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  1. #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    I read Royce's stuff often. He's OK but a lot of what he writes is just for something to write. A team as good as the Thunder isn't going to invest what it would take to get a player like Thabeet for a "project".
    I'll put more stock into the opinions and conjecture Royce offers (based on his track record) that your "informed" analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Of Sound Mind View Post
    I'll put more stock into the opinions and conjecture Royce offers (based on his track record) that your "informed" analysis.
    I never claimed to be informed. It's my opinion. Isn't that what forums are about?

  3. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    I read Royce's stuff often. He's OK but a lot of what he writes is just for something to write. A team as good as the Thunder isn't going to invest what it would take to get a player like Thabeet for a "project".
    It's becoming clear that you don't know much about the Thunder or the NBA. Thabeet is off his rookie contract, and will likely only be offered a minimum contract, or something very close to that. It's very low risk move for the Thunder if they see him as a player with potential. I doubt Thabeet ever amounts to much, but the Thunder might be willing to give it a shot to find a cheap big.

    Then again, I'm not sure I even understand what your last sentence means.

  4. #79

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    If Thabeet plays at all, it'll be in the last few minutes of a 20+ blowout. It's not like the Thunder are bringing him in to be a 35+ minute starter.

  5. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    I never claimed to be informed. It's my opinion. Isn't that what forums are about?
    Everyone has an opinion, rightfully so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KilgoreTrout View Post
    It's becoming clear that you don't know much about the Thunder or the NBA. Thabeet is off his rookie contract, and will likely only be offered a minimum contract, or something very close to that. It's very low risk move for the Thunder if they see him as a player with potential. I doubt Thabeet ever amounts to much, but the Thunder might be willing to give it a shot to find a cheap big.

    Then again, I'm not sure I even understand what your last sentence means.
    What I really meant was, at the point where the Thunder are in their roster, yhey aren't in a position to go out on too many limbs for "projects". You don't see many championship teams in any pro sport spending much time on "projects". And yes, I know there are exceptions to that rule, but it's not the rule. Also, one spot will have to be opened for PJIII. Probably Mohammed. Which other player that the Thunder have been developing to fit in with the team would you have the Thunder drop for a Thabeet who has a career 2.2 points per game average.

  7. #82

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    Big men develop slowly. We have a nice record of player development. Lazar Haywood and Derek Fisher could potentially leave. We've got Maynor coming back so we've got three point guards. I don't think giving Thabeet a chance is such a crazy idea.

  8. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    100% disagree with you .. based on the past knowledge of the thunder organization ..... Ibaka is the guy they keep first harden second ..

    that being said i think they keep both
    While I want to keep them both, we have better talent in the pipeline to replace Ibaka than we do Harden

  9. #84

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    Thabeet was a high draft pick and I've never heard of him putting up gawdy numbers. He's either in the wrong system or he just can't get it done in the NBA. ****warning, this is strictly my sole opinion and is not subject to ridicule since this is a forum. Thanks**** lol

  10. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    What I really meant was, at the point where the Thunder are in their roster, yhey aren't in a position to go out on too many limbs for "projects". You don't see many championship teams in any pro sport spending much time on "projects". And yes, I know there are exceptions to that rule, but it's not the rule. Also, one spot will have to be opened for PJIII. Probably Mohammed. Which other player that the Thunder have been developing to fit in with the team would you have the Thunder drop for a Thabeet who has a career 2.2 points per game average.

    we have 13 roster spots locked up .. we are going to add 1 maybe 2 guys (we might only carry 14 players) .... the 14th guy on just about every NBA roster is a project ...

    Mohammed is not coming back

    Quote Originally Posted by betts View Post
    Big men develop slowly. We have a nice record of player development. Lazar Haywood and Derek Fisher could potentially leave. We've got Maynor coming back so we've got three point guards. I don't think giving Thabeet a chance is such a crazy idea.

    Haywood is coming back unless we trade him he has a fully guaranteed contract next season. Fisher is almost 100% gone

  11. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    I never claimed to be informed. It's my opinion. Isn't that what forums are about?
    I agree. But should opinions be given equal weight if one is based on some sort of informed or evidentiary foundation while the alternate opinion is proffered without any supportable rationale?

    Your statement — or opinion, as you described it — was declarative, as if you had a qualified, reasonable basis to support your supposition; at the same time, you were criticizing a writer who actually has a solid reputation for credibility and accuracy. My expressed opinion was that I would give (significantly) more weight and value to the proven Royce to someone who's offering dubitable opinions as if they were informed analysis. It's my opinion. Isn't that what forums are about?

    It always amazes me to watch unqualified people second-guess those that know what they are talking about and know what they are doing as if these second-guessers could do it better. But that's just my opinion.

  12. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    we have 13 roster spots locked up .. we are going to add 1 maybe 2 guys (we might only carry 14 players) .... the 14th guy on just about every NBA roster is a project ...

    Mohammed is not coming back




    Haywood is coming back unless we trade him he has a fully guaranteed contract next season. Fisher is almost 100% gone
    Looks like Fisher may be going to the Bulls.

  13. #88

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    Bulls, heat, mavs are teams I heard that are interested in Fisher

  14. #89

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    Is Royal Ivey coming back ?

  15. #90

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    Fisher, Nazr, and Ivey all could be gone. "Projects" are the only thing the Thunder can afford at this point. They have to find cheap value. That's why they're doing this. It makes perfect sense.

  16. #91

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    OKC's name also appears to be in the mix for Devin Ebanks and Roger Mason, according to Chris Broussard and Royce Young.

  17. #92

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    +1 for Roger Mason.

  18. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    The "source" that says OKC is looking at Thabeet is probably just about as accurate as the "source" that said OKC was going to trade Hardin for the #2 draft pick. Mark my words Thabeet is not coming to the Thunder.
    Looks like the source knows best. Thabeet = 2 year deal on the cheap.

    I'm marking your words......You don't know what you're talking about !

    Reported at 880,000 first year.

  19. #94

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    For any NBA player that might step foot on the court $880,000 is cheap

  20. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    For any NBA player that might step foot on the court $880,000 is cheap
    Yep. That's the minimum for a player of his experience, and a savings over Nazr.

  21. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
    Looks like the source knows best. Thabeet = 2 year deal on the cheap.

    I'm marking your words......You don't know what you're talking about !

    Reported at 880,000 first year.
    Presti must have seen something in him

    Also saw that Nash is heading to the Lakers...Kicks them up a notch unfortunately

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