he left. They have treated one of the greatest parts of their organization like trash for over 20 years. Before he took the Clippers job he tried to go back to the Lakers when they were at their lowest.

Personalities. No matter the money or fame, it comes down to getting along. I have had men who are incredibly talented and productive in our field. But they were a bad fit, left on bad terms and I won't bring them back.

[citywokchinesefood]

Personalities. No matter the money or fame, it comes down to getting along. I have had men who are incredibly talented and productive in our field. But they were a bad fit, left on bad terms and I won't bring them back.

The organization has been run into the ground under Jeanie, Pelinka, and Rambis. They absolutely needed Jerry and it is obvious to anyone that has actually followed basketball closely the last few decades.

[Jersey Boss]

For being in an NBA city there appears to be lttle interest in the playoffs in this forum.

[FighttheGoodFight]

For being in an NBA city there appears to be lttle interest in the playoffs in this forum.

The series is pretty boring. Celtics have this done in 4 (or 5 if anyone on the Mavs can shoot).

[Urbanized]

I mean, I’m watching, but not invested in either team. Pulling for the Celts, but only because I hope Luka loses the rest of his games. Until the end of time.

[Jersey Boss]

The series is pretty boring. Celtics have this done in 4 (or 5 if anyone on the Mavs can shoot).

Yeah that might be the case but...
Look at the posts since May 1. There has been many series outside of the finals. 2 posts about the draft. There seems little interest outside of the local team

[Dob Hooligan]

The organization has been run into the ground under Jeanie, Pelinka, and Rambis. They absolutely needed Jerry and it is obvious to anyone that has actually followed basketball closely the last few decades.

I have followed the NBA (and ABA for that matter) very closely since 1970. Love the Lakers and have read so many of the books. Bought and rear Mr. West's book. Even Jerry West said he wasn't an easy guy to do business with, or be around. In the last 20 years he left the Lakers, Grizzlies and Warriors. Read the Ruth's Criss Steakhouse story in his own autobiography and you will understand how even teams that need him might not bring him back.

Jerry West was a great basketball man and I am a huge fan.

[Jersey Boss]

I have followed the NBA (and ABA for that matter) very closely since 1970. Love the Lakers and have read so many of the books. Bought and rear Mr. West's book. Even Jerry West said he wasn't an easy guy to do business with, or be around. In the last 20 years he left the Lakers, Grizzlies and Warriors. Read the Ruth's Criss Steakhouse story in his own autobiography and you will understand how even teams that need him might not bring him back.

Jerry West was a great basketball man and I am a huge fan.

Wow, someone in my generation.
I remember the arguements of who was better, Clyde or West. Clyde got the rings but Jerry has gone down as the only finals MVP on a losing team.
I will admit to being a lifelong Knicks fan. I have been waiting way too long

[Dob Hooligan]

Wow, someone in my generation.
I remember the arguements of who was better, Clyde or West. Clyde got the rings but Jerry has gone down as the only finals MVP on a losing team.
I will admit to being a lifelong Knicks fan. I have been waiting way too long

The Knicks are the team that needed Jerry West as the executive over the last 20 years or so? AKA the James Dolan era?

[Dob Hooligan]

Wow, someone in my generation.
I remember the arguements of who was better, Clyde or West. Clyde got the rings but Jerry has gone down as the only finals MVP on a losing team.
I will admit to being a lifelong Knicks fan. I have been waiting way too long

Clyde the Glide and Earl the Pearl. "When The Garden Was Eden" is a great documentary.