Health Sciences Center

[metro]

Call it false all you want, but as I stated I copied it from DOKC's website. You should take your beef up with them if it bothers you, you'd probably get farther. My guess is that their numbers are more reliable than yours and a more trusted source of information. I'm personally underwhelmed at DOKC though.

[Kerry]

If you go to www.okcchamber.com and use their GIS system you can find all the data you want.

Within 1/2 mile of Corporate Tower there are 15,393 employees. That baically goes from I-40 on the south to NW 7th on the north and from Shartel on the west to Walnut Ave on the east. If you bump it out to 1 mile from Corporate Tower it goes up to about 49,000 employees.

Within a 3/4 miles of 901 N Lincoln there are 10,350 employees. This includes all of the HSC employees and even some downtown employees.

[HOT ROD]

something about those numbers don't seem right. I would think the 49,000 employees would be within the 1/2 mile of Corporate tower (aka, the CBD).

[Laramie]

Outstanding pics Doug,

I pass through that area two-three times a month and they are really showing a lot of progress in getting these structures ready.

Just maybe they will move more toward the St. Anthony complex area and development will adjourn these areas; however, the land is inexpensive moving down 8th street west toward Douglass High School.

[metro]

something about those numbers don't seem right. I would think the 49,000 employees would be within the 1/2 mile of Corporate tower (aka, the CBD).

If you consider Devon has less than 3,000 employees working downtown, I have a hard time believing the numbers are that high.

[Urban Pioneer]

http://newsok.com/gaylord-family-gif...o/651094095001

[HOT ROD]

does this mean it will be called "Gaylord Family Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation". (joking)

Im happy they are helping out.

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/gaylord-family-gif...o/651094095001

I'm not sure what this was about but the link says "unable to locate video".

[adaniel]

Try this...

http://newsok.com/gaylord-family-gif...o/651064689001

[silvergrove]

All I know is that OUHSC doles out $716,452,025.59 in gross payroll alone, money that is pumped through the state and businesses around here

[G.Walker]

Saw bid today for $63M OU Biomedical & Translational Research Center, to be located at HSC, anybody know about this?

[Spartan]

Call it false all you want, but as I stated I copied it from DOKC's website. You should take your beef up with them if it bothers you, you'd probably get farther. My guess is that their numbers are more reliable than yours and a more trusted source of information. I'm personally underwhelmed at DOKC though.

I think I came across this factual discrepancy before also, and I determined that DTOKC has bad/inflated numbers.

[G.Walker]

Project News & Notes:

July 28, 2011 Planning/Approval As of 7/28/11, this project has been included in the university’s list of upcoming capital improvement projects. This project is considered a high priority project and is Phase III of the Stanton L. Young Biomedical Research Center.

July 28, 2011 Financial Information As of 7/28/11, university officials are seeking funding for this project.

[G.Walker]

Also saw another bid for $32M office building 150,000sqft, looks like the HSC is about to start their next wave of construction, good deal, can't wait to see renderings.

[Pete]

This project involves the construction of approximately 150,000 gross square feet for the third phase of the Stanton L. Young Biomedical Research Center. The building will be dedicated to biomedical research, cancer, and genetics research. The facility will house research laboratories, and research and building support spaces. The estimated total project cost is $63,000,000

You know things are really cranking along at the HSC and in OKC in general when you have two projects totaling $100 million in construction and it barely gets noticed.

[G.Walker]

It seems to me OU is pretty secretive about its projects, kinda like Chesapeake, they just do it, no long waiting and planning, just pay and build, lol. I guess you can do that when you have a lot of money! My wife works at the HSC, and I pick her up everyday from work, its like its own little city out there, with all the mid/high-rises going up, and with the proposed 8 story Embassy Suites, and street car route going directly through HSC, will make that area even more dynamic.

Too bad I-235 provides a barrier between Deep Deuce and HSC, it would have been cool to see the day when Deep Deuce/Triangle Development bled over into HSC, it would have felt like one big urban area, like:

Downtown>Deep Deuce>HSC instead of Downtown>Deep Deuce>I-235>HSC

but I am sure the street car route will help with the connection...and do you think they should expand/upgrade Harrison Ave with pedestrian connections?

[benman]

Tons of work going on at HSC with tons of students and workers at HSC. Where do all these people live?
Seems to me there is a major housing shortage down there... Well theres lots of housing, but no decent apartments, houses, 4-plexes, or anything.

Correct me if my image of the area is wrong.

[adaniel]

Tons of work going on at HSC with tons of students and workers at HSC. Where do all these people live?
Seems to me there is a major housing shortage down there... Well theres lots of housing, but no decent apartments, houses, 4-plexes, or anything.

Correct me if my image of the area is wrong.

You are not too far off.

About half the people that live in my building in Midtown are somehow affiliated with OUHSC. When I was looking for my place I made the mistake of trying to locate a condo or apartment right before school started. It wasn't uncommon to find a place posted on Craiglist, call an hour after it was posted, and then it was already leased up. Coming from the burbs this was way different than what I was used to.

I would say the plurality of people living in Jefferson Park, Midtown, and even Deep Deuce and the Lincoln at Central Park work at OUHSC. Quite a few commute in from Norman or Edmond, but given high gas prices the opportunity is there for more lower priced rentals and condos.

[Spartan]

Tons of work going on at HSC with tons of students and workers at HSC. Where do all these people live?
Seems to me there is a major housing shortage down there... Well theres lots of housing, but no decent apartments, houses, 4-plexes, or anything.

Correct me if my image of the area is wrong.

There is a small student housing project on Stonewall and then a boulevard named Lincoln that provides great access to Edmond. I think if we could connect this area more to downtown, obviously that would be great. We all know this is a potential gold mine for downtown residents. It's just that right now, OUHSC is a suburban sprawly mess of big buildings and big parking lots and all of its workers live in Edmond. That's just the way it is. State employees and state buildings, I guess.

[okyeah]

Tons of work going on at HSC with tons of students and workers at HSC. Where do all these people live?
Seems to me there is a major housing shortage down there... Well theres lots of housing, but no decent apartments, houses, 4-plexes, or anything.

Correct me if my image of the area is wrong.

A lot of OU medical and dentistry students live at the Lincoln apts. A
Lots also live in houses in Edmond. Only a few live in Deep Deuce or downtown at Park Harvey. It makes a sense, because rent at the Lincoln is cheap. Also, i find that most students think the surrounding area, including midtown, is "ghetto"

[betts]

Actually, many of the students and residents live around campus, in Deep Deuce, the Legacy. One or two live in Block 42. Lots of faculty live in Heritage Hills and Mesta Park, as well as Edgemere. I heard a professor just bought a house in the Hill. I'm the lone Brownstone resident who works there although my former neighbor worked at the HSC but has moved to Edgemere. I don't consider the HSC a sprawly mess. If you know what's where, it actually makes a fair amount of sense. Every parking lot will eventually be a building or parking garage. The Health Sciences Center, compared to what it looked like when we moved here, is pretty impressive. And, if you've ever been around any of the bigger medical complexes on the east coast, they look shabby and old compared to it. President Boren had a plan to build every new building in Sooner gothic and that got shot down by the powers that be there so they're sticking with a more contemporary style and lighter brick. I was just inside the new cancer center today and it was very impressive.

[Pete]

Lots more HSC workers and students will be living in the central core if a streetcar line is established there.

They employ and enroll all types but by and large, their population is younger, more affluent and almost certainly more progressive than the general population. Really a good fit for possible downtown residents, and we need lots more.

[BG918]

I'd say midtown and Deep Deuce stand to gain the most from continued OUHSC and biomedical/research expansion east of 235. It would be nice to see more urban apartment infill around NE 10 & 235, and more of a plan from OU to develop the NE 10 corridor through the hospital. A city-funded streetscape would go a long way as well, all the way down 10th from St. Anthony through midtown to OUHSC.

[Spartan]

I don't consider the HSC a sprawly mess. If you know what's where, it actually makes a fair amount of sense. Every parking lot will eventually be a building or parking garage.

This is what's impressive betts, is that this thing can be massive indeed. Will it ever look like the aerial of the Texas Medical Center? Probably not, but isn't far from a smaller version of that kind of effect right now, either. The thing about the streets through the HSC is that, in my personal opinion for what it's worth, the perimeter streets actually are decent corridors, lined with respectable buildings, landscaping, and architecture. The streets inside the center however are a mass, and are mostly fronted by surface parking, loading bays, and ambulance entrances--to be expected with hospitals, indeed.

One thing that was weird though is the new OMRF tower. It doesn't touch a single piece of frontage, built in the middle of that block, hidden behind their fugly 80s-style main building. The new tower is really awesome, as well. Fully LEED accredited. It's a shame it isn't showcased prominently. Just to get a view of it you have to go around the block and snake through a few connecting parking lots, if I remember correctly (when I was last snapping construction update pics).

[lasomeday]

I totally agree on the OMRF tower, it could be a centerpiece for the HSC. That building is so awesome! The rest of the buildings in 10 years will be thought of just like the 80s style buildings.