panhandlers!

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Easy Girl:...There are so many of them tht work for one person...Who then gives them a small portion of the monies collected....On the corner of Reno and Eastern one time a guy had a sign said "why Lie" I need a cigarette and a beer....I stopped said "Really?" he said yes...I told him to tear up the sign and get off the street and I'd go get him a beer and a pack of cigarettes. He did and I did...six pack and a cigarettes.....One of the other guys started begging for a beer and the guy told him to get his boss to buy him one....Maybe I was wrong but, He got off the street for that part of time....We did some work with the Church one time and the big boss was really upset with the workers.....Yes some of them work for another guy..... and he challenged us about what we were doing.....Police are always close enough......But it's not going to change...In Las Vegas, they have to have a permit to panhandle.....How does that work?

As said earlier, OKC requires a permit to legally panhandle as well....

[bretthexum]

Hey! How many of you have been approached by black guys wanting some
change? Here's the clincher, how many of you have had the "racist" card
thrown in your face if you refuse?

Here's what I do and it works every time. When anyone approaches me,
whether at a gas station or on the street in Bricktown, I always ask them if
they have $20 they can give me. You should see the looks on their faces.
It also nips the "racist" card in the bud. I have turned the tables on a few
black guys, it's always black guys and not gals, and played the "racist" card
against them.

It's a riot to see them try to squirm out of it.

Messing with panhandlers/homeless people is a good way to get hurt or worse. A lot of those people are mentally ill.

[Prunepicker]

Here's another trick I've learned.

How many of you have been approached by someone who says they're from
Lawton and they need money for a serpentine belt or a water pump? I'll bet
I've heard those stories 20 times. By the way, in Tulsa they say they're
from Bethany. LOL!

At any rate, they always need $32 dollars and 12 cents, or something like
that to make it sound real.

The last guy to pull that stunt on me got a taste of reality. I asked him if
he was going to install the serpentine belt, himself? He said yes and that it
was an easy job. This guy said he had a Yukon. Have you ever tried to
put a serpentine belt on a Yukon, or any late model GMC truck? You ain't
gonna do it without the tools and unless you're a competent mechanic,
which he said he wasn't.

Pay attention, they're almost always from Lawton and the kids are asleep in
the truck.


This thread is killing me!

[Thunder]

I don't doubt the fact they refused work. I see where you are coming from. But I really find it hard to believe that these people are making hundreds a day sitting on a corner.

As a Sacker and knowing how I get tips ranging from $20 to $50 each 4 hours day, I can easily see how these people out on the streets making a few hundreds each day. They stand out there for like 8 to 10 hours and considering the traffic (thousands of vehicles) passing them, they have a greater chance at getting so much for basically lil to no work.

Do what I do (and I learned this from the other Sackers), scan the people, just as I scan the customers. I try my best to remember the customers, their tip history, and the feeling of how likely they are to tip or not. The same way as everyone driving by the people, keep notes on them and monitor their activities will probably give you an idea if they're scammers or seriously need help.

[bretthexum]

As a Sacker and knowing how I get tips ranging from $20 to $50 each 4 hours day, I can easily see how these people out on the streets making a few hundreds each day. They stand out there for like 8 to 10 hours and considering the traffic (thousands of vehicles) passing them, they have a greater chance at getting so much for basically lil to no work.

Do what I do (and I learned this from the other Sackers), scan the people, just as I scan the customers. I try my best to remember the customers, their tip history, and the feeling of how likely they are to tip or not. The same way as everyone driving by the people, keep notes on them and monitor their activities will probably give you an idea if they're scammers or seriously need help.

Sorry, must be another Oklahoma/south thing. Sacker? Is that like a grocery bagger? LOL sorry...

[Prunepicker]

Messing with panhandlers/homeless people is a good way to get hurt or
worse. A lot of those people are mentally ill.

I don't mess with them. I ask them in the most sincere way I can muster.
They always walk away. These guys are shrewd. However, I have turned the
"racist" card on a few. They can't get away fast enough.

