Oklahoma liquor laws

[FighttheGoodFight]

Clock is ticking on bill to revise Oklahoma alcohol laws | News OK

Looks like it gets read in afternoon session today?

[TheTravellers]

Here are some details about SJR68 and the back and forth it's going to go through, crazy...

The Thirsty Beagle: Legislative update: Action on SJR 68, SB 383 and SB 424

And here's a good post about how it would affect the number of wholesalers, etc.:

The Thirsty Beagle: Will SJR 68 increase alcohol prices?

Didn't realize what a good resource his blog was until someone here pointed it out (David, I think, so thanks)...

[bchris02]

It looks like it passed 61-30. I guess all that's needed now is Mary Fallin's stamp and it's on to the voters? Where does she stand on this bill?

[jerrywall]

It looks like it passed 61-30. I guess all that's needed now is Mary Fallin's stamp and it's on to the voters? Where does she stand on this bill?

I think it has to go back for the amendments to be voted on...

[Dustin]

I thought SJR68 wouldn't need voter approval, just the Governors signature..

[king183]

I thought SJR68 wouldn't need voter approval, just the Governors signature..

Nope. It requires vote of the people. Polls indicate it has massive support. But some legislators are earning their campaign donations from the liquor store owners by trying to slow it down.

[king183]

I think it has to go back for the amendments to be voted on...

The title was stricken, so it goes to conference committee for any last changes. Both houses will then vote on that version, with no additional changes possible.

[SouthsideSooner]

Nope. It requires vote of the people. Polls indicate it has massive support. But some legislators are earning their campaign donations from the liquor store owners by trying to slow it down.

Haha... that's just hilarious but since you're so knowledgeable about this, exactly which liquor store owners are we talking about? I'm sure the Walmart lobbyist who are driving this bus are trembling at the very thought...

[jerrywall]

Haha... that's just hilarious but since you're so knowledgeable about this, exactly which liquor store owners are we talking about? I'm sure the Walmart lobbyist who are driving this bus are trembling at the very thought...

^^ This. Funniest thing in the world. Any liquor store (of which there are maybe 5) with money to lobby, loves this bill. Especially since 2 of them have connections in the wholesaler side which would also benefit. The typical liquor store barely breaks even. The money getting flooded to Jolly and his ilk isn't from liquor retailers. It's from Wal-Mart, QuickTrip, and Budweiser.

[bradh]

^^ This. Funniest thing in the world. Any liquor store (of which there are maybe 5) with money to lobby, loves this bill. Especially since 2 of them have connections in the wholesaler side which would also benefit. The typical liquor store barely breaks even. The money getting flooded to Jolly and his ilk isn't from liquor retailers. It's from Wal-Mart, QuickTrip, and Budweiser.

Wait a minute, Budweiser? The same group who spent all that money on ads bashing Jolley? Now I'm thoroughly confused.

[jerrywall]

Wait a minute, Budweiser? The same group who spent all that money on ads bashing Jolley? Now I'm thoroughly confused.

Jolley changed the bill, giving in completely to Budweiser and giving them a great gift, and that's why the ads stopped. And now they support these bills.

[bradh]

Jolley changed the bill, giving in completely to Budweiser and giving them a great gift, and that's why the ads stopped. And now they support these bills.

I missed that part, sorry.

[FighttheGoodFight]

The title was stricken, so it goes to conference committee for any last changes. Both houses will then vote on that version, with no additional changes possible.

Thank you for the explanation. I thought title stricken and third reading meant it went back to committee again...

[bchris02]

Alcohol debate in Oklahoma turns testy after comment about Native Americans | KFOR.com

[HangryHippo]

That representative is a jackass. I mean damn, the amount of stupidity in the legislature is astounding.

[jerrywall]

As an Irishman, I'm offended that no one in the legislature seems concerned about our propensity to alcoholism... We process it differently too, it fuels our freckles.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Alcohol debate in Oklahoma turns testy after comment about Native Americans | KFOR.com

You what is also offensive? His website (Todd Russ, Oklahoma State House) Sheesh...

[Dustin]

Alcohol debate in Oklahoma turns testy after comment about Native Americans | KFOR.com

Even if it were true, it's a moot point. Alcoholics are going to get drunk no matter what, whether it be 3.2 beer or full strength beer. It's just a dumb thing to say, but are we really surprised?

[bchris02]

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[Swake]

You what is also offensive? His website (Todd Russ, Oklahoma State House) Sheesh...

Go figure, he's a Pentecostal minister.

[Urbanized]

A RACIST Pentecostal minister. Unbelievable. He should be censured. If that type of ignorance had been directed toward African Americans, for instance, it would be national news right now. It's just as bad that it is directed towards Native Americans; perhaps worse because it perpetuates a stereotype.

[bchris02]

Go figure, he's a Pentecostal minister.

He's a Dominionist and is behind some of the worst bills ever filed in the Oklahoma legislature. He would probably support a return to prohibition if it were possible.

This really goes to show that not all opposition to modern laws comes from special interests in the liquor industry. There is still a fundamentalist temperance movement alive and well in this state. All the liquor industry has to do is sponsor commercials about how modernization will destroy the moral fabric of Oklahoma and they will come out in droves to vote against it.

[BDP]

All the ________________ industry has to do is sponsor commercials about how _____________________ will destroy the moral fabric of Oklahoma and they will come out in droves to vote against it.

You can pretty much just fill in the blanks and you have the standard political game plan.

[TheTravellers]

A RACIST Pentecostal minister. Unbelievable. He should be censured. If that type of ignorance had been directed toward African Americans, for instance, it would be national news right now. It's just as bad that it is directed towards Native Americans; perhaps worse because it perpetuates a stereotype.

He did mention African Americans:

"Russ then suggested that the African American Caucus should also oppose the resolution because of alcohol-related problems."

We finally found an Oklahoma GOP lawmaker who cares about blacks and Native Americans? | The Lost Ogle

Completely disgusting a**hole, and I just let him know that via email.

[bradh]

So he only thinks Native Americans and African Americans can be alcoholics? As a white man I'm offended!