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    Agreed about the good AG. I had several experiences with Edmonson and ALL were bad. He was IMHO Hitler/Mussolini/Ghengis Kahn all rolled into one. He had a massive Messianic complex too. In his own office, by his own handpicked staff he was derisively referred to as Little Napolean.

  2. #77

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    If only the current AG had a Messianic complex.... then he might actually do something involving protecting and defending the Constitution of the State of Oklahoma.

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    I take it that readers have noted the differences between the Oklahoman article and the Gazette article. They are substantial.

    Also noteworthy: the Gazette, and not the Oklahoman, was proactive in the matter. The Gazette is steadily showing itself as the superior source for city political news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Loudenback View Post
    I take it that readers have noted the differences between the Oklahoman article and the Gazette article. They are substantial.

    Also noteworthy: the Gazette, and not the Oklahoman, was proactive in the matter. The Gazette is steadily showing itself as the superior source for city political news.
    Yes, I agree with you, Doug. It's especially true when it's more than just what happened when and where. The Gazette is far superior with going deeper into issues, activities around the shoe, etc. Good, investigative reporting that we rarely see from The Oklahoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangGT View Post
    Agreed about the good AG. I had several experiences with Edmonson and ALL were bad. He was IMHO Hitler/Mussolini/Ghengis Kahn all rolled into one. He had a massive Messianic complex too. In his own office, by his own handpicked staff he was derisively referred to as Little Napolean.
    While I don't have any experience with him I have a hard time seeing anyone coming close to being Hitler/Mussolini/Ghengis Kahn all rolled into one.

  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Loudenback View Post
    I take it that readers have noted the differences between the Oklahoman article and the Gazette article. They are substantial.

    Also noteworthy: the Gazette, and not the Oklahoman, was proactive in the matter. The Gazette is steadily showing itself as the superior source for city political news.
    Good point, Doug, but the real question is: When is the Oklahoman Going to Come Clean About its Own Involvement in the Elections?

    You would have to have graduated from the University of Phoenix School of Journalism to believe that the Oklahoman has displayed any ethics in this matter. In fact, it is blatantly unethical and worthy of the "Worst Newspaper in America" moniker over this single issue.

    All indications are that the Oklahoman played a hand in supporting -- and in all likelihood, materially supporting -- the Momentum group. Yet, they do not disclose this to readers. This is a major unethical move.

    Who here actually believes the Oklahoman was not involved with Momentum?

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    There is virtually no such thing as unbiased journalism. So, I'm not sure we can call their behavior unethical. The DOK is a business, and rather, we're naive if we expect impartiality on the part of our news media.

  8. #83

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    Exactly when was it that "Newspapers" DIDN'T "[butter up] the hand that feeds them"?
    (And I mean going all the way back to Colonial, Pre-Revolutionary, times)

  9. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by betts View Post
    There is virtually no such thing as unbiased journalism. So, I'm not sure we can call their behavior unethical. The DOK is a business, and rather, we're naive if we expect impartiality on the part of our news media.
    Betts, you're missing the point. Reputable newspapers disclose their business interests in news articles related to the subject at hand. I didn't say they have to be completely impartial or unbiased. I simply suggested that they are likely concealing involvement in the Momentum group, which is something readers should be informed.

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    We can all moan and groan about this issue ad infinitum into the future. Until and unless another case hits SCOTUS and they rule differently it is the law of the law. Complaining about it is pointless and a waste of time. Learn how to deal with it and peal back the layers of the onion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangGT View Post
    We can all moan and groan about this issue ad infinitum into the future. Until and unless another case hits SCOTUS and they rule differently it is the law of the law. Complaining about it is pointless and a waste of time. Learn how to deal with it and peal back the layers of the onion.
    The trouble is that the SCOTUS ruling did give us protections, namely, that political donations shouldn't be anonymous. The Oklahoma AG's office shut down the Ethics Commission when they were asked to rule on this issue. This deprives the people of Oklahoma of the protections afforded to them by the Constitution.

  12. #87

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    True but there is nothing any of us have any reasonable change of doing to change it.

  13. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangGT View Post
    True but there is nothing any of us have any reasonable change of doing to change it.
    At this point, voting for a different AG would seem to be the best option.

  14. #89

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    Agree but years away. And even a new AG might not change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangGT View Post
    Agree but years away. And even a new AG might not change anything.
    Yeah, if he actually decided to enforce the law as Citizens United lays out, it'd very likely change something. At the very least, the Ethics Comm'n's work shouldn't have been put on ice.

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