It's great entertainment. The best part is that they are beaten to the punch
and don't know what to do.

[PennyQuilts]

Sorry, must be another Oklahoma/south thing. Sacker? Is that like a grocery bagger? LOL sorry...

Yup.

[Prunepicker]

Yup.

I thought all sackers were called sackers.

Everywhere I've been, California, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Texas,
North Carolina and about 30 other states, they've all been called sackers.

This is a first for me.

[bretthexum]

It's not a sack. It's a BAAAG!

[Karried]

I was in the grocery business in CA for over 13 years.. I started as a Bagger at age 16 and then the official name turned to Courtesy Clerk.

I actually have never ever heard of the term 'sacker' used in California (or anywhere else for that matter).

[Prunepicker]

It's not a sack. It's a BAAAG!

Man! I'd almost call you a Yankee but they call'em sackers, too.

Where are ya'll from? Canada? Brazil? Kenya?

Are you one of those whacko's who stirs up trouble?

[Prunepicker]

I was in the grocery business in CA for over 13 years. I started as a Bagger
at age 16 and then the official name turned to Courtesy Clerk.

I actually have never ever heard of the term 'sacker' used in California (or
anywhere else for that matter).

Really? I'm a genuine prunepicker and that's where I learned the term
"sacker", but you have to go back to the '50s.

I guess things have changed.

I don't mind change. I just don't like being there when it happens.

[MadMonk]

I was in the grocery business in CA for over 13 years.. I started as a Bagger at age 16 and then the official name turned to Courtesy Clerk.

LOL, I haven't heard the term Courtesy Clerk in years. I was one for Safeway for a while in high school. I never really got many tips though. The biggest exception was when the man and woman who owned Trust House Jewelers would come in. They'd come in separate cars and do their shopping. They were both really nice people and always tipped well. The Courtesy Clerks would argue over who got to bag their groceries that week.

And it's a bag.

[okyeah]

Here's a report on panhandeling and homeless campsites in OKC. I saw a video in one of my classes about homeless camps in Austin, and wondered where some of the ones in OKC exist.

[Prunepicker]

The biggest exception was when the man and woman who owned Trust
House Jewelers would come in.

That would have been Frick and Frack. Do you remember the late night show
they sponsored? I quit watching commercials about that time, but I
remember Frick and Frack and their "Trust House Jewlers" spots. One of
their jewelers was a friend of mine.

Later it became, Floyd Brown and Daughter. They always had their "Rolls"
parked at that mall at 63rd and May. Was it the French Market Mall?

Wasn't there a theater there? I know Bianca's was upstairs. It was a very
cool jazz club. Very NYC and the musicians were outstanding.

[solitude]

Just checking in on OKCTalk and see that some of the same old people who live in comfort get a kick out of making fun of the uncomfortable. And some do it with such two-faced hypocrisy; sweet as honey on one side - cold as ice on the other. I don't miss the judgmental Oklahomans who claim so often to be such wonderful "Christian people." I don't really think it matters if some of the panhandlers are scammers since there are scammers from Wall Street to your local OCURA, etc. I can just look at the faces of those people on the corners and know they've led a tough life. They are people and the why isn't so important to me. Their life is hardly an easy one. As for their "choosing" their lives, haven't you Christian folk heard, "There but the grace of God go I?"

[Prunepicker]

Just checking in on OKCTalk and see that some of the same old people who
live in comfort get a kick out of making fun of the uncomfortable...

I have the same sentiments about leftists, too. You'd think that they'd get a
grip! Thanx for the reality check.

[solitude]

I have the same sentiments about leftists, too. You'd think that they'd get a
grip! Thanx for the reality check.

I read a post a couple of weeks ago from someone who obviously knows you personally that implied you are a pretty wealthy man. Just what is it you did to achieve your wealth and give you the anger at what I guess you consider "the little people?" (With apologies to Leona Helmsley.)

Reminder to anyone reading this thread - Prunepicker is on record as stating he wishes Alan Keyes (! YIKES !) was our president. That explains so many of his comments here at the forum. He's welcome to his views, as I am mine, but it's fair to remind people of things he has said here. It really does explain a lot. Even in this very thread.

[Prunepicker]

I read a post a couple of weeks ago from someone who obviously knows
you personally that implied you are a pretty wealthy man. Just what is it
you did to achieve your wealth and give you the anger at what I guess you
consider "the little people?" (With apologies to Leona Helmsley.)

Reminder to anyone reading this thread - Prunepicker is on record as
stating he wishes Alan Keyes (YIKES !) was our president. That explains so
many of your comments here at this forum. Your welcome to your views, as
I am mine, but it's fair to remind people of things you've said here. It really
does explain a lot. Even in this very thread.

Wanting Alan Keyes as President PROVES that I'm not a racist. That's
something that leftists can't stand. Most likely it's because they are the
true racists, leftists that is. I simply want whatever is in the best interest
of our country. Alan Keyes is the best man for President. BO stinks.

I'd like to see that post, about me being wealthy. I think you're lying. I
have no clue as to who made such a statement. I'm a professional
musician, formerly a science teacher and an optical physicist. I work from
hand to mouth, that means I don't have a consistent income. I perform
classical, jazz, R&B, contemporary Christian, and anything that will bring
income to my household. I do studio work and and arranging (that means
orchestration and instrumentation), too. I know you've heard me playing, I'm
on national commercials, videos and other venues, but I'm going to remain
anon...

I may have taught your kid(s) science. I don't know. I was a Mr. Science
type of teacher for about 10 or 12 schools and some home schoolers.
Those home schoolers were absolutely brilliant!

Anger? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not angry about
anything. Not even the people who have done me wrong.

Are you angry? I'll say yes. Why? Because you're a leftist.

[Thunder]

They're not bags and clearly doesn't look like bags. The technical word I've always known is paper sacks or sacks for short, so yes, Sacker is the proper term.

No need to discuss it tho, was only using the job position compared to Panhandlers as to the amount of traffic each job positions face each day.

[GWB]

Just checking in on OKCTalk and see that some of the same old people who live in comfort get a kick out of making fun of the uncomfortable. And some do it with such two-faced hypocrisy; sweet as honey on one side - cold as ice on the other. I don't miss the judgmental Oklahomans who claim so often to be such wonderful "Christian people." I don't really think it matters if some of the panhandlers are scammers since there are scammers from Wall Street to your local OCURA, etc. I can just look at the faces of those people on the corners and know they've led a tough life. They are people and the why isn't so important to me. Their life is hardly an easy one. As for their "choosing" their lives, haven't you Christian folk heard, "There but the grace of God go I?"

I don't think anyone misses you either. By the way, how's our global traveling, uppity, Christian bashing, socialist doing lately?

[solitude]

I don't think anyone misses you either. By the way, how's our global traveling, uppity, Christian bashing, socialist doing lately?

?????? What was that all about?

[solitude]

I'd like to see that post, about me being wealthy. I think you're lying. I have no clue as to who made such a statement.

I owe you an apology! I was thinking of another poster, the guy that worked for TG&Y. I wasn't lying, I just got you confused with another.

[PennyQuilts]

I was in the grocery business in CA for over 13 years.. I started as a Bagger at age 16 and then the official name turned to Courtesy Clerk.

I actually have never ever heard of the term 'sacker' used in California (or anywhere else for that matter).

I was married to a grocery store guy in OKC for nearly 25 years. A couple of different grocery stores. Sackers. Never heard them called anywhere else. Must be a regional thing. Never heard them called a bagger. Back east, they don't HAVE sackers/baggers so I don't know what they'd call them.

[BailJumper]

Here's what I do and it works every time. When anyone approaches me,
whether at a gas station or on the street in Bricktown, I always ask them if
they have $20 they can give me. You should see the looks on their faces.

Wow, do you also ask them if they have a car and a house - and when they say "no" do you laugh and jiggle your keys in front of them?

Yeah, you showed them.