Will Rogers World Airport

[gopokes88]

Playing around checking airfare and not impress at all. Picked dates in Nov just compare and only compared with SWA. $55 cheaper to Chicago on SWA. $50 cheaper on Frontier to Orlando. $25 cheaper to Vegas on Frontier That is for one person. I sure if I added a bag SWA would be just has cheap if not cheaper to these locations. This is also not a "club fare" which would save you a little more but over all MEH.

Wait. Same thing happened with American in Stillwater and the fares dropped after a while.

[sbs]

Playing around checking airfare and not impress at all. Picked dates in Nov just compare and only compared with SWA. $55 cheaper to Chicago on SWA. $50 cheaper on Frontier to Orlando. $25 cheaper to Vegas on Frontier That is for one person. I sure if I added a bag SWA would be just has cheap if not cheaper to these locations. This is also not a "club fare" which would save you a little more but over all MEH.

Don't forget, SWA is going to terminate service to MDW from OKC. Airfares fluctuate daily. Give the market time to stabilize. Frontier is liable to undercut everyone.

[kukblue1]

Don't forget, SWA is going to terminate service to MDW from OKC. Airfares fluctuate daily. Give the market time to stabilize. Frontier is liable to undercut everyone.

Fingers crossed but their baggage fees are high. $35 for a carry-on seems high. Haven't really flown much in the past year.

[d-usa]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/18/news...ize/index.html

More info

[bradh]

I'd be more excited if it were not an Ala-Carte airline. they just aren't my Jam.. give me a price that includes my seat selection and preferable a Bag.

Who the hell offers that now for a base fare? No one, even the legacy carriers have stooped to the lowest common denominator unless you have status.

[sbs]

Fingers crossed but their baggage fees are high. $35 for a carry-on seems high. Haven't really flown much in the past year.

Yes $30-35 is high for a carry on but your first checked bag is only $25-30. This is in line with Delta, United, and American's checked baggage fee. When coupled with an extremely low fare, it can be a real money saver.

[catch22]

Also look for United to match or beat on price with Frontier on some markets. Scott Kirby plans to take Frontier to town with this latest announcement.

[bradh]

Also look for United to match or beat on price with Frontier on some markets. Scott Kirby plans to take Frontier to town with this latest announcement.

yeah I just read that, pretty bold statements. you're back at DEN right? what's the sentiment there?

[catch22]

yeah I just read that, pretty bold statements. you're back at DEN right? what's the sentiment there?

We love Oscar and Kirby and the employees are glad United has finally grown a backbone. Rolled over too many times giving away routes to other airlines.

[bradh]

Smisek was a schmuck. Granted my loyalty goes back to CO days but he was terrible

[catch22]

Smisek was a schmuck. Granted my loyalty goes back to CO days but he was terrible

No one from either side likes him (I'm from the CO side too). As part of his golden parachute he retained his unlimited flying privileges, I've heard he doesn't use them very often at all and he's changed his appearance so much (beard and hair color) that he can avoid being noticed most of the time. Of course his name is still on the manifest.

[bradh]

No one from either side likes him (I'm from the CO side too). As part of his golden parachute he retained his unlimited flying privileges, I've heard he doesn't use them very often at all and he's changed his appearance so much (beard and hair color) that he can avoid being noticed most of the time. Of course his name is still on the manifest.

wow that's bad

[catch22]

wow that's bad

The entire airline has a breath of fresh air now with the new management team. They treat us well and have the backbone to stand up to other airlines and even in a lot of cases Wall Street. Right now Wall Street is unhappy with the domestic capacity gains, but the long term benefit of growing domestic presence is huge even though it has a short term effect on yield. United literally has around 15 years of growth to catch up on. American and Delta both expanded domestic capacity over the last 15 years while United shrank. WS is unhappy UAL is playing the long game instead of cutting capacity to boost short term yield. Kirby has had the backbone to flat out tell WS they are wrong - that's very refreshing to the front line. OKC would still have United agents if Smisek left and Kirby came along earlier.

[bradh]

I think there was a saying on FlyerTalk back in the day of "don't United my Continental"

[damonsmuz]

Is Frontier going to be providing ramp and counter service for these flights or are they outsourcing?

[catch22]

Is Frontier going to be providing ramp and counter service for these flights or are they outsourcing?

It will be outsourced.

[OUman]

Possible new maintenance base at OKC by Skywest, pending an incentives package:

Source: OKC Talk

This would be big stuff if it passes no doubt, and Skywest is one of the better and more stable regionals out there.

[gopokes88]

It's a no brainer really

[catch22]

Hangar 84 LLC (former ARINC, now Field Aviation) modified and renewed their lease to allow for the expansion of that facility to the north. Not sure if they have active plans to build another hangar, or if they were just renewing their lease to allow for the expansion in the future.

[catch22]

The new SkyWest Maintenance Center will be located north of Atlantic Aviation and south of Field Aviation along Taxiway H1.

[Pete]

Looks like there is plenty of room for more of this sort of thing all along that east taxiway.

[catch22]

Looks like there is plenty of room for more of this sort of thing all along that east taxiway.

They are extending the east/west taxiway stubs (the ones dead ending as they approach the old Portland Ave.) to cross the old Portland Ave alignment, so there will be even more opportunities available in the eastern parcels.

[Pete]

This shows the general plan now that Portland has been shifted east:

[Zuplar]

Is this an updated map? I feel I haven't seen it before with the lariat landing stuff. Just curious if they decided to make changes since the other side of the highway has started to take off.

Also what do they mean by strategic reserve?

[Pete]

Yes, current as of this week.

I'm sure the strategic reserve is area they want to hold for future operations. They now have 100 acres they can market for aviation use to outside companies